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Jay & Silent Bob Reboot

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HIGH DEF JEFF

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Gentleman Jack said:
I get the feeling that Mallrats will eventually come back in some form, maybe 15 years from now when gen xers want to relive their early youth and remind everyone what a 'shopping mall' used to be in a zany throwback sense. There can be wacky references to other decrepit things like flip phones, CDs, video arcades and Jason Mewes.
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But that time would be now.
And its a terrible idea.

That Clerks doc was so well named, "Back to the Well". Thats all he does.
 
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Breads

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Zen_Arcade said:
More artists should do this. Worrying about what other people want is what leads to so many unoriginal pieces of media.

Not to mention, that was his same exact mentality when he was making what people consider to be his good movies.

I don't understand why people are shitting on the idea of Clerks III when Clerks II was so entertaining.
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Creative works are good because they are good.

Being original doesn't automatically make it worth while.

Exhibit A: Yoko Ono
 
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Ashby

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Gentleman Jack said:
I get the feeling that Mallrats will eventually come back in some form, maybe 15 years from now when gen xers want to relive their early youth and remind everyone what a 'shopping mall' used to be in a zany throwback sense. There can be wacky references to other decrepit things like flip phones, CDs, video arcades and Jason Mewes.
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Gen Xers are gonna be like 65 in 15 years.
 
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Owari

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Clerks 2 was great. Zack & Miri was great. Red State was great. Tusk was great. Yoga Hosers was great.

This movie is gonna kick ass.

As for the Jay & Silent Bob haters ..
Jay & Silent Bob said:
All you motherfuckers are gonna pay. You are the ones who are the ball-lickers. We're gonna fuck your mothers while you watch and cry like little, whiny bitches. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Miramax fucks who is makin' the movie... we're gonna make them eat our shit, then shit out our shit, and then eat their shit that's made up of our shit that we made 'em eat. Then you're all you motherfucks are next.

Love- Jay and Silent Bob.
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I'm just kidding btw! I can see how someone might not like Tusk and Yoga Hosers. (Especially Tusk, that shit gets wretched, but I loved it lol)

Someone just needed to post this quote in response to the Jay & Silent Bob hate on an internet forum.
 
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Zen_Arcade

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Breads said:
Creative works are good because they are good.

Being original doesn't automatically make it worth while.

Exhibit A: Yoko Ono
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Good is subjective, so your point is kind of moot. Personally, I've found value in every Kevin Smith movie and I've seen all of them outside of Yoga Hosers.

And if my options are good and repetitive or bad but original, I'd take bad but original because at the very least there might be something I haven't seen before. Obviously in a perfect world you want good and original, but you can't do that without taking the chance that your original thing might not land with everyone.
 
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Owari

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I've been clamoring for a new Jay & Silent Bob. Love all of his films.

The real issue here is that no one has handed Kevin Smith a superhero movie to direct yet. He'd do a great job with a high budget campy Batman or something. Maybe one day..
 
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thechristoph

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I think people who actively think that things shouldn't be made because they don't like them are mean and jerks and should feel bad.

I'm really bummed about Clerks 3. I wasn't a very big Mallrats fan anyway so that one doesn't hurt me... but I wanted to spend more time with Dante, Randall, and Elias. Drag.
 
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jobrro

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Damn it has been nearly as long since Clerks 2 as between Clerks and Clerks 2 (1994 and 2006 release).

I'm up for a new Jay and Silent Bob, Clerks 3 or new Mallrats though.
 
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Gentleman Jack

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jaxapollo said:
I've been clamoring for a new Jay & Silent Bob. Love all of his films.

The real issue here is that no one has handed Kevin Smith a superhero movie to direct yet. He'd do a great job with a high budget campy Batman or something. Maybe one day..
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Is any of his comic book work worth reading? I'm not familiar with any of the superhero stuff he's involved himself in.
 
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Budi

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Looking forward to it, I used to be a big fan of Kevin Smith. But his latest movies haven't really done it for me. Love hearing him talk and share stories though. I'm glad that he decides to milk Jay & Silent Bob a bit more. Isn't there also supposed to be a game coming out?
 
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ProtomanNeo

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jaxapollo said:
I've been clamoring for a new Jay & Silent Bob. Love all of his films.

The real issue here is that no one has handed Kevin Smith a superhero movie to direct yet. He'd do a great job with a high budget campy Batman or something. Maybe one day..
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Having read his Superman Lives script years ago I would, with all due respect disagree.
 
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Owari

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Gentleman Jack said:
Is any of his comic book work worth reading? I'm not familiar with any of the superhero stuff he's involved himself in.
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It's actually pretty awesome. I never thought he'd be able to write like that, but then again, Red State exists, so yeah, he's pretty talented.

ProtomanNeo said:
Having read his Superman Lives script years ago I would, with all due respect disagree.
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Yeah, it was awful. That's why I said campy instead of serious. Kinda like Batman Forever or something. Deadpool 3?
 
