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JezC:If you can at least theoretically afford a gaming PC but DON'T want to game on PC, what are your reasons for sticking with a console?
TropicanaTwista
Member
Pretty simple for me
1) convenience - Consoles are mainly just plug n play, from both the standpoint of when you first buy and when you buy games separately. No need to worry about drivers or capability.
2) Accessibility - not saying you can't do this in PC but it's much more of a pain but I love being able to easily play console on my big screen TV while being able to sit on my couch. Also I don't do this as much anymore but when I was younger I would take my consoles on trips or to friends houses and such . Just the ease of use of these things is such a positive.
3) Price - you can make the argument consoles maybe more expensive the long-run with online fees for whatever. But just having a price of anywhere from $300-500 at launch and not really have to worry about anything hardware wise for the next 7ish years is very appealing.
Only real thing I see as better for PC is you can get better graphics/ performance. But that is so unimportant to me, especially for the more you have to pay for that premium.
1) convenience - Consoles are mainly just plug n play, from both the standpoint of when you first buy and when you buy games separately. No need to worry about drivers or capability.
2) Accessibility - not saying you can't do this in PC but it's much more of a pain but I love being able to easily play console on my big screen TV while being able to sit on my couch. Also I don't do this as much anymore but when I was younger I would take my consoles on trips or to friends houses and such . Just the ease of use of these things is such a positive.
3) Price - you can make the argument consoles maybe more expensive the long-run with online fees for whatever. But just having a price of anywhere from $300-500 at launch and not really have to worry about anything hardware wise for the next 7ish years is very appealing.
Only real thing I see as better for PC is you can get better graphics/ performance. But that is so unimportant to me, especially for the more you have to pay for that premium.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Those guys simply can not grasp most people prefer Playstation games no matter how much money they have to spend on gaming equipment
Coloress_Kafka
Member
Windows has been absolute dogshit after Windows 7. I’ll never willingly use a Windows PC again the Linux, Mac, console life is pure bliss.
RetroGamingUK
Member
Having done the high end PC tour, the simple fact is the things I really care about improving or that would elevate most games are not improved on PC
e.g. animations, geometry and logic/ai design
We're all eating the same cake, just with different quality icing. And it's much nicer eating that slightly lesser cake at home with all your amenities and creature comforts than at the office/hallway.
Remember the late 90s and early 00s with PC exclusives that looked a full generation ahead and of which consoles didn’t even have a prayer of running, plus being the only place to play online?
Yeah there’s not much to draw me to PC these days.
MisterXDTV
Member
clarky
Gold Member
That's stage one of PC ownership.
Stage 2 is much more enjoyable when you accept the $2k+ machine you just built still can't play everything at 4k RT on at a rock solid 240fps.
Parazels
Member
I do love to own a well made, premium, compact device with branded gamepad and interface. A console manufacturer respects me, he gives me a user friendly device for my excitement. I appreciate this approach.
And don't tell me "you can choose a pc box" or "you can choose any pc gamepad". I don't want to mix a bunch of shit from random manufacturers. I hate to deal with pc interface.
Also each console has its history, good memories.
And don't tell me "you can choose a pc box" or "you can choose any pc gamepad". I don't want to mix a bunch of shit from random manufacturers. I hate to deal with pc interface.
Also each console has its history, good memories.
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Alebrije
Member
Console Pros :
Consoles are closed systems just plug and play
Most cost efficient for the performance You get
The couch
The Big screens
Better fit Home theatre devices ( 5.1,7.1 ,9.1)
Why don't move to PC:
If You are an ignorant like me about how yo assemble a gaming PC no matter how many You tube videos You watch , there always be troubles.
If You decide to Buy an assembled gaming PC like te ones You SEE on Amazon most of time You Will pay more money ( a Lot) that if You did it by yourself.
So I skip PC because it ismoney and time consuming , Yep you get the Best performance but the cost vs consoles don't justify it.
Consoles are closed systems just plug and play
Most cost efficient for the performance You get
The couch
The Big screens
Better fit Home theatre devices ( 5.1,7.1 ,9.1)
Why don't move to PC:
If You are an ignorant like me about how yo assemble a gaming PC no matter how many You tube videos You watch , there always be troubles.
If You decide to Buy an assembled gaming PC like te ones You SEE on Amazon most of time You Will pay more money ( a Lot) that if You did it by yourself.
So I skip PC because it ismoney and time consuming , Yep you get the Best performance but the cost vs consoles don't justify it.
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Shake Your Rump
Banned
I have a gaming PC that can play everything I want at 4K between 100-200fps using DLSS. I still prefer my PS5. Why? Retail discs. That's literally it. If PC games were sold on retail discs, or even somehow had transferable digital licenses, I would go full PC.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This is a horrible way to view it. Some people can afford something, but will choose the thing they are most comfortable with. Why jump to PC if you are satisfied with playing on a console?
Astray
Member
It's not just that. There are features like rest mode and remote pre-loading that can really help out in a pinch.
