Japanese third-party support for Xenon launch...and beyond ???

bloke

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Or will there be any? So far we have rumors on

Ridge Racer new game
Castlevania new game
Panzer Dragoon Saga II
Soul Calibur III
Mist Walker RPG(s)

anything else?
 
bloke said:
Or will there be any? So far we have rumors on

Ridge Racer new game
Castlevania new game
Panzer Dragoon Saga II
Soul Calibur III
Mist Walker RPG(s)

anything else?

I didn't know that Castlevania was rumored for xenon. Somehow I doubt that CV will hit it.
 
Team Ninja of course.
I don't remember seeing these rumors about Ridge Racers and Castlevania btw. The only game in your list I've heard more than simple rumors about is Soul Calibur 3.
 
There are rumors of a Xenon Castlevania and PDS II?

There was talk about an Artoon RPG, and I would think that From Software will have something.
 
i would expect xenon to have a healthier list of japanese titles, but i'm not expecting anything grand.

team ninja will be cranking out solid titles (doa4, ninja gaiden, code chronus, doavb2, etc)

will from software continue making games for MS's platform?
 
The rumors for the RR game was for the Cel Damage to be making it, so would it even fall in line with this list? Its much like the same situation that RRPSP and RRDS are in.
 
If Xenon gets better japanese support I can't see it losing to PS3. I mean xbox is starting to outsell PS2 in the US with virtually NO japanese support. (aside from Tecmo) Very impressive indeed.

Sony better hope for bad Japanese support for xenon.
 
For Japanese Xenon support, I'm not expecting a much bigger response than Xbox had.

They'll have strong Tecmo support. That's about it. I'm sure Sega, Capcom, Konami, and Namco will produce games on the machine, but they'll most likely be ports and multi-platform releases. Nothing major.

The wealth of Playstation is the Japanese support. The wealth of Xbox is Western support. The Microsoft console(s), though sharing many games with the others, cater to a different audience.
 
for reference. Ridge Racer will not be at the xenon launch, or anywhere near the system for atleast a year after it comes out.

i know for a fact that the game has been in development since July, but not for xenon, or any current gen systems.
 
Vgamer said:
I didnt know there was rumors of a Panzer Saga 2 for Xbox 2!
The Panzer Dragoon Orta team has been said to be working on a RPG for Xbox, since then shifted to a Xbox 2 title. Nothing more than a rumor.
 
SolidSnakex said:
The rumors for the RR game was for the Cel Damage to be making it, so would it even fall in line with this list? Its much like the same situation that RRPSP and RRDS are in.

The Cel damage team? Pseudo interactive?

The ones that made those XNA Saleen S7 demos "from their upcoming game"?

Or was someone hoping Ridge Racer would look like the XNA demos?
 
DopeyFish said:
The Cel damage team? Pseudo interactive?

The ones that made those XNA Saleen S7 demos "from their upcoming game"?

Or was someone hoping Ridge Racer would look like the XNA demos?
beats me, but like i stated before, it's not gonna happen. i never heard any rumors abouit the cel damage team making anything with the license, so i suppose it's possible (although i don't see namco handing that one out to them of all developers).

but yeah, no Ridge Racer on xenon for atleast the first year of its life. atleast not from Namco.
 
That XNA demo was shit. Not relevant, I know. Just saying.

Any MS employees reading the forum today must be feeling extremely justified in not revealing anything yet, given how much discussion is happening anyway.
 
What is with high hopes when adressing Xbox(2) rumours?

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I just want to say that you guys are delusional when/if it comes down to it. The Japanese market will NOT respond to Xenon remotely and ultimately it'll be PS3/N5 that will take their own markets. The Japanese gamers have heard about how MS insulted their Japanese staff; they've seen/known about how badly Xbox bombed. Even if each Xenon console came bundeled with a Kasumi blowup doll you can fuck; the console will probably not move that many numbers. If the PS2/GC fight in Japan is any indicator; Japanese gamers are perfectly happy to stay with the lesser console for the stuff/games/brand that they prefer.

Without a core fanbase in Japan; I doubt many developer will bother with Xenon. We've already seen how badly Capcom and Sega were burnt by xbox. A lot of the perks you guys are talking that MS is supplying Japanese developers for jumping on the XENON bandwagon; what makes you think they weren't already dangling these carrot this gen - and for a whole gen... we've seen no SE title on Xbox. Its not going to change.
 
So for likely stuff we've heard of so far...

-Amusement Vision RPG
-Phantasy Star Universe
-Artoon ARPG
-Dead or Alive 4
-Ninja Gaiden 2
-DOA Code Cronus
-True Fantasy Live Online
-Soul Calibur 3
-Ridge Racer 6 (post launch)
 
Odnetnin said:
I just want to say that you guys are delusional when/if it comes down to it. The Japanese market will NOT respond to Xenon remotely and ultimately it'll be PS3/N5 that will take their own markets. The Japanese gamers have heard about how MS insulted their Japanese staff; they've seen/known about how badly Xbox bombed. Even if each Xenon console came bundeled with a Kasumi blowup doll you can fuck; the console will probably not move that many numbers. If the PS2/GC fight in Japan is any indicator; Japanese gamers are perfectly happy to stay with the lesser console for the stuff/games/brand that they prefer.

Without a core fanbase in Japan; I doubt many developer will bother with Xenon. We've already seen how badly Capcom and Sega were burnt by xbox. A lot of the perks you guys are talking that MS is supplying Japanese developers for jumping on the XENON bandwagon; what makes you think they weren't already dangling these carrot this gen - and for a whole gen... we've seen no SE title on Xbox. Its not going to change.

