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[dmaul1114]

Where is the pain the ass then?

I use my PC every day:

1. push power button
2. power on the controller
3. use the controller to flick through the games
4. click on a game and it starts
5. play the game
6. exit the game by clicking quit in the menu
7. back in the games library again

Is this painful?

This is Steam big picture mode.

I try to avoid other launcher’s games or set them up to start from Steam. Can start Gamepass games from Steam, Epic games.

In rare occasions when a keyboard is needed I use a wireless keyboard with touch pad. That’s annoying. But hardly a pain in the ass. And it’s rare enough that the keyboard is always dusty.

For me I have a couple extra steps. I’m not having a separate PC for work and gaming—set up wise that’s not an issue as I have my desk near a 65” TV in my office/mancave, so the TV is just a third monitor essentially.

But I have to disable that display when working as I often have the TV on when working and windows will open on it sometimes etc. So to get a game going I have to reenable the display and then launch Steam in big picture mode.

But yeah, it’s not a huge pain in the ass or anything. I just haven’t bothered upgrading it (GTX 970, so very dated) as I realized:

1) I just don’t care about graphics/performance enough to pay the premium over consoles (though the gap is narrowing some).

2) Hate kb/m controls (or using them after working with them a ton of hours every week) so I miss that benefit.

3) Didn’t find any PC exclusive games I enjoyed. Just didn’t end up enjoy things like 4X games (Civilization etc.), RTS, MOBA, CRPGs, sim games etc. never liked competive shooters or PVP games in generation etc. So I was just playing the same games I’d be playing on console with a bit better graphics and higher frame rates—which are nice but not that big a deal to me.

4) Sony (and some times Nintendo) first party games end up getting a lot of my time most years so I just wasn’t gaming on PC much given the price I paid for it.

Anyway, I’m open to switching to PC down the road, but—as I posted before—it would take Sony porting their games to PC more consistently and quickly. I’m not waiting 2+ years post launch to play what end up being a ton of my favorite games each generation as someone that mostly enjoys narrative driven, cinematic games these days.

 

[TintoConCasera]

It’s really not and that’s just a lie.

For example, if you ever tried to get HDMI working with RE7 PC on a tv, you’d know it.

Already did, works on my machine just like any other game.

What problem did you have?

 

[Buggy Loop]

Don't lie, you also have to switch the tv to that hdmi port!!!

Don’t most modern TVs auto switch to signal?

 

[Firestartah]

One of the things I learned about myself while reading this thread is that...Weakness disgusts me.

 

[RJMacready73]

Because my PS5 controller sits beside my sofa position and when I click a single button on it, my TV, soundbar all switches straight to the game and I'm in playing in no time, no fuss, no fucking around, that's why I game on a PS5 instead of PC, it's seamless and unified

 

[GHG]

It’s really not and that’s just a lie.

For example, if you ever tried to get HDMI working with RE7 PC on a tv, you’d know it.

Huh?

I've never had an issue with that game. It's always worked fine for me when I've played it and I've had my PC's hooked up to TV's for well over a decade now.

Don’t most modern TVs auto switch to signal?

Both devices need to be HDMI CEC compliant (both the TV and the device you're using with it). Without niche of the niche hardware modifications, HDMI on PC isn't.

It's really a non-issue though, it's peak laziness for someone to say they can't be bothered to press a couple of buttons on a remote for their TV or receiver.

 

[killatopak]

I have a power budget. No, really. Some of these high end PC are gonna strain my house’ power limits.

 

[DenchDeckard]

There are a few steps between 4. and 5. There always is. Fucking around with settings to get it running just rights is always a part of it. Controller support is also not always that intuitive.

For me, i work behind a desk with a pc 5 days a week, 8 hours a day. I just don't want that experience when i want to unwind at home. With my Ps5 it was just “choose performance” and Go. With the Pro pre- ordered its just Go.

I understand the work thing, but choosing performance is no different than selecting low, medium, high or ultra for me. I also prefer the ability to go granular in certain circumstances.

Want it to be easy. Choose medium for franerate...notice it has 8x AF and change it to 16x.

It's really not hard.

The work thing I get though. Luckily I can completely disconnect myself from that.

