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Joe Biden predicts he will run for president in 2020, but not yet 'committed'
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Darryl M R
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Biden + Michelle Obama
VendettaRed07
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It would be better for the party if he stayed out of the way. His chance was this election. He opted out.
We need a clown car and let the voters sort it out
We need a clown car and let the voters sort it out
BrutishMrFish
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If you really want introspection, attributing the Democrats' loss across the board to anti-establishment sentiment isn't helping because it isn't accurate. Obama neglected the 50 state strategy and the state of the party since 2012.
Bernie lost to Hillary, while Ted Cruz barely qualified as competition to Trump in the Republican primary, so anti-establishment candidates aren't the surefire win that you think they would be. Sure, it might be a good way to go, but the DNC going back to the 50 state strategy is more important.
Extremely.
If you want to talk about margins, she lost states that Obama won by more than 5 points in one election. Those are the margins that matter. I don't care about the total vote count and you shouldn't either.
Clearly, this party has a problem with messaging *and* the messengers. It's time to move on, I never want to hear from the Clintons again. They had their chance and her defeat was resounding and clear- Time to move on from the old guard.
dehydratedbabies
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I would not support him for president. I'm embarrassed by the idea.
Gnome Scat
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Yes Joe, you could've had it this year.
Back-In-Black
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Or to sum it all up, Hilary was a terrible candidate.
Listen, I loved Hilary, I thought she would've made a great President, I loved her WAY more than Sanders but her loss can be placed squarely at her feet. Hilary is and always will be a terrible campaigner. She lost to Donald fucking Trump, any politician worth their salt should have been able to easily trounce him. She let this man explain away sexual assault at a national live debate, just stop.
Hilary is the sole reason for her loss, not the establishment, or Alt-right news, or Russia, or anything else. Shit happens during an election, a good candidate is able to adapt to these changing circumstances and push forward. Hilary was never able to adapt, up until the last debate we were still talking about her fucking emails. Trump managed to deflect his recorded bragging about sexual assault in less than a week and push forward with a new narrative. This being after the Khans, his purple heart comments, birtherism, general comments about women, Iraq war opposition lying, etc. Trump ALWAYS managed to change the narrative if he didn't like it. Hilary couldn't change her hair color without taking five months and a committee to decide the best option.
How come? Sour grapes 🍇?
BocoDragon
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I'm thinking this is liberal "meme magic" at work.
Joe knows he is the hero of a popular meme, and that's the strength he needs to run.
Joe knows he is the hero of a popular meme, and that's the strength he needs to run.
The Albatross
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Sell Pepe memes, buy Biden memes!
It would be deeply hilarious if 2020 democratic list is Biden, Clinton, and Sanders
Clinton ain't running again for any office. She's done.
Mr. Wonderful
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Yes. Please happen.
I know he'll be old, but unless there's a dark horse Gen Xer to bridge the generations, give me some Joe.
I know he'll be old, but unless there's a dark horse Gen Xer to bridge the generations, give me some Joe.
Good Job Bob
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Hillary is President of the woods now.
Extra Sauce
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I have a feeling the 2020 race for the Democratic Party's nomination is going to be a huge mess.
I think she lost to a woodpecker.
Darth Pinche
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Yes!!!! How can I help now?
Aaronology
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Actual policy is of no concern to many on either side of the aisle, sadly.
NyMartin90
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Another person of the establishment, I think the DNC has to try a little harder now with the shifting bases.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Oh, it's gonna be a clown car.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I am all for him running in the primary, and if he makes it to the general, then I will vote for him, but I would like to see the other democratic candidates before revving up his coronation as YASSS KING.
And that's exactly what the party needs.
No more coronations... Get some young blood in there and have them duke it out. May the best man/woman win.
Angelus Errare
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This.
People crying about "teh establishment" are first time voters I'm sure of it.
Pretty much. You can tell policies mean fuck all to people. Gut feeling just like republican voters they look down upon.
dehydratedbabies
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Sour grapes about what? Biden running is as bad an idea as Hillary 2016 was.
Why? Last I checked the most dirt someone could bring up on Biden is plagerism unlike Hillary. And he has charisma that she doesn't.
NYR
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Back-In-Black
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Ninja Scooter
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He can still go!
Aaronology
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On the flip side, and at the risk of going against my opinion already expressed in this thread: if gut feelings and Biden's stardom is what gets people on the left who don't give a shit about policy (and his political history) out to vote the same way their counterparts on the right do, so be it.
But the general response in this thread and by many liberals reacting to this news sort of makes all the complaining from the Left wrt/Clinton sound incredibly hollow in hindsight (especially in her relation to Sanders).
And this is why Biden would be fine if we have issues w the field, he's charismatic.
Hexa
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Teflon Don is probably an exception to every rule in existence.
Yup. Then pick someone from the Sanders wing as VP and they'll be set. No clue who though.
SenjutsuSage
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I guarantee people Trump will not beat this guy. If he runs, Trump is one term President. Please run, Joe!
NYR
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You're not wrong. 37% is pretty high. I would expect it 10 points lower easily.
More proof that to most people policy doesn't actually matter.
Remember, these are the same people that pretended that Bernie and Hillarys policies were super far apart during the primaries.
Knuckle Sandwich
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Your time was now, Joe. You actually would have campaigned and won. :-(
dehydratedbabies
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If "charisma" and a lack of "dirt" were of primary importance for 2020 I'd be supporting Dwayne Johnson for president.
Hexa
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VendettaRed07
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Can we just forget about normal rules and conventions
Let's drop all the assumptions of who can and cannot win based on whatever random reasons we assert because clearly none of us have any clue what the fuck we are talking about
Let's drop all the assumptions of who can and cannot win based on whatever random reasons we assert because clearly none of us have any clue what the fuck we are talking about
Unless everything Michelle and people who know her have said about her running is a lie there's no way she's ever running for public office.
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