DirtyBast8rd
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Still not the same. And I know high end headphones can have binaural audio. It's still no comparison.
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Jensen Huang on 5090 price: "Our enthusiasts won’t settle for sth slightly better or save $100 by choosing sth a bit worse. They just want the best."
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DirtyBast8rd
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Key words are somewhat and mimic. Of course if you are on a monitor it might not be practical and you need to have room to place speakers. But thinking you have the same quality sound is simply not true. Though they might sound good.
llien
Banned
I recall with one of the premium gens, hopelessly overpriced halos were 1-2% of the market, but 12%+ of the revenue.
llien
Banned
For some reason I've read about you buying "those cards" at least 3 times.
And I'm not even much of a reader on this forum, pardon my a-socialness.
llien
Banned
The reason is even simpler.
The die size:
4080 - 379 mm²
4090 - 609 mm²
He'd be happy to charge you more for 4080, but that card is within reach for the pesky competitor that wrecked havoc in 3000 lineup (that is how you got 3060 with more VRAM than 3080).
In the entire 5000 product line, the xx90 is the only card that got 30% beefier. The rest is not even at +20%.
Stop complaining, the lord is being generous. $1999 is not $2499.
Previous gen was $1599 only on paper.
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cinnamonandgravy
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big ass OLEDs can be $4k or $5k, or even higher.
high end sound systems can easily be $10k or more by themselves.
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asdasdasdbb
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That's because they decided that 6 was too little but going with 8 on 128-bit bus hurt performance too much (which they ended up doing later anyway)
Crayon
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I don't give a shit that it's 2000usd. The 4090 and 5090 are DEVASTATING in performance. Nobody needs it for gaming? Yeah no shit sherlock. Go ahead and be salty.
Nobody needs hand built bike frames when a machine welded one is better and cheaper. Nobody needs an $800 jacket. Nobody needs thousands of dollars in retro games when it can all be played for free.
And further, when you have the cut and dry best product, or moreso a product in a class of it's own, you get to charge another premium on top. The PS5 pro is $700 because there is no xbox sx xxekts. It's a luxury item -> boom $600, and it's the only of it's kind -> boom $700.
I unnecessarily blow money on all the luxury items I mentioned above (Actually, not the pro. See below.), but don't personally have the inclination to spend the same money on very, very, high performance pc stuff. In fact, something makes me frugal about spending on hardware. I don't know why that is exactly but that's how it is.
The only way I could shame people splurging on this is if I didn't understand any of that.
Nobody needs hand built bike frames when a machine welded one is better and cheaper. Nobody needs an $800 jacket. Nobody needs thousands of dollars in retro games when it can all be played for free.
And further, when you have the cut and dry best product, or moreso a product in a class of it's own, you get to charge another premium on top. The PS5 pro is $700 because there is no xbox sx xxekts. It's a luxury item -> boom $600, and it's the only of it's kind -> boom $700.
I unnecessarily blow money on all the luxury items I mentioned above (Actually, not the pro. See below.), but don't personally have the inclination to spend the same money on very, very, high performance pc stuff. In fact, something makes me frugal about spending on hardware. I don't know why that is exactly but that's how it is.
The only way I could shame people splurging on this is if I didn't understand any of that.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Crayon
Member
But but what about the people calling us dumbasses or stupid?
Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons?
Unknown Soldier
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Nobody ever tell them how much a Lamborghini costsBut but what about the people calling us dumbasses or stupid?
llien
Banned
No, that's because AMD's lineup made whatever was later named 3080 rather too expensive if fitted with 20GB as very apparently originally planned.
llien
Banned
What is the diff between dumbass and stupid?
I think 80%+ of "you" are bragbrags.
The "but I simply want the best" angle also... doesn't quite cut it, given the cable connector melting nature of the last gen's "halo" from NV. It's a lot of hassle. And hassle does not go well with "want the best", I think.
So, bragbrags it is.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Bragging about buying a $2k GPU?
There are a lot of people here that if they really wanted to brag it wouldn't be about something as trivial as a $2k product
Real bragging would make some people like you really have a meltdown
Those of us who do indeed want the best are pretty excited about getting a new toy, sorry it bothers some of you so much that you're either not capable of spending that money or simply don't want to which I get that
BlitzerRadic
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Just because you went bargain shopping to build your PC doesnt mean everyone else does that. Singularity is selling just a case for over $3k right now.
When he says $10k systems he's talking about the influencers who are going to be shilling the cards he sends them.
Dr. Acid Avatar
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If you're calling a 9800x3d bargain shopping, you can go back to wherever the fuck you came from.