 

[gamerEMdoc]

I game on both. I have a high end gaming PC but still play some games on consoles. Honestly, I still prefer consoles for every reason except framerate. I enjoy playing games on a huge TV. Gaming lounging on a comfy chair or couch is just more comfortable than sitting at a PC gaming chair for long periods. And probably the biggest reason for me is the plug and play aspect of consoles. If I buy an old game from the playstation store, I know its going to work bc playstation has one console they have to do QA for. For PC, if I get some gamecrashing bug IDK what setting is causing it, if its my PC, my hardware, some conflicting program, who knows. That's really the biggest thing.

But still... them framerates on a 4090...

I just wish there was a best of both worlds. Have a console launch with a high end graphics card, processor, and ssd, I don't care if its a $3000 console. I'd buy it.

 

[Fess]

Yet PC gamers try to push everyone to game solely on PC and throw fits when another store (platform) dares to present itself as an *option*, or a game requires a log in.

I don’t see anyone pushing everyone to solely play on PC? And there are lots of stores and launchers as options all the time. Platform/store complaints usually originates from exclusivity. Artificial walls. PC gamers in general wants the open nature of PCs to stay intact.

A secondary log in has been problematic in the past so that’s where those complaints are coming from. Old games locked from closed servers/services. Plus an external launcher or store account requirement might push you off onto a website to type with a keyboard, if you’re in the living room sitting there with a controller in your hands ready to play the game it’s going to be annoying.

 

[Rob_27]

Because I'm lazy. Plus don't get a lot of time these days. Just boot it up and I'm also sitting on the sofa.

 

[Fess]

For me I have a couple extra steps. I’m not having a separate PC for work and gaming—set up wise that’s not an issue as I have my desk near a 65” TV in my office/mancave, so the TV is just a third monitor essentially.

But I have to disable that display when working as I often have the TV on when working and windows will open on it sometimes etc. So to get a game going I have to reenable the display and then launch Steam in big picture mode.

But yeah, it’s not a huge pain in the ass or anything. I just haven’t bothered upgrading it (GTX 970, so very dated) as I realized:

1) I just don’t care about graphics/performance enough to pay the premium over consoles (though the gap is narrowing some).

2) Hate kb/m controls (or using them after working with them a ton of hours every week) so I miss that benefit.

3) Didn’t find any PC exclusive games I enjoyed. Just didn’t end up enjoy things like 4X games (Civilization etc.), RTS, MOBA, CRPGs, sim games etc. never liked competive shooters or PVP games in generation etc. So I was just playing the same games I’d be playing on console with a bit better graphics and higher frame rates—which are nice but not that big a deal to me.

4) Sony (and some times Nintendo) first party games end up getting a lot of my time most years so I just wasn’t gaming on PC much given the price I paid for it.

Anyway, I’m open to switching to PC down the road, but—as I posted before—it would take Sony porting their games to PC more consistently and quickly. I’m not waiting 2+ years post launch to play what end up being a ton of my favorite games each generation as someone that mostly enjoys narrative driven, cinematic games these days.

I considered using a long HDMI cable from my other PC first but I assumed there would be issues like you say. So I built a second PC instead. It’s been awesome. Tried Steam Link first, then a docked Steam Deck, but it wasn’t satisfying enough.

I swap between these setups depending on the game, no mouse and keyboard in the couch so there I play third person games with controller, then I play first person games with mouse and keyboard by the desk. A game like Indiana Jones which mix the two perspectives will be annoying, I hate aiming with an analog stick and third person WASD walking feels terrible, hopefully it’s just the ladders on the latter.

 

[Hohenheim]

So.. the conclusion is that console gamers who can afford high end PC's don't want to because they find it to be more hassle, and / or PC's remind them of work.

There you go, Jez.
Your co-host Rand Al 19 (the man with the million) could probably have told you this.
That guy got a 4090 rig and only use it to record their podcast!

 

[poppabk]

Maybe bc some ppl don't want to game with condescending dicks like some PCMR folks can be.

Yep that's the one thing I would like to see for PC gaming, that comradery.
Like when the PS5 specs were revealed and Xbox fans were rushing to point out that performance was more than just numbers. Or just the heart warming response of Playstation fans to Xbox struggling to sell consoles. Or Redfall. Or Concord. Or Starfield. Or the Activision aquisition. Or switch specs. Or the WiiU.
It's just beautiful to see, and it saddens me that all the condescending pricks are playing on PC.

 

[missiles]

Windows. Simple as that.

 

[RoboFu]

Ehh for me it's more the fact that I can play games I bought off steam as far back as the ps3 era and possibly earlier by just installing them. If I could install Ridge Racer 8 on my ps5 I'd be a happy camper.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

It's a pain in the fucking ass to have a gaming PC.

