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John Frusciante more than likely has quit the Red Hot Chili Peppers

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YagizY

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http://www.musicradar.com/news/guit...left-red-hot-chili-peppers-says-source-229551

It would appear that John Frusciante is no longer working with the Red Hot Chili Peppers - so says a source close to the band in an exclusive interview with MusicRadar.

"Josh Klinghoffer has been playing with the group for a couple of months now," says the source. "Optimistically, the Peppers are trying to lock down a replacement for John, who has apparently quit.

"Mentally, John checked out a long time ago. He's interested in doing his own thing, his own albums - the whole big rock band machinery just doesn't appeal to him anymore."

The news that Frusciante has quit can hardly be viewed as surprising. During a podcast interview with MusicRadar earlier this year, the guitarist was lost for words during a routine question about the status of the group. He paused for nearly 30 seconds (later edited) before awkwardly stating that the Peppers had "no plans."

Frusciante also refused to be introduced to be as 'guitarist for the Red Hot Chili Peppers,' preferring instead to be called, simply, 'guitarist.'

Frusciante up and quit before

This wouldn't be the first time Frusciante has split from the band: Overwhelmed by the success of Blood Sugar Sex Magik, he quit in 1992 and descended into heroin addiction. After kicking drugs cold turkey, he rejoined the Peppers in 1999 for the album Californication (the group had fired his replacement, Dave Navarro, a year earlier).

Still, the past decade hasn't been an easy ride for Frusciante. Intensely private, he has issued a number of wildly experimental, introspective solo recordings - a stark contrast to the over-the-top, circus-like antics of life in the Chili Peppers. Rumors of his commitment to the band resurfaced late last month when, during an interview with Classic Rock magazine, drummer Chad Smith, responding to a question about Frusciante's involvement, stated: "Well...at this time I can't talk about that. I have been told to stay away from the John questions."

Klinghoffer's a well-liked LA player

Oddly enough, Klinghoffer is not only friends with the Chili Peppers but with Fruscinate as well. "Josh has been on everybody's radar for quite some time," says the source. "He's extremely popular within a certain circle of LA musicians.

"The big thing right now that the band will have to consider is, Can Josh write great songs? Can he help push them forward? Everybody knows he can play, but the Peppers need somebody who can come up with amazing material and get them moving again."

This guy made on of my favorite albums of all time: Blood Sugar Sex Magik. However, I have to be honest, he pisses me off so much. I feel like he's disattached himself farther farther from the band in the last few years with his solo stuff (which is really not my cup of tea considering he is a terrible singer). Best of luck to him but I hate when people quit stuff when it's "too big." I never understood that mentality. My band is so popular, I don't want to deal with it? That's lame.
 
Bootaaay said:
Awesome, more time for Frusciante solo stuff or an album with Omar Rodriguez Lopez.
Yes.
YagizY said:
Best of luck to him but I hate when people quit stuff when it's "too big." I never understood that mentality. My band is so popular, I don't want to deal with it? That's lame.
It probably has less to do with popularity and more to do with him getting tired of playing the same manufactured bullshit every night. The dude has an extensive body of work that goes well beyond RHCP, he probably really does just want to do something else.
 

Cindres

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Bootaaay said:
Awesome, more time for Frusciante solo stuff or an album with Omar Rodriguez Lopez.

Fuck that would be incredible.
But yeah, this is bad news. Chilis are 3 guys who are amazing at their instruments.. and Anthony.
Without John i don't think it'll be the same, him and Flea just have amazing on stage chemistry during their solos and general performances.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
Bootaaay said:
Awesome, more time for Frusciante solo stuff or an album with Omar Rodriguez Lopez.
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YagizY said:
This guy made on of my favorite albums of all time: Blood Sugar Sex Magik. However, I have to be honest, he pisses me off so much. I feel like he's disattached himself farther farther from the band in the last few years with his solo stuff (which is really not my cup of tea considering he is a terrible singer). Best of luck to him but I hate when people quit stuff when it's "too big." I never understood that mentality. My band is so popular, I don't want to deal with it? That's lame.


I think he brought some fresh life into the band with Californication but the energy from that seems to have waned on the last album.