Trilobit
Member
Yeah, I'm not in this customer segment, but I can absolutely see how people who rake in a lot of cash each year and love PC gaming would be disappointed if Nvidia didn't launch an enthusiast level card. If I had a very good disposable income I'd likely want to buy some really good camping gear, not to brag but because I'd want the best I could afford. Like UL stuff. And there are middle-class families who have a budget of over $5K each year in travel costs because they appreciate that. So buying a 5090 and using it for 1-2 years isn't a big deal. And $2K becomes an even more negligible sum if you're a self-employed creative as you'll likely have to get laptops to your company that would make my knees weak.
bender
What time is it?
But but what about the people calling us dumbasses or stupid?
OverHeat
« generous god »
HeisenbergFX4
let those salty MOFO be. Like you said 2000$ is fucking nothing. Some posters are just jealous as fuck…
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llien
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Yeah.
You mean one should bragbrag about something more expensive.
Say, a car. Or a villa. Heck, or a 50+ feet yacht. Hell yes!
But, we are on a gaming forum.
In a thread about GPUs.
Making that rather awkward.
However, some bragbrags are unstoppable.
Happened in my WoW guild.
A guy casually asked if anyone would want to buy his high 6 digit $ used car.
Oh well.
We were impressed that such cars existed. Or at least I was.
Yeah. The poor cheapcheaps are jealous.
MarV0
Gold Member
Says the peasant that has to struggle to cram his half-assed home gym together with his PC setup.
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OverHeat
« generous god »
What?
MarV0
Gold Member
Get your priorities right instead of giving Jensen $2k for a subpar product.
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bender
What time is it?
OverHeat
« generous god »
Edgelord79
Gold Member
I don’t have a problem with the 5090 pricing. If that’s the top end then whatever. The best things are usually more expensive. Not everyone can get the best car, the best house, the best boat, etc…
clarky
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Nobody gives a fuck if anyone else is impressed, Jealous or anything else. If you don't like the discussion then don't participate.
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clarky
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I'm more concerned at this point about where your home gym set up is now and if you need to move home to accommodate it. Rather than being so frivolous and spending all your cash on a GPU you obviously can't afford.
OverHeat
« generous god »
clarky
Gold Member
Phew, I was getting worried about you there champ. Now quit being a "bragbags"More then enough space…
clarky
Gold Member
No ur dumb.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Okay here is some gold…you need it since you cant afford it
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asdasdasdbb
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Not sure what you mean. The 3060 12 GB was released 5 months later than the 3080. Plus it used regular GDDR6 which had 2 GB chips available whereas it's unclear when 2 GB GDDR6X became available but wasn't when the 3080 launched.
NV did test a 3080 20 GB but it ended up not being released.
Myths
Member
Indeed, their only use is for playing video games.
Celcius
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I'm more concerned about y'all stalking this person and tracking down his setup to make comments about it in a completely unrelated thread tbh.
We're out here talking about videocards and y'all are criticizing how a grown man spends his money and what his house looks like.
Sometimes it feels like threads about prices bring out the worst in folks here.
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clarky
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Think you missed the joke there partner. Try actually reading the page you are on?
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StereoVsn
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Or they are an enthusiast and that’s their hobby. A buddy of mine is into bicycling and spends thousands of $ a year on equipment, parts and so on.
He has bikes (not electric) that cost over $10K. Would I spend my money that way? No, but it’s his thing and he is perfectly well entitled to spend his cash.
Another friend of mine is into music, specifically guitars. I don’t want to go into his setup and let’s just say that building a $10K PC a year would be less vs what he spends.
Heck, another friend of mine is a pilot and his hobby is also flying his own plane. He spends a ton of cash on hangar rental, upkeep and so on.
I could go on. My friends are not rich, but they are successful professionals and can afford to spend money on their hobbies. So It’s silly to do name calling that someone wants to spend $2-2.5K on a GPU when it’s really not that bad compared to other hobbies.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
I feel attacked!
*looks at iPhones, iPads and MacBooks for his family and Apple TVs /Home Pods in every room…
*
Celcius
°Temp. member
My bad if y'all were just joking back and forth
clarky
Gold Member
You successfully identified one stalker so all good.
llien
Banned
Oh. So a 5070 released later on, having 60% more VRAM than 5080 would be totally fine then.
Such a simple idea somehow didn't come to my mind.
Thanks.
Anyway, lolz aside, 3080 was a card sandwitched between 6800XT ($650) which was very close to it and had 16GB and 6900XT ($1000) which was closer to 3090 than 3080.
Higher end GPU is exactly where NV didn't expect AMD to show up, as with 5000 series. (there was also that lovely theory about "catching up" taking years and all)
Just when I was looking for people qualified to talk on behalf of a lot of other people, you have shown up.
Thank you so much!
But if you don't like the discussion then don't participate.
Simple, doh?