Hence why Steam Deck is so appealing.

It's a console.

 

[PandaOk]

I don’t see anyone pushing everyone to solely play on PC? And there are lots of stores and launchers as options all the time. Platform/store complaints usually originates from exclusivity. Artificial walls. PC gamers in general wants the open nature of PCs to stay intact.

A secondary log in has been problematic in the past so that’s where those complaints are coming from. Old games locked from closed servers/services. Plus an external launcher or store account requirement might push you off onto a website to type with a keyboard, if you’re in the living room sitting there with a controller in your hands ready to play the game it’s going to be annoying.

So why do PC fanboys effectively want PC to BE a closed platform because anything that remotely challenges steam is met with vitriol (see EGS). They want options in the technical sense, but not in a practical sense. In reality they just want PC to win and steam to dominate, and console exclusives to end up on PC, just like any other fanboy. PC being open is an incidental selling point of their platform of choice, but their wants remain the same.

We’ve all seen the out of proportion vitriol at anything that challenges steam, the demands and opining for PlayStation to go day and date (knowing full well it would destroy their business long term just like it has MS). This isn’t rocket science just fanboys being fanboys, except they’re a bit more arrogant about it.

 

[diffusionx]

Already did, works on my machine just like any other game.

What problem did you have?

Huh?

I've never had an issue with that game. It's always worked fine for me when I've played it and I've had my PC's hooked up to TV's for well over a decade now.

“I had problem XYZ when trying to this on PC”

“Worked in my machine, must be a you problem”

This is why nobody likes to talk to PC people. Y’all don’t get it.

 

[TintoConCasera]

“I had problem XYZ when trying to this on PC”

“Worked in my machine, must be a you problem”

This is why nobody likes to talk to PC people. Y’all don’t get it.

You are the one who refuses to tell what was the problem lol.

 

[RJMacready73]

The only thing I truly miss out by gaming exclusively on consoles is the modding community, loved what I could turn vanilla Skyrim into

 

[Portugeezer]

Oh come on, do people want a reason as to why I don't own an air fryer? Or how about a billiards table?

 

[GHG]

“I had problem XYZ when trying to this on PC”

“Worked in my machine, must be a you problem”

This is why nobody likes to talk to PC people. Y’all don’t get it.

Something like a specific game not working over HDMI is one of the strangest things I've ever heard about in all my years of gaming on PC.

Hence you're getting questions.

 

[diffusionx]

Something like a specific game not working over HDMI is one of the strangest things I've ever heard about in all my years of gaming on PC.

Hence you're getting questions.

the HDR didn't work. If I turned it on the textures would be all jacked up. If I somehow got the right combiantion of settings on Windows and RE for it to work, it didnt work the next time I booted it up. You can google and find other people having these problems. HDR was broken on Windows 10 for years, it still might be. This was always a well known problem with Windows, and MS released update after update to try to fix it.

Eventually I gave up and just played through the game on PS. The point is, it's not as seamless/easy/intuitive as console, stuff does go wrong, and it's not designed for that interface anyway. Even the Steam TV interface is a hack, in the end.

 

[FrankWza]

I blame/credit the PS5 Pro for these topics. It's really getting to people. Amazing

 

[GHG]

the HDR didn't work. If I turned it on the textures would be all jacked up. If I somehow got the right combiantion of settings on Windows and RE for it to work, it didnt work the next time I booted it up. You can google and find other people having these problems. HDR was broken on Windows 10 for years, it still might be. This was always a well known problem with Windows, and MS released update after update to try to fix it.

Eventually I gave up and just played through the game on PS. The point is, it's not as seamless/easy/intuitive as console, stuff does go wrong, and it's not designed for that interface anyway. Even the Steam TV interface is a hack, in the end.

HDR having issues makes far more sense, particularly when it was during it's infancy on PC (I just gave up on it entirely in the early days and just left everything in SDR).

That's very different to HDMI issues, unless it was a typo?

 

[Hohenheim]

It's a pain in the fucking ass to have a gaming PC.

This, and lots of replies here makes me think of this guy.

But seriously, why does it matter so much for lots of people how other folks play their games?
It's so weird.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

This, and lots of replies here makes me think of this guy.

But seriously, why does it matter so much for lots of people how other folks play their games?
It's so weird.

