partyphone
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still unclear on why this was the thing that did it. especially for McCain.
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John McCain withdraws support for Donald Trump
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bobbychalkers
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~Tumbling down tumbling down tumbling dooowwn!!~
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Same reason everyone else is jumping ship: this is gross and disgusting to a demographic the GOP actually has to care about
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
He's just following the rest of the lemmings.
Politicians are all calculated moves. That much is inherent with the subject being discussed.
I can congratulate him for saying he won't vote for a facist. I mean it took a while, but at least he finally got there. People don't care about racism in the usa. So have to give props in this fucked up system whenever you see someone not supporting hitler.
It's too little, too late. And it's not just trump that has these views. But trump represents their rhetotic, concentrated. So it's nice to see these folks realize it. Sure they will come back with equally divisive shit to ruin the country, but that's the Republican party. Backwards racists. They will have to compromise on their racism. That's good by me.
echoshifting
Banned
Fair enough.
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thepotatoman
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Now to see if republicans still have the motivation to go to the polls with only the downballot to vote for. They'll need a lot more than the ones that vote in the midterms.
It was going to be something, I think party members were waiting for it, so it's less this specific thing and more that it snowballed and now GOP members are more comfortable moving away from Trump since it's become a group effort. He's on tape and its explicit, not the usual dance-around "not a career politician" bullshit.
Lord Frieza
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Lol
538 has Arizona as a very close race, and Trump's support has been plummeting, so I'm hopeful that Arizona can be on the right side of history. I'll certainly do my part on election day.
Trump's support in AZ was always lower than previous GOP candidates as he doesn't do as well as typical for GOP candidates with members of the LDS (a traditional staple of the GOP).
Probably not, but they burned the whole conversation in the last decade. It's barely about policy anymore. And that could change...maybe.
"Yes maam... he wasn't talking about cats..can we still count you in for the winning tea..
Hello?
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I think my phone isn't working again..
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RPGCrazied
Member
This is Trump and his campaign now.
Future Foundation
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But that's the thing - he's always been a reprehensible braggart. He's always been a jerkoff to women. Why disavow now?
Or, they'll just pick someone who's able to hide their shitty qualities better. It's like what Jamelle Bouie said:
DirtyManos
Member
God, among all the destruction going on in GOP this weekend, let us not forget Ted Cruz wallowing in the shit....just over a week since he endorsed Donald Trump this happens.
Everyone will laugh at him if he reverses himself once again. He can't claim he always stood his ground before everyone dropped endorsements lol, he'll always be that miserable cretin stuck in a Trump phone bank.
Everyone will laugh at him if he reverses himself once again. He can't claim he always stood his ground before everyone dropped endorsements lol, he'll always be that miserable cretin stuck in a Trump phone bank.
paperboywriter
Member
"oh shit" - me saying out loud when reading this. this is actually huge.
Netherscourge
Banned
Many Republicans supported Trump so they could win their OWN November elections.
The one's abandoning Trump now are doing it to win their OWN November elections.
These moves are part of the ebb and flow of constituency trends.
They will do whatever the fuck it takes to win their OWN elections. There is ZERO morality being exercised by these moves, ZERO. They don't give a fuck what Trump says or does They only care who their voters are leaning toward and what positions they need to take to get their voters on their side.
So, please. Don't commend these soulless assholes NOW.
McCain, Ryan, Cruz, etc.. etc.. are all SELLOUTS trying to keep their jobs and their power.
Don't EVER forget that.
The one's abandoning Trump now are doing it to win their OWN November elections.
These moves are part of the ebb and flow of constituency trends.
They will do whatever the fuck it takes to win their OWN elections. There is ZERO morality being exercised by these moves, ZERO. They don't give a fuck what Trump says or does They only care who their voters are leaning toward and what positions they need to take to get their voters on their side.
So, please. Don't commend these soulless assholes NOW.
McCain, Ryan, Cruz, etc.. etc.. are all SELLOUTS trying to keep their jobs and their power.
Don't EVER forget that.
UberTag
Member
Now who's being naive?
More like they know Trump's a loser and are using this opportunity to hop off the bandwagon so they can avoid getting dragged down with it. They won't change one iota.
This guy gets it.
RPGCrazied
Member
Surely Paul Ryan is next. I mean most of all morning long GOP elite have been fleeing Trump. I don't think Ryan was ever a fan, so its seems like he would do this after so many left today.
He had is chance today and he rolled over, just like he has in the past. Shameful.
Very true, doesn't change things really.
There's been hundreds of perfect moments to jump off it by now.
What I don't understand is, even if Trump won, it doesn't take a psychic to know he'd end up being viewed as a trainwreck of a president. He'd say flippant shit to other world leaders that get our country in hot water, he'd deliver tone-deaf addresses to victims of tragedies, he'd actively antagonize huge swaths of the country's citizens, his presidency would be a comedy of errors; This stuff should be an inevitability to anyone that's spent two minutes observing the guy's past.
Republicans not having the long-term gumption to know that distancing from this circus clown would pay dividends for them, and that embracing him would be a huge liability, in the long-term just shows how inconceivably stupid the party is. I'll be the first to throw a bunch of negative descriptors at the 'pubs, but I at least thought there was some method to the madness, a sliver of political savvy, no matter how crude or misguided. But no, that veil is lifted. Clinging to the insane hope that Trump endorsements were somehow not going to blow up in their faces, win or lose, there's no other conclusion to come to than that the party at large is just straight-up dumb as a box of rocks.
I he had a backbone he wouldn't have ever endorsed him to begin with. Pretty easy to withdraw it now since everyone else is doing the same.
Palette Swap
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Pretty much. They've made abundantly clear over the past year they were willing to eat shit and ask for seconds if it meant they could win. The moral posturing is just damage control. They 100% deserve the shit they're in.
OpinionatedCyborg
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Next paragraph:
I have wanted to support the candidate our party nominated. He was not my choice, but as a past nominee, I thought it important I respect the fact that Donald Trump won a majority of the delegates by the rules our party set. I thought I owed his supporters that deference.
Ether_Snake
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The last four GOP candidates for president are openly against Trump.
RPGCrazied
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Lol
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I'll waited with baited breath.
This is a feat that will probably never happen again. It's unbelievable.
I would argue that they do hate some of it. Like his Russia position, for example.
The thought that anyone cares about Cruz is hilarious.
He was fighting a primary against a far right challenger. Not an excuse, and he shouldn't have done it, but that is why he endorsed Trump.
Good on him for using the Central Park Give as one of the reasons though.
I find it hilarious that Cruz backed Trump at the worst possible time. If he had waited like one more week, he could have still been playing the "I told you so" card.
RPGCrazied
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I just find it hilarious that he literally endorsed him like a week ago, and was phone banking for him and now this.
Jesus, what a pathetic man.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
This. It's all about maintaining the status quo with these guys. They only care about winning.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
This is too much at once. We need him to catch some sort of a 2nd wind and recover a bit. Aren't there like 14 more recordings to leak?
Maybe one of the other Access Hollywood releases will push him over the edge. Apparently they're just as bad and maybe even worse.
Tranqueris
Banned
This is not going to go down well. Donald Trump is a sinking ship but he still has a cult like grip over a good chunk of Republican voters.
I eagerly await the "don't vote for McCain" attacks from Donald Trump.
I eagerly await the "don't vote for McCain" attacks from Donald Trump.
What if the reason they're all abandoning support for Trump is that Cruz is doing it now, and they don't want to be seen doing the same thing as Cruz?
H.Cornerstone
Member
Still not voting for him.
thesoapster
Member
A write-in, eh. I'm only half impressed...
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