As long as he keeps his solo stuff more accessible like "Shadows Collide" and "Record only Water" then I look forward to some more of that but most of it is just utter crap.
 
I believe it when it's official. I can't see them continuing without him though. They've said numerous times how the 4 of them are the RHCP. I'd hope they'd all just try something new.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
That must be either really awkward or a really easy transition considering how much John and Josh work together.

How about they both forget about the Chili Peppers and do another Ataxia album?
 
i'm done with RHCP anyway, but i like him as a guitar player. His own albums have some real gems. his singing takes time to get usd to though (not sure i will ever get used to it)
 

eggandI

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Damn this sucks. RHCP is one of the few rock bands I still listen to. Get these fucking shitty hipster bands out of my face and give me some new RHCP.
 

YagizY

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happyfunball said:
I think he brought some fresh life into the band with Californication but the energy from that seems to have waned on the last album.

As long as he keeps his solo stuff more accessible like "Shadows Collide" and "Record only Water" then I look forward to some more of that but most of it is just utter crap.

I agree with this so much. I remember when I bought his first solo album "Niandra Lades and Usually Just a T-Shirt" and after I listened to it I was so pissed I spent any money on it. It was terrible.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
Finally, I've heard that he's wanted to leave for years now and I'm glad he finally did it. He is such a wasted talent with that band it's not even funny.

I await for more solo stuff and more stuff with Rodriguez, but I'm sure that will happen when TMV or ATDI actually get some money in the bank to do some more recording.
 

eggandI

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wenis said:
Finally, I've heard that he's wanted to leave for years now and I'm glad he finally did it. He is such a wasted talent with that band it's not even funny.

I await for more solo stuff and more stuff with Rodriguez, but I'm sure that will happen when TMV or ATDI actually get some money in the bank to do some more recording.
Lol? And he won't be wasted with the dude from fucking Mars Volta? his solo stuff was pretty bad so I'm not expecting much from whatever he puts out post-RHCP.
 

JimiNutz

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Stadium Arcadium was pretty shit and Johns guitar work was the only positive to be heard on the album imo.

So long as he doesn't get back on the drugs, and continues to produce amazing solo stuff, I don't care that he's left.
 

NGAMER9

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Ugh, I love Red Hot Chili Peppers, and John Frusciante is the main reason for that. It'll be a huge bummer if he goes.

Then again, if he makes more Ataxia albums or a new project, it'll probably more than make up for it. Still, it's a shame. I really hope RHCP don't bring Dave Navarro back though. As much as I like him in Jane's Addiction, he never seemed to fit the band to me.
 

eggandI

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riskVSreward said:
Nope, he likes their improvisational style and adds a lot to their music.

Is that what they are calling fucking around with repetitive riffs, whiny vocals and terrible song structure, improvisational nowadays? Ah well. Maybe they will bring Navarro back, so it could be for the better.
 
eggandI said:
Is that what they are calling fucking around with repetitive riffs, whiny vocals and terrible song structure, improvisational nowadays?
Apples and oranges my friend. Although it is clear you have very little knowledge of TMV.
 
NutJobJim said:
Stadium Arcadium was pretty shit and Johns guitar work was the only positive to be heard on the album imo.

So long as he doesn't get back on the drugs, and continues to produce amazing solo stuff, I don't care that he's left.

Eh I disagree. Stadium Arcadium was different, but it was awesome in its own way. It's nothing like their previous work, but I didn't really expect it to and was pleasantly surprised.

Anyway RHCP will still live on, but it won't be the same anymore that's for sure. Not like they'll have a new album out anytime soon anyway.
 

msdstc

Incredibly Naive
Ughh, without John I'm not going to be expecting too much. I felt like this was happening, it just doesn't seem like he enjoys the band.
 

thirty

Banned
he'll come back when he's broke, they always do. why don't you shoot up more of your success john and have flea pull you out of your grave like he did last time.
 
He seriously won't ever need to come back, he's probably made a lot of money and isn't an addict any more so he can hopefully keep clean. His solo stuff probably does okay and he might join The Mars Volta outright. Of course when RHCP fall back into a rut and need some good songs again they will probably be begging for him to come back.

