justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
It's always funny to watch these CEOs come up with creative reasonings for it's absurd prices, instead of the plain: we know people will pay for it.
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Jensen Huang on 5090 price: "Our enthusiasts won’t settle for sth slightly better or save $100 by choosing sth a bit worse. They just want the best."
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Unknown Soldier
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I mean that's how capitalism works. You produce something people want, they give you money for it, both parties transact and get what they desire
It's so weird watching like 684 people standing around watching the buyer and the seller transacting and screaming about it
Capitalism isn't a spectator sport
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Rather amusing seeing how many people get triggered by what others spend their money on
PeteBull
Member
Yup, they do, otherwise street/real price for 4090 wouldnt be sitting now at 2,5k usd , and we talking worst possible basic models here:I am realy curious to see what's the dollar sales like for 4090 compared to lower-end cards like 4060. Are they really making more bank on the flagship card?
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HeisenbergFX4
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peish
Member
The sales will prove him right.
5090 is essentially double the hardware of 5080, it is a fair deal
Unlike say ps5 pro, 5090 is downright too cheap if you use it for AI shite with gaming. Jensen is offering pc gamers a great deal, granted he dont use fake software blockers on LLM in 5090 drivers.
5090 is essentially double the hardware of 5080, it is a fair deal
Unlike say ps5 pro, 5090 is downright too cheap if you use it for AI shite with gaming. Jensen is offering pc gamers a great deal, granted he dont use fake software blockers on LLM in 5090 drivers.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
i dont bootlick, im sorry.People that call others names because of what they buy come across as very jealous
bender
What time is it?
dorkPeople that call others names because of what they buy come across as very jealous
A.Romero
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What do you mean? That's the best experience money can buy.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I agree
I don’t know why NVIDIA doesn’t price it at $5k or $10k
The people that are the market for this do not care about the price, they just want to have the best, and there is no competition or alternative
Interfectum
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
That's shocked me too with the PS Portal and PS5 Pro price reveals. Weird people get mad at others for finding value in things they like.
Mister Wolf
Member
Yeah. That trips me out too.
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
Then just come out and say it. We want as much money as possible. We have people willing to pay for it. That’s it.
Don’t spin the hamster wheel as if aw shucks, we’re doing them a favor. The blowing smoke up assholes is what people don’t like. And rightfully so.
I can afford their GPU but I refuse to buy it. One of the reasons I can afford to buy it is that I’m smart with my money. I can get the overwhelming majority of what they’re selling for less than half the cost.
If you want to buy it, go ahead, but by supporting predatory pricing understand that eventually one day you may be priced out yourself.
SaniOYOYOY
Member
Its not black and white, on one hand its correct that I dont want some unknown bozo comments on what I spend money on, on the other hand it signal companies that customers are okay with increased pricing.
Aka. you do whatever you like, but I still want my cheap GPUs
Mister Wolf
Member
Work harder then or learn a more valuable skill.
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SaniOYOYOY
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Average nvidia customer
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
It's only really a <$300 increase over launch 4090 MSRP once you factor in inflation, and seeing how the 4090 was selling well over MSRP for basically all of 2024 the price they set is actually lower than they could have.
People will eat this thing up.
People will eat this thing up.
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
LOL, this logic is exactly why there is so much inflation.
SaniOYOYOY
Member
Let me put it this way, id rather put 2k on nvidia stock than rtx 5090
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Eh? i put the numbers into an inflation calculator and the higher selling price of the 4090 is a known fact, you think a business with a monopoly on the high end would sell at a lower price when the demand is there at a higher price?
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DoubleClutch
Gold Member
You think they could’ve sold it higher. But using capitalist logic, they couldn’t have because if they could have they would have. Keep in mind inflation is an opportunity to pad margins and everybody takes it.
There is capitalism and then there is predatory capitalism. Costco put it best, Wall Street thinks about making as much profit over the next 5 days, we think about the next 50 years. They caught lightning in a bottle but this isn’t sustainable.
Nvidia has trained everybody to bear higher prices bumping it significantly at each iteration for not as much performance improvement. We went from a $699 1080 Ti which people thought was expensive to a $2K 5090, and there’s people saying this is a good deal.
Charge me harder daddy.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
I'm actually very surprised to see the total cost of my setup. It's much higher than expected. A good proportion of this cost is attributed to the audio system in my room - do most people here have a dedicated 5.1 setup or do they use headsets? I also don't think many people solely buy OLED TVs as their gaming monitors.