Because Jez is an Xbox mouthpiece and Xbox is getting its teeth kicked in and Jez was used as a sacrifice by Xbox to try and get people to stop buying Playstations and buy a cheap PC to get into the Xbox/MS ecosystem

 

[GHG]

Because Jez is an Xbox mouthpiece and Xbox is getting its teeth kicked in and Jez was used as a sacrifice by Xbox to try and get people to stop buying Playstations and buy a cheap PC to get into the Xbox/MS ecosystem

They actually think people are going to take the advice of Jez Corden?

 

[Fess]

So why do PC fanboys effectively want PC to BE a closed platform because anything that remotely challenges steam is met with vitriol (see EGS).

Steam is the best and most supported and feature rich launcher so that’s why people want games there. And Steam big picture mode is sublime.
Everybody else is simply behind.

And Epic do exclusives so that’s met with anger, same with Ubisoft.
The closed nature is not something anybody want on PC, goes against everything. But GOG is there if you want full openess, rarely frowned upon except when updates are missing.

 

[Hohenheim]

Because Jez is an Xbox mouthpiece and Xbox is getting its teeth kicked in and Jez was used as a sacrifice by Xbox to try and get people to stop buying Playstations and buy a cheap PC to get into the Xbox/MS ecosystem

Is this for real?
I don't follow any "insiders", except listening to a few podcasts now and then.
Is it really like you describe, or are you joking?
And if you're serious, why??
Why would this Jez guy do that? Is he working for MS?

I have no clue about any of these things. I just like to play games.
But it's very fascinating if stuff like you describe Is actually going on. And super weird!

 

[poppabk]

the HDR didn't work. If I turned it on the textures would be all jacked up. If I somehow got the right combiantion of settings on Windows and RE for it to work, it didnt work the next time I booted it up. You can google and find other people having these problems. HDR was broken on Windows 10 for years, it still might be. This was always a well known problem with Windows, and MS released update after update to try to fix it.

Eventually I gave up and just played through the game on PS. The point is, it's not as seamless/easy/intuitive as console, stuff does go wrong, and it's not designed for that interface anyway. Even the Steam TV interface is a hack, in the end.

Thankfully it just worked on console.

Well with a bit of tweaking you can get it to work, shame no console player will ever have it look good because we know they hate having to make any changes and have all their TV's set to store demo settings still.

Resident Evil 7: Biohazard - HDR Settings

Resident Evil 7: Biohazard HDR analysis and HDR settings recommendations

www.hdrgamer.com

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

They actually think people are going to take the advice of Jez Corden?

Xbox to a fault of their own deeply cares about its Social Media "army" so they will be monitoring feedback

Is this for real?
I don't follow any "insiders", except listening to a few podcasts now and then.
Is it really like you describe, or are you joking?
And if you're serious, why??
Why would this Jez guy do that? Is he working for MS?

I have no clue about any of these things. I just like to play games.
But it's very fascinating if stuff like you describe Is actually going on. And super weird!

Xbox tells Jez to jump he doesn't even ask how high he is already in the air hoping he did well

 

[Edmund]

I used to splurge and build new pcs every 2 years when I was in school. I'd save up all my pocket money and I built new PCs around the latest graphics card. I had the gtx 680, Radeon 7970, GTX 980, and I watched the reveal of the first ray tracing card and bought into the hype.

I immediately placed an order for the rtx 2080 and build a pc around that card. (i5-9600, 32gb ram). It was a lot of money. I just started working as a piano teacher in a school and the pay wasn't fantastic as I was just starting out.

I remember blowing slightly more than my entire month's salary on that rig plus a Dell monitor.

Of course I got excited when it all arrived. I remember firing up Battlefield 5 and cranking all graphics to max at 1440p including Ray Tracing and my god. The game ran like a slide show.


Did i just waste an entire month's salary to play battlefield 5 at single digit fps?

It was pretty damn disappointing. I had to lower Ray Tracing all the way to Low to finally get a stable frame rate. And even then it wasn't a smooth 60 fps and I eventually turned off ray tracing.

I also reinstalled all my old games to run them at ultra settings and I realised that was all I was doing. I wasn't really enjoying my games. I was running my games on ultra to see how they look, expecting them to blow my mind. But it didn't really.

At that moment, I just decided that pc gaming is just a huge money sink and moved on to gaming on my ps4 pro exclusively and now, the ps5. (waiting for the ps5 pro)

I'm almost as old as HeisenbergFX4 's son now and while I make a decent living as a piano teacher and collecting rental from a house my parents and I bought, I'd rather put the cash I'm earning into fixed deposits/ blue chip shares to earn dividends to make more money.