Flea and Chad should hire Trey Spruance without telling Anthony, just for the epic lulz and awkwardness when he finds out,
 

msdstc

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thirty said:
he'll come back when he's broke, they always do. why don't you shoot up more of your success john and have flea pull you out of your grave like he did last time.

I don't think that's what it is anymore...
 
Definitely disappointing news. On the other hand, despite it's lack of commercial success, I thoroughly enjoy One Hot Minute, so I think the Red Hots can produce good music without Frusciante.
 

StuBurns

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Hardly shocking, he's been looking to quit touring for years, I'd be shocked if he doesn't find his way on to the record in some form. Anyway, the band are wank, his solo stuff is amazing, so it's good news (although 'news' is a little loose, this is a fairly old rumor already).
 

YagizY

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eggandI said:
Is that what they are calling fucking around with repetitive riffs, whiny vocals and terrible song structure, improvisational nowadays? Ah well. Maybe they will bring Navarro back, so it could be for the better.

I feel the same way, I have no idea why the internets has such a hard-on for The Mars Volta, they are fucking awful.

John's most memorable stuff (taking into account his solo stuff) is still Blood Sugar Sex Magik and Californication in my opinion. I didn't dislike By the Way or Stadium Arcadium but I did feel they were a step down from previous stuff they made.
 
YagizY said:
I feel the same way, I have no idea why the internets has such a hard-on for The Mars Volta, they are fucking awful.
I was unaware that "the internets" was a demographic. Fuck, it's one thing not to like a band but all of his criticisms, as vague and immature as they were, were completely unfounded and wrong. I could say RHCP is just repetitive riffs, whiny vocals, and terrible song structure and it actually suits them better.
 
Stadium Arcadium was a good album. There is a difference between "shit" and "not the band's best". The RHCP that released Blood Sugar are long gone but that doesn't automatically make everything they release terrible.
 

YagizY

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riskVSreward said:
I was unaware that "the internets" was a demographic. Fuck, it's one thing not to like a band but all of his criticisms, as vague and immature as they were, were completely unfounded and wrong. I could say RHCP is just repetitive riffs, whiny vocals, and terrible song structure and it actually suits them better.

Yeah, but I've actually listened to a couple albums by TMV and I feel that way. I apologize that I don't like TMV. Not everyone can have your taste. If you feel that way about RHCP, more power to you.

And how is "repetitive riffs, whiny vocals and terrible song structure" an immature evaluation of that band? Immature would be "OMG MARS VOLTA SUCKS BECAUSE THEY ARE SHITTY!!!"
 

Rktk

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RHCP could disband tomorrow and I wouldn't be too fussed. Either way, I think they can manage without him.
 
YagizY said:
Yeah, but I've actually listened to a couple albums by TMV and I feel that way. I apologize that I don't like TMV. Not everyone can have your taste. If you feel that way about RHCP, more power to you.
It isn't about me or what I like, stop trying to make me the bad guy. I don't care that you don't like a band I like, I'm sure if we waged a long enough list war we would find a band we both like.
And how is "repetitive riffs, whiny vocals and terrible song structure" an immature evaluation of that band? Immature would be "OMG MARS VOLTA SUCKS BECAUSE THEY ARE SHITTY!!!"
It's immature in the sense that no mature person would consider it a valid criticism. "Repetitive riffs" can be used to describe anything, so much music is repetitive. "Whiny vocals" doesn't make any sense, singing in higher octaves =/= whiny. If that were so, I guess Rush is pretty fucking whiny. I could consider "whiny lyrics" at least logical, but that would be more suited to RHCP because a lot of their lyrics are about love, suicide, depression, and other stupid things people would typically whine about. Finally, "terrible song structure." That's about the only thing here I could debate. On one hand you have RHCP, whose library consists mostly of 4/4 time signatures, following a typical Verse, chorus, verse, chorus structure. TMV meanwhile, uses a vast array of time signatures and different overall structures throughout. I prefer music that takes a risk, does something unexpected every now and then. The biggest risk RHCP takes when straying from their formula is maybe the occasional key change.

It doesn't matter anyway, and it isn't a worthwhile debate. Music is art, art is subjective and open to each individual's interpretation. What's tried and true to some is garden variety to others. What's nonsense and noise to one is experimental and bold to another.
 
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