Exacly. Massive Japanese support to Xenon would kill their own consoles.
 
Yeah I'm thinking some people are being a mite unrealistic with how the Japanese people will respond to Xenon.

Japanese developers on the other hand know that they have to cater to the U.S and Europe and that's where the Xenon will be doing very well for itself. So yeah, better Japanese dev support but token Xenon presence in Japan.
 
Odnetnin said:
I just want to say that you guys are delusional when/if it comes down to it. The Japanese market will NOT respond to Xenon remotely and ultimately it'll be PS3/N5 that will take their own markets. The Japanese gamers have heard about how MS insulted their Japanese staff; they've seen/known about how badly Xbox bombed. Even if each Xenon console came bundeled with a Kasumi blowup doll you can fuck; the console will probably not move that many numbers. If the PS2/GC fight in Japan is any indicator; Japanese gamers are perfectly happy to stay with the lesser console for the stuff/games/brand that they prefer.

Without a core fanbase in Japan; I doubt many developer will bother with Xenon. We've already seen how badly Capcom and Sega were burnt by xbox. A lot of the perks you guys are talking that MS is supplying Japanese developers for jumping on the XENON bandwagon; what makes you think they weren't already dangling these carrot this gen - and for a whole gen... we've seen no SE title on Xbox. Its not going to change.
The only way for MS to be really successful in Japan is to get the exclusivity on a big existing license. And it's exactly what they are trying to do right now, I know there are some very serious talks with Konami about this.
 
Johnny Nighttrain said:
for reference. Ridge Racer will not be at the xenon launch, or anywhere near the system for atleast a year after it comes out.

i know for a fact that the game has been in development since July, but not for xenon, or any current gen systems.

Why not just say it's for PS3? :p

It's almost a sure bet. Maybe a port to Revolution.
 
Blimblim said:
The only way for MS to be really successful in Japan is to get the exclusivity on a big existing license. And it's exactly what they are trying to do right now, I know there are some very serious with Konami about this.

The same Konami that sells a bazillion copies of PES on .... PS2?
 
Hero said:
Why not just say it's for PS3? :p

It's almost a sure bet. Maybe a port to Revolution.

yeah - after the success of ridge racers on psp - its more likely. also, tekken 5 isnt going multiplattform, so ya know that there is some brand exclusivity and this will not change in the next years.
 
Blimblim said:
The only way for MS to be really successful in Japan is to get the exclusivity on a big existing license. And it's exactly what they are trying to do right now, I know there are some very serious talks with Konami about this.

!!!
ssx am crying

;)
 
Anyone think that Xbox will be out in Japan this fall along with the U.S. release? Microsoft is definitely trying to get Japanese support -- that's common sense. What better way to make a splash in Japan than to launch before the PS3 with software aimed at the Japanese market?

They can do the early release, they've got the cash. I think we can also say they care a lot and are not going to corner themselves to the western market. The most important thing, however, is exclusive Japanese support at launch.

This is going to be a very interesting year. About 6 weeks until GDC...
 
Blimblim said:
The only way for MS to be really successful in Japan is to get the exclusivity on a big existing license. And it's exactly what they are trying to do right now, I know there are some very serious talks with Konami about this.

A major defection will occur!?
 
jarrod said:
So for likely stuff we've heard of so far...

-Amusement Vision RPG
-Phantasy Star Universe
-Artoon ARPG
-Dead or Alive 4
-Ninja Gaiden 2
-DOA Code Cronus
-True Fantasy Live Online
-Soul Calibur 3
-Ridge Racer 6 (post launch)


isn't SC3 supposed to come to all the next gen systems? I can't imagine Namco going exclusive with that after how SC2 did multiplatform (and not exclusive to MS since it did the weakest on the Xbox)
 
bloke said:
Or will there be any? So far we have rumors on

Ridge Racer new game
Castlevania new game
Panzer Dragoon Saga II
Soul Calibur III
Mist Walker RPG(s)

anything else?

The new CV game is a PS2 title, i wouldn't expect a Xenon port. The new RR is being developed for the PS2, so even if there's a Xenon port, it won't be anything groundbreaking, likewise for SCIII.

PDS and the fabled "Mist Walker RPG" are just wishful thinking at this point.
 
Mistwalker, Sakaguchi's new company is said to be in negotiations with NINTENDO and Microsoft about a game.

I suspect they'll go with Sony in the end, with Nintendo potentially an upset choice if Nintendo manages to convince Sakaguchi that Revolution will have a chance. I don't think MS will get the Mistwalker game.

As for Square getting on Xbox2, it's quite possible. Square afterall is looking to become a potent publisher and you can't weild power if you're not everwhere, as EA has found out. That said, I expect the best franchises to still go to the company with the biggest installed base next-gen, which will unlikely be Xbox2 and most likely be the PS3.

Also, as with an JP 3rd party, the domestic market matters to a higher degree.
 
MS could do ok in Japan. It's a struggle, and they really fucked it up this gen, but with a bit less stupidity, a smaller console and more money thrown at Japanese developers (a few big exclusives would do...if they're big enough), they could gain a grip.
 
Deku said:
Mistwalker, Sakaguchi's new company is said to be in negotiations with NINTENDO and Microsoft about a game.

I suspect they'll go with Sony in the end, with Nintendo potentially an upset choice if Nintendo manages to convince Sakaguchi that Revolution will have a chance. I don't think MS will get the Mistwalker game.

You're probably right. If the rumors about an eyetoy-esque control scheme for the Revolution pan out, expect little in the way of RPGs.

No one wants to dance around in front of their TV for 40-60 hours.
 
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