My wife and I are playing Re:Fantazio rn (I'm on my PC, she's on PS5), and whenever something comes up while we're playing, she gets into rest mode with one click, while I have to find a save spot, which can be a pain if you're in a dungeon.
These features simply don't exist on PC, and cannot exist due to how PCs work, you would need a major change in how a PC is engineered to do stuff like this.
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RetroGamingUK
Member
This might sound like a terrible thing, but…
…you also get the feeling that you’re part of a community that’s all sharing the seye experience. You can tech design trends by PlayStation consoles, they’re iconic.
Soodanim
Member
Am I being thick or is JezC's question just bad?
He seems to be insinuating that a lack of money is the primary factor for not being on PC, and everything else is secondary reasons he won't have heard before.
The implication that PC is the final goal for everyone and consoles are something people settle for in the meantime is quite something.
He seems to be insinuating that a lack of money is the primary factor for not being on PC, and everything else is secondary reasons he won't have heard before.
The implication that PC is the final goal for everyone and consoles are something people settle for in the meantime is quite something.
nnytk
Member
There's a ton of great replies in that X thread. And I can relate. Been gaming and upgrading my PC since 1999 and this year marks the first time I'm going for PS5.
Why?
I want to relax behind the TV and not be involved with launchers and troubleshooting.
I spend enough time behind my PC or work laptop.
I don't want to break the bank for a new gaming PC.
I dislike building my own PC and maintaining it.
A lot of games are stuck on PS5, ports are hit and miss, and games take longer to reach PC.
Our TV is in the cozy living room. Always a good temperature. Good vibes.
I want physical copies.
I don't have anything against PC gaming, I'm just moving my focus to consoles. Personal preference.
Why?
I want to relax behind the TV and not be involved with launchers and troubleshooting.
I spend enough time behind my PC or work laptop.
I don't want to break the bank for a new gaming PC.
I dislike building my own PC and maintaining it.
A lot of games are stuck on PS5, ports are hit and miss, and games take longer to reach PC.
Our TV is in the cozy living room. Always a good temperature. Good vibes.
I want physical copies.
I don't have anything against PC gaming, I'm just moving my focus to consoles. Personal preference.
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Killjoy-NL
Banned
I like the ease of consoles. Period.
No need to worry about system requirements, drivers, pretty much every game release on PC is unoptimized and form factor plays a role as well.
No need to worry about system requirements, drivers, pretty much every game release on PC is unoptimized and form factor plays a role as well.
dmaul1114
Banned
For me I may well make the switch after this gen. Getting a PS5 Pro to stretch out the gen and see how Sony’s porting to PC goes in the future.
The main sticking point for me at this point is Sony games getting ports 2ish years later (and sometimes longer like TLOU2 that’s still not out). Those are some of my favorite games each generation and many I want to play day one. If they start porting more games in a year or less, that could change my thinking. Xbox games are already on PC day one and I can likely live without Nintendo games (or just buy a Switch 2 to go along since PS6 or PC depending on game offerings).
Otherwise, it’s just minor nitpicks. While easily affordable, it’s still a good chunk more and I”m not that big of a graphics/performance whore really. While gaming on a TV (zero interest in gaming on a desk) is way easier (still have my older PC with a GTX970 hooked up to my TV and my monitors), it’s still not as smooth as just turning on a console.
But really, it’s just wanting Sony games day 1, or at least in a year or so, that’s the main barrier. So many are story driven I don’t want to wait 2 years and get spoiled on everything, on top of just liking to play a lot of them day 1 when the OTs are active etc.
End of the day, I’m also mid 40s and just don’t have the time and passion for gaming to own multiple platforms (other than MAYBE Nintendo along side a main platform). So I’ll enjoy my PS5 Pro for a while into the PS6 generation and decide then whether I want to go PS6 or PC.
The main sticking point for me at this point is Sony games getting ports 2ish years later (and sometimes longer like TLOU2 that’s still not out). Those are some of my favorite games each generation and many I want to play day one. If they start porting more games in a year or less, that could change my thinking. Xbox games are already on PC day one and I can likely live without Nintendo games (or just buy a Switch 2 to go along since PS6 or PC depending on game offerings).
Otherwise, it’s just minor nitpicks. While easily affordable, it’s still a good chunk more and I”m not that big of a graphics/performance whore really. While gaming on a TV (zero interest in gaming on a desk) is way easier (still have my older PC with a GTX970 hooked up to my TV and my monitors), it’s still not as smooth as just turning on a console.
But really, it’s just wanting Sony games day 1, or at least in a year or so, that’s the main barrier. So many are story driven I don’t want to wait 2 years and get spoiled on everything, on top of just liking to play a lot of them day 1 when the OTs are active etc.
End of the day, I’m also mid 40s and just don’t have the time and passion for gaming to own multiple platforms (other than MAYBE Nintendo along side a main platform). So I’ll enjoy my PS5 Pro for a while into the PS6 generation and decide then whether I want to go PS6 or PC.
coachmcguirk91
Member
Why is Jez singling out the PS5? The Xbox literally has no purpose, as it plays all PC games day one. Probably hard for him to say that on an Xbox podcast, but the hypocrisy is rich
DaleinCalgary
Member
I do not want a PC set up in my place anymore. And I refuse to deal with Windows anywhere besides work.