Oh and of course, unlike most PCMR people, I actually buy my games instead of pirating them or waiting for it to drop on gamepass.

As mentioned in another thread, I know people with 4080 and 4090 gpus who refuse to buy games even though they are making a decent living.

They beg people to buy games on steam so they can use steam family share and play the games other people bought or they pirate them. And of course all they do is hope every game goes on gamepass day 1. Disgusting pieces of shit.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Not having to worry about viruses, small things like not worrying about sound, or updates on a printer, and I’m convinced gaming is meant to be played on a recliner

 

[Hohenheim]

Xbox tells Jez to jump he doesn't even ask how high he is already in the air hoping he did well

I know from other threads here that you're well informed in the world of gaming, so I believe you even though this Jez-stuff sounds so strange.
I mean, what does he get out of this? (Unless he is payed lots of money from MS that is)

The whole defending of brands and console/platform war is so very, very weird to me.

 

[Edmund]

Not having to worry about viruses, small things like not worrying about sound, or updates on a printer, and I’m convinced gaming is meant to be played on a recliner

I splurged on a pure leather recliner sofa (3 + 2 seater) and air-conditioning for my living room and gaming is bliss on my 65 inch LG G1.

 

[Leviathicus]

POV: you just told a PC gamer that you went to the movie theater with your friends instead of watching it from your pc.

 

[Paulistano]

I have friends who can't handle a pc at all always asking things... how to configure, how to use, how to install, this type of people who don't know how to use a pc should make a serious effort to learn or just use a console.

 

[FrankWza]

I have friends who can't handle a pc at all always asking things... how to configure, how to use, how to install, this type of people who don't know how to use a pc should make a serious effort to learn or just use a console.

I'd rather be friends with this person than the one who bought off the rack parts, watched a youtube video and "built" a PC and then thinks they know more than Mark Cerny

 

[Lord Malachite]

I don't feel comfortable gaming on a PC. The screen is smaller and it is running other programs in the background. My computer desk is more for work and online shenanigans than a place of play. I don't have a setup where I could hookup my PC to my TV and I have no desire to do other PC things on my TV.

I love just playing a game with no hassle beyond downloading from the store or disc and going. I don't give one crap about mods. I don't want to have to keep upgrading and updating my hardware more than once a "generation". And when I do, I just hook the new console up and sign into my account. I don't have to spend time optimizing the whole OS and optimizing drivers and configurations just to play a game .

The hardware is cheaper and more convenient. Most games aren't pricey as I am fine waiting for a sale on most titles. I don't care about VR and tons of periphereals. I have enough console games in my backlog to last a decade or more.

PC gaming is just not for me at all. There is simply nothing PC gaming offers me that makes me want to dump consoles and I see nothing on the horizon either. If other people want to game on PC, that's good for them and I hope they're having a good time. This mindset of only gaming on PC or console is the "correct" way to game and anyone who does things differently is some kind of idiot or otherwise terrible person needs to die as quickly as possible. There are different strokes for different folks and what matters is people are gaming in the way that makes them happy.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I don't feel comfortable gaming on a PC. The screen is smaller and it is running other programs in the background. My computer desk is more for work and online shenanigans than a place of play. I don't have a setup where I could hookup my PC to my TV and I have no desire to do other PC things on my TV.

I love just playing a game with no hassle beyond downloading from the store or disc and going. I don't give one crap about mods. I don't want to have to keep upgrading and updating my hardware more than once a "generation". And when I do, I just hook the new console up and sign into my account. I don't have to spend time optimizing the whole OS and optimizing drivers and configurations just to play a game .

The hardware is cheaper and more convenient. Most games aren't pricey as I am fine waiting for a sale on most titles. I don't care about VR and tons of periphereals. I have enough console games in my backlog to last a decade or more.

PC gaming is just not for me at all. There is simply nothing PC gaming offers me that makes me want to dump consoles and I see nothing on the horizon either. If other people want to game on PC, that's good for them and I hope they're having a good time. This mindset of only gaming on PC or console is the "correct" way to game and anyone who does things differently is some kind of idiot or otherwise terrible person needs to die as quickly as possible. There are different strokes for different folks and what matters is people are gaming in the way that makes them happy.

I agree. Good post.