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cj_iwakura

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Speaking as a huge fan of Kevin and nearly all of his films, Yoga Hosers is real bad. The only good parts are the convenience store scenes and the pair's chemistry. It's just bad otherwise.
 
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LionPride

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Like, Yoga Hosers was a movie that sucked the fun outta me, one of the worst movies ever made honestly

He don't need to make anything else
 
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ProtomanNeo

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Kevin Smith is a wonderful guy, that in every respect is an average artist. He works best on television because the producer has already dictated the style of the show, and the actors already have an idea of how to approach their characters. There's not a lot for him to mess up. With a film. Watch out. All indications from looking at his filmography suggests he wouldn't be able to handle directing a studio film.
 
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Carnby

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GrayFoxPL said:
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Lol. I hope this gif gets more use. It's like the opposite of Banderas gif.
 
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Speevy

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How can you satirize Hollywood when you opted out of it to make shit like yoga hosers?


Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was...okay because it felt like it had some semblance of Hollywood in it, or at least Kevin Smith's version of it.

I mean good grief, George Carlin died almost 10 years ago, and he was in the first one nearly 10 years earlier.

If Smith wants to make a movie, he should make one in which he's the main character playing himself, like a "The Wrestler" but instead of bleaching his air and going to matches, he's this guy who spends his life trying to connect with pop culture even as he's no longer a part of it. Kevin Smith doesn't get that Kevin Smith, not Silent Bob, is the best character he's ever played. He could even have Jason Mewes play his friend (but not Jay).

Hollywood has already sent itself up so many times that no one is interested. We're past the parody movies. The satires. The in-jokes.
 
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cj_iwakura

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ProtomanNeo said:
Kevin Smith is a wonderful guy, that in every respect is an average artist. He works best on television because the producer has already dictated the style of the show, and the actors already have an idea of how to approach their characters. There's not a lot for him to mess up. With a film. Watch out. All indications from looking at his filmography suggests he wouldn't be able to handle directing a studio film.
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He did Cop Out. It was awful.
 
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Mase Gumble

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Oh shit Kevin Smith is still making films?

I say this as someone who used to be a fan but stopped giving a shit a loooooong time ago.
 
MrCunningham

MrCunningham

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Ah never mind, I didn't read the synapses. So it is a movie reboot of the Jay & Silent Bob movie in Jay & Silent Bob Strikes back? Hmm.
 
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Speevy

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Arc said:
Clerks II was incredible. So much heart for a goofy comedy. Hoping for the same here.
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The best parts of Clerks 2 were the ones where you got the sense that the entire Kevin Smith crew was ready to move on. It acknowledges that the characters are old and their schtick is pathetic.
 
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Big_Al

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Sure I'll give it a shot if he gets it made. I haven't watched any of the mans films in recent years, think the last one I saw was Zack and Miri Make A Porno (which was ok) and don't really care too tbh. I do love his podcast work though, especially Hollywood Babylon which I enjoy a lot.

In regards to Ben Affleck I'm pretty certain he's even stated before that they just kinda lost contact over the years as he never really got on with Jennifer Garner that well and they just naturally drifted apart. I don't think there's any actual feud/hatred there or anything like that.
 
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Breads

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Zen_Arcade said:
Good is subjective, so your point is kind of moot. Personally, I've found value in every Kevin Smith movie and I've seen all of them outside of Yoga Hosers.

And if my options are good and repetitive or bad but original, I'd take bad but original because at the very least there might be something I haven't seen before. Obviously in a perfect world you want good and original, but you can't do that without taking the chance that your original thing might not land with everyone.
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I prefer the quality of media being elevated through refinement and perspective than the struggle to be the first to do a thing. Sensibilities are shaped by the things that came before it and I'm glad we live in a world where the common instinct isn't to eschew it for some empty claim of being a superior form of creativity.
 
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nintendork666

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The View Askewniverse films are the ones I STILL put on to this day, and feel like I'm hanging out with old friends.

Yoga Hosers was trash, but my soft-spot for Smith will never die. Sad to hear that neither Mallbrats or C3 are in the works anymore... this is something I very much want however. Dude's still technically my favorite director. Chasing Amy is a masterpiece. Dogma is still an epic. Bite me.
 
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Ominym

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Breads said:
I've listened to his podcasts, watched live appearences, skimmed through his events, and cringed my way through his latest movies.

We need to stop giving this man money. He only wants to entertain himself and clearly no one else and he wants other people to pay for it.
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That's kind of... a weird way to look at art. While I agree that his latest film output has been shit in my opinion, I don't see why he should be disdained for "entertain(ing) himself and clearly no one else and he wants other people to pay for it."

I mean, should we only be funding people who turn a profit? Should we deny exposure to people who are just doing it for themselves and those like them?
 
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GoutPatrol

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Speevy said:
The best parts of Clerks 2 were the ones where you got the sense that the entire Kevin Smith crew was ready to move on. It acknowledges that the characters are old and their schtick is pathetic.
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Yeah I thought the only really good parts were in the jail cell at the end.

Even though I skipped Tusk and Hovers...I would probably watch this.
 
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