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RetroGamingUK
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SyberWolf
Member
they can just push a update to make discs not work anymore
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
TropicanaTwista
Member
Haaa, interesting that you say that. If I'm being honest, I rarely use rest mode as I don't think it really takes all that long to get back into a game on console if it's shut down. But I'm also playing metaphor on PS5 and find myself using it a good bit for the reasons you said.
Wolves hunt in packs
Member
Had a mid PC bulid i would say for 2 years 18-20, RX 590 and Ryzen 3600, was very cool playing games that didn't have 60fps option on console and back then most of them didn't have, so all in all good experience but to be honest since i got a PS5 and XSX i barely touch my PC, the simple truth is that i enjoy consoles much more and can't see myself buying a PC for gaming again even if it's the best platform.
brenobnfm
Member
Not only this is such an absurd scenario, most discs are playable without any patches, they have the 1.0 gold versions that reviewers play. If anything they deactivated all online infrastrucure for patches and online games, the discs value would skyrocket.
MisterXDTV
Member
He's just in desperation mode because PS5 Pro is coming out and Xbox is basically dead...
He's ready to jump ship as MS is going to pivot to OEM pre-built PCs
The idea of the decade, just like GamePass was...
LOL
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LimanimaPT
Member
-Simplicity. No need for multiple accounts for multiple store fronts
-More confortable. Only thing I need is a controller. I can play on a confortable sofa
-Multi user friendly. Don't need to buy the same game multiple times for different people
-Doesn't crash all the time (I might be wrong but my sons keep conplaining that the games crash on their pcs)
-I never feel the need to upgrade. I can always wait for the next iteraction
-I can play on my regular gigantic TV set
This reasons might be all wrong, but hey, those are my reasons.
-More confortable. Only thing I need is a controller. I can play on a confortable sofa
-Multi user friendly. Don't need to buy the same game multiple times for different people
-Doesn't crash all the time (I might be wrong but my sons keep conplaining that the games crash on their pcs)
-I never feel the need to upgrade. I can always wait for the next iteraction
-I can play on my regular gigantic TV set
This reasons might be all wrong, but hey, those are my reasons.
BlackTron
Member
Design game on PC, sell it on console = has a soul
Design game on PC, sell it on PC = cancer
mayham2199
Member
There’s a lot of little things you don’t realize like this until you switch to pc gaming. Like joining a party while you’re in a game on console is so damn easy. On pc with a controller it’s much harder. I’ve had my game crash on pc just doing alt tab. It wasn’t common but it has happened
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Parazels
Member
Games are developed on console devkits,
not on pc-cancer.
Don't try to confuse me, pc-devil!
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Cyberpunkd
Member
3 clicks of a mouse on Steam vs. two clicks on a pad? When was the last time you tried to game on PC?
Cyberpunkd
Member
They won’t.
-Upgrade process
-Dated Graphics topics are subjective cause we're past old school hardware
-the talk about hardware is less and less which is better to keep the hobby healthy
and reasonable
-your efforts on games and games only
-we simply beat more games and the experience is satisfying as a result.
-Dated Graphics topics are subjective cause we're past old school hardware
-the talk about hardware is less and less which is better to keep the hobby healthy
and reasonable
-your efforts on games and games only
-we simply beat more games and the experience is satisfying as a result.
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BlackTron
Member
Games are developed on console devkits,
not on pc-cancer.
Don't try to confuse me, pc-devil!
It's like I'm talking to my 12 year old self here. The land of make believe. I almost envy you, to be that way again.
Why he's sad?
Fanboys, answer us
This is some ‘teach the controversy’ shit. Pretty blatant strategy by MS here.
Madserb2023
Member
I used to be big on PCs back around the time Crysis 2 came out but I got tired of spending thousands for games to always have some kind of issue. The amount of games that I had which had really bad micro stuttering got really annoying and while the experience was still ultimately better than consoles at the time, it just wasn't enough to justify the price. I vividly remember playing Uncharted 2, which looked as good as anything I had played on PC at the time, and it ran without any issues. It's quite psychological, because I just simply have less tolerance with issues on PC than I do on console, mainly due to price. The thought of buying a 4090 to have even the slightest stutter would drive me mad
Dick Jones
Gold Member
You took him in the draft.
Playstation took TimDog.
Nintendo are on the clock and Cunt Eastwood is still on the board.
XXL
Member
I play alot of VR between Steam and PS5 and the expierence on PS5 is quite the contrast in comparison, it's a way better user experience.Spending 2,5K on a GPU and having to fucking troubleshoot and deal with severe stutters.
Is a fucking joke
My gaming pc will always be number 2
I like it.. but console gaming is way less glitchy
PSVR 2 just works on PS5 all the time with zero issues ever.