I can understand people gaming on a good PC for pure power, mods, all kind of unique games on Steam/GOG, but for the most part console gaming is fine and cheaper an no fuss.

It's similar to watching sports or movies or Netflix. I bet most people do it on a big TV on their couch than sitting on a desk chair watching it on their monitor. They can totally do it from a PC set up on a desk, but most prefer the living room set up.

 

[FunkMiller]

Gap hasn’t narrowed.

To me it has. As consoles have become increasingly complicated. The amount of fucking downloading, updating and settings changes you need to make on them now is getting to the point where it’s as bad as PC gaming. For worse fidelity and performance. At the same time it’s become much easier to set a PC up for gaming on a couch.

Consoles are still the easier option, but not sure how much longer that’ll be the case.

Add that to the rampant greed being displayed by the console hardware manufacturers in terms of high prices, bad games, and PC ports, and I’m glad I made the switch just to the PC this year.

 

[mdkirby]

Many reasons. I own every console, and a £4000 MacBook Pro (which I never use for gaming outside of blood on the clocktower). Despite all that I pretty much only use the ps5 to play. Steam deck I got literally just for a few point and click adventures.

1. I want to play from my comfy sofa sat with my wife, not shut away in a back room of the house.
2. I want to game on something I don’t associate with work
3. I want something quick, simple and super convenient, literally I push the button on the controller, the tv turns on and the console boots and in a few seconds I can be in a game
4. I don’t need to fuck around with all sorts of nonsense drivers
5. My PlayStation runs as well as it did when I bought it, it’s not full of bloat and slowing to a crawl.
6. A new game released 5 years into the cycle will run just as well as one newly released 5 years ago.
7. Games are typically optimised most towards PlayStation, and whilst anecdotal, as I don’t play on pc, nearly every major pc release seems to launche in a terrible state.
8. Great ui/ux, hyper focussed on just the two things I want from it, games and media center, and switching between the two functions is lightning fast, you can flick from a game to a show or vice versa in literally 3 seconds.
9. The controllers, dual sense is a superb controller.
10. The games, sure, a select few PlayStation games come to pc now, years after release, but yeah…the games.
11. Eco system. I now have about 600 games on my PlayStation account, so pretty locked in with the library.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

The amount of fucking downloading, updating

This happens overnight without you having to think about it

 

[FunkMiller]

This happens overnight without you having to think about it

No it doesn’t. How many times do you buy a game, only to have to sit there and wait for a download?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

No it doesn’t. How many times do you buy a game, only to have to sit there and wait for a download?

Not often

Do you have a setting disabled for automatic updates?

 

[FunkMiller]

Not often

Do you have a setting disabled for automatic updates?

Dude. I’m not claiming consoles are as bad as PC… but I’ve been console gaming since the 80s, and to try to make out that consoles haven’t become more complicated and fiddly to play games on over the years is just crazy. They’re essentially bespoke PC architecture anyway these days. There’s a lot more involved in buying and playing a console game. The days of just slapping the disc or cartridge in are long gone - and that’s only going to get worse with the greedy fucking companies trying to kill physical.

Marry with that with an increasing ease of being able to hook a PC up to a Tv and play, and that gap is closing.

 

[Saturn Dragon]

As a PC gamer, I'd advise console gamers to just stay away from it.

...it turns you into a E-Peen obsessed, FOMO fuckhead.

The constant desire for an extra 20fps, regardless of the cost, is toxic as fuck.

Playing games becomes secondary to the technology.

It's another game itself. I call it the "Setting up and config championship"

 

[Justin9mm]

I have a PC with a 4070 and still do the vast majority of my gaming on consoles and handhelds (and Steam Deck). The user experience is much slicker, there is generally less fucking about trying to get games to run, you can have a physical collection on a shelf and the consoles are powerful enough now that there is not a noticeable difference from the high settings in many releases. You get the occasional game where the PC version just blows console out the water (Cyberpunk, Black Myth) and some genres are just better on PC (RTS games, Baldur's Gate 3), but that's what the 4070 is for.

^This. I have a nice theatre room setup, I also don't want to connect the PC to my TV, I like pressing the button on my controller and resuming straight into a game on my recliner in front of my 85" TV. No turning on PC/loading windows, no keyboard and mouse, no checking settings, no weird crashes. I also have OCD, I spend more time tinkering with PC game settings then I care for. Consoles offer a simplicity experience. Sometimes I like to not have choices. Booting up the PC and games is a fucking chore to me.