- £1074 for my 48" LG OLED
- £629 for my SVS SB 1000 Pro Subwoofer
- £800 for my 5.0 surround speakers
- £1249 for my Marantz Cinema 50 receiver
- £2468 for my PC (9800X3D, X870E mobo, RTX 4080, 64GB RAM, 850W PSU, 1+2+4TB M2 SSDs, case)
- £448 for my chair (Secretlab)
Total:
£6,668 = $8,194
Whilst I can afford it, I still think the 5090 represents shit value for money. You're paying 2K to play PS5 games with fake frames. I'll probably wait for the 6000 series.
- £1074 for my 48" LG OLED
- £629 for my SVS SB 1000 Pro Subwoofer
- £800 for my 5.0 surround speakers
- £1249 for my Marantz Cinema 50 receiver
- £2468 for my PC (9800X3D, X870E mobo, RTX 4080, 64GB RAM, 850W PSU, 1+2+4TB M2 SSDs, case)
- £448 for my chair (Secretlab)
Total:
£6,668 = $8,194
Whilst I can afford it, I still think the 5090 represents shit value for money. You're paying 2K to play PS5 games with fake frames. I'll probably wait for the 6000 series.
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UniformDeliverance
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My pc is plugged into my entertainment system. 77 inch oled with a Samsung surround sound atmos system. I love it.
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
LOL, people are putting multi audio sound systems, all the hardware in their PC, their TV, receivers and some people are including their furniture into account, and then saying it’s perfectly reasonable for a GPU alone to take 20-25% of that entire cost.
Crazy.
Crazy.
Gamerfan81
Member
Damn, a certain fan base is really irate with the imminent announcement of the Switch 2 and the release of these new RTX cards. It ain't that serious, if the RTX cards and the Switch 2 ain't for you, move on and game on your favorite console.
Stop pocket watching and being concern with what another person spends their money on.
Stop pocket watching and being concern with what another person spends their money on.
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
Just as people are free to spend their money as they wish, people are free to give their thoughts as they wish.
Freedom of speech. Deal with it.
Fortuneelsewhere
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It’s certainly entertaining some people in this forum are always talking about how options it’s such a great thing… but I see that is only the case when they fit their budgets, because once the options come for those who have real money such options shouldn’t exist…
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SweetTooth
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We all thought it's gonna be more performant too
clarky
Gold Member
What a retarded take.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
It certainly isn't.
The GPU will be quickly outdated.
The TV and audio system will last a hell of a lot longer.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
Well - you don't have to spend that money on a single piece of hardware.
Whilst I disagree with the price, if you want the best possible performance at no compromises - then that option is there for the hardcore crowd.
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clarky
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Most people who buy these things sell it on every refresh. I believe you can still get $1500+ easily for a 4090.
DenchDeckard
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I must admit, I am actually in two minds about buying the 5090... On one hand it is absolutely perfect for my small form factor build but I will deffo be waiting for launch day benchmarks vs my 4090.
The problem I have is that the card I am buying is for a second PC, so if I was selling my 4090 and buying I wouldnt mind at all. I am just not sure if I am convinced on the performance uplift VS 4090.
Basically, I need to see more lol
The problem I have is that the card I am buying is for a second PC, so if I was selling my 4090 and buying I wouldnt mind at all. I am just not sure if I am convinced on the performance uplift VS 4090.
Basically, I need to see more lol
Cakeboxer
Gold Member
I woudn't buy a 5090 either, but it's still a comparatively cheap hobby and other people buy 500 Euro PS5+ 800 Euro PS5 Pro + 250 Euro controller. Not to forget >500 Euro for one gen online fee + 80 Euro for each new game while pc players save a lot on both. I wouldn't call others stupid, because they want and can spend more money for a better experience.
ChuckeRearmed
Gold Member
"The more you buy, the more you save" Jensen 17:25
clarky
Gold Member
Eh? They didn't go from a 1080ti at $699 to to the 5090 at $2k. The top end card has always been nearly double the next best. The GTX Titan was $1200 at launch, RTX Titan $2500 (lol), 3090 $1500, 4090 $1600, now this at $2000. Pretty consistently shit.
Why the outrage now? They've always done this. Not saying its a good deal, I don't think i'll upgrade personally but this is hardly new.
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clarky
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Is that not the goal for every company?
Make as much money as possible
A product is only worth what people will pay for it
Mister Wolf
Member
These dudes act like there aren't other options. They want the best for cheap. Even trying to tell others how to spend their hard earned money. Yeah and I wish Remy Martin Louis XIII cost the same as some liquor store E&J. Not happening.