No, I'm just not invested in defending the "success" of a game which lost 90% of its player base so rapidly. And that top 10 is in the US alone, right?
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Jason Schrier "Xbox is a 'mess' right now, Plans change every year, Teasing "Handheld" right now"
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
xbox failing really broke some people.
I never expected to see people saying this was anything but an amazing year for PS5.
Let’s not bring down PlayStation just because Xbox is down there.
One is not like the other. Its not even close no matter what some people are trying to convince themselves of.
I never expected to see people saying this was anything but an amazing year for PS5.
Let’s not bring down PlayStation just because Xbox is down there.
One is not like the other. Its not even close no matter what some people are trying to convince themselves of.
HogIsland
Member
Both charge you a subscription fee to play online games. And the prices have gone up!
RetroGamingUK
Member
Many of us don’t like online games
Many of us want to buy and OWN physical games
You’ll never convince us to switch to PC and Steam, sorry
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I fail to see what that has to do with anything.
But since you wanna go there, Xbox was the one that introduced paid online play. PS3 had it for free. Sony realized they could make money like MS by charging for that and decided to do it too.
delfrickintree
Banned
*removes your disc drive*
Nothing personal, kid.
rm082e
Member
I can't imagine they would by the time we get to 2027/28. Most retailers are already downsizing all their physical media and game stores are going the way of the dodo. With all the patching and updates titles need these days, I don't see the point.
Kacho
Gold Member
Xbox? For sure. The mid gen refresh all but confirms that IMO.
I expect next gen PlayStation to be the last hurrah for disc drives. It will be an optional attachment like the Pro while more and more publishers stop shipping physical games.
HogIsland
Member
You realize that 90% of steam sales are just matching what you can get the game for on the used market, yes? So you’re paying for something you don’t own with zero resale value? The idea that PC gaming is less expensive than console gaming is a lie by the way. Statistically speaking.
HogIsland
Member
There's no comparison. A computer I built in 2008 can still play the excellent 2024 PC exclusive Tactical Breach Wizards.
This approach you're taking that PC games don't buy anything is hilarious as Sony rips the disc drive out of ps5 mid cycle. They're gonna force you to go digital and exclusive to their store. As much as I will defend Steam, I still enjoy various competitive purchase options.
RPCGamer
Neophyte
Yeah, I'm calling BS on this. I have been gaming on a potato for years and it's holding up fine. No, it's not on ultra high settings etc (nor are consoles so..) but it does the job and I'm fairly certain I've saved money by not buying a console(s) and games that usually start at $60-70 each for them.
Further more, a lot of indie games never make it to console, so there's a huge library of games out there that consoles miss. As for steam prices, yeah that's again not true. PC has a lot of different storefronts that sell their version or keys to games on other stores. I imagine that's what keeps steam in check on prices. With consoles, you don't really have that. It's the console providers store or the door. The used market is no where near as cheap as it used to be. Oxygen thieves either want a fortune for a old game or most new games don't drop that low. This is not 2007 where you could pick up 3 used games for the price of 2 etc.
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demigod
Member
Uhhh how did you forget Hell Blade 2? That game was sooooo good, it didn’t even chart in the top 100.
RetroGamingUK
Member
It’s a great tech demo, but not a particularly good game by any stretch. I can see why it flopped.
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jm89
Member
Xbox Roadmap™ > Games actually releasing
clarky
Gold Member
Amazing that they bought all these studios and 2 publishers but still cant get anywhere near the "1 AAA game per quarter"
Their output is a joke.
RPCGamer
Neophyte
There's has been some series issues going on at xbox and if I were in charge of MS, I would start an investigation into it. It's been woeful.
jataple
Neo Member
xbox is in a bad position because of their own making, is not casuality that even after an all time "E3" show they are still in this bad omen position, the ABK acquisition changed everything for them and now the eye of sauron (MS leadership) are over and inside the xbox division, they want revenue, profit, more money, multiplatform games more and more, literally doesnt matter how many new games they announce, they are no longer or no loger seen as competition for nintendo or sony
RetroGamingUK
Member
They seem to have announced all their big games for the generation back in 2020.
The new Halo and Gears E-Day will likely be cross-gen with the upcoming consoles (possibly including PS6)
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RPCGamer
Neophyte
A quick check...
Xbox one console exclusives (at the time):
Halo 5: Guardians
Gears of War 4
Forza Horizon 3
Sea of Thieves
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Gears 5
Quantum Break
Sunset Overdrive
Forza Motorsport 5,6,7
Forza Horizon 4
State of Decay 2
ReCore
Dead Rising 3
Killer Instinct
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
Rare Replay
Crimson Dragon
Ryse: Son of Rome
D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die
Fighter Within
Super Lucky's Tale
Powerstar Golf
Kinect Sports Rivals
Dance Central Spotlight
Project Spark
Xbox Fitness
IDARB
Halo Wars 2
Crackdown 3
Fru
Series S|X (at the time)
As Dusk Falls
The Ascent
Call of the Sea
CrossfireX
The Falconeer
Forza Motorsport
The Gunk
Halo Infinite
The Medium
Scorn
12 Minutes
Echo Generation
ExoMecha
Starfield
Redfall
Now, that's not a terrible lineup, but you can easily spot the problems.
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Xbox one console exclusives (at the time):
Halo 5: Guardians
Gears of War 4
Forza Horizon 3
Sea of Thieves
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Gears 5
Quantum Break
Sunset Overdrive
Forza Motorsport 5,6,7
Forza Horizon 4
State of Decay 2
ReCore
Dead Rising 3
Killer Instinct
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
Rare Replay
Crimson Dragon
Ryse: Son of Rome
D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die
Fighter Within
Super Lucky's Tale
Powerstar Golf
Kinect Sports Rivals
Dance Central Spotlight
Project Spark
Xbox Fitness
IDARB
Halo Wars 2
Crackdown 3
Fru
Series S|X (at the time)
As Dusk Falls
The Ascent
Call of the Sea
CrossfireX
The Falconeer
Forza Motorsport
The Gunk
Halo Infinite
The Medium
Scorn
12 Minutes
Echo Generation
ExoMecha
Starfield
Redfall
Now, that's not a terrible lineup, but you can easily spot the problems.
*more added by edit
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XXL
Gold Member
Blade
Gears Eday
Perfect Dark
State of Decay 3
None of these trailers even list platforms at all at the end of the trailers.
Every trailer posted is directly from Xbox YT.
Here are announcements before to see the difference of how trailers use to end.
Hellblade 2
Indiana Jones
Starfield
The entire Halo presentation doesn't even mention Xbox aside from in the past tense and also says nothing about platforms.
Xbox should just rip the band-aid off at this point, imo.
clarky
Gold Member
You missed a few, Starfield, Redfall etc but yes Dogshit.
I said it earlier in the thread, this is their core issue. Its not Rocket science.
Where the fuck is Contraband btw?
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RPCGamer
Neophyte
Buying all these studios/publishers has turned the heads of MS to notice. They now want to see a big return and are will go third party if needs be. The lack of games released is shocking though. Makes me wonder if it's a case of too many people working at xbox and too many chains of command that slow everything down.
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coachmcguirk91
Member
All of those trailers are not saying the platform because they are all coming exclusively to the launch of the "next gen" Xbox releasing in 2026. It just hasn't been announced yet. It's going to be the 360 generation all over again!
The entire Halo presentation doesn't even mention Xbox aside from in the past tense and also says nothing about platforms.
Xbox should just rip the band-aid off at this point, imo.
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clarky
Gold Member
Blade
Gears Eday
Perfect Dark
State of Decay 3
None of these trailers even list platforms at all at the end of the trailers.
Every trailer posted is directly from Xbox YT.
Here are announcements before to see the difference of how trailers use to end.
Hellblade 2
Indiana Jones
Starfield
The entire Halo presentation doesn't even mention Xbox aside from in the past tense and also says nothing about platforms.
Xbox should just rip the band-aid off at this point, imo.
Blade, forgot about that. It interest me very much. Dishonoured but with a Blade twist on it sounds too good.
No doubt Xbox will fuck it up somehow lol.
RetroGamingUK
Member
Nah, they’d say “only on Xbox” in that case.
XXL
Gold Member
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Blade has a ton of potential. I definitely want to see it in action, regardless of what platforms it ends up on.
Post in thread 'Xbox as a console brand seems to be really dying lately can Scarlett change that or will it be a short lived project?' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...-a-short-lived-project.1505326/post-255572821
XXL
Gold Member
You're getting an Xbox branded PC...at best.
At this point, I'm pretty sure there isnt going to be a "next gen" Xbox.
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