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John Wick: Chapter 2 |OT| I Know Gun Fu
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The Guy In Red
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Guys,
I was reading a review and it mentioned that there is an assassin who is
. Is this significant in terms of the reveal in the film?
I was reading a review and it mentioned that there is an assassin who is
deaf
Da-Kid
Member
I'd be interested in a John Wick game which serve as prequel's to the movies.
More_Badass
Member
It can't be a regular shooter though. I think a melee system like Arkham or that PS2 Jet Li game, with Max Payne style dives and slow motion for precise shots, would work best
Mighty Chin
Banned
Ruby Rose was a punk and went out like a punk. Zero Threat.
The Scollard
Member
No. It was shown already in one of the trailers, and it's not really a reveal. She just speaks with sign language from the beginning, and the film doesn't make a big deal out of it.
The Scollard
Member
There was. It was when John stabbed the guy in the taint. I remember because my entire theatre audibly cringed when that happened.
This was real good. It's kind of like what The Raid 2 was to The Raid 1. More story/world building, and taking the action to another level, however like with The Raid 2 some of the simplicity and focus gets lost. This had a lot of good little humorous bits in it which was nice.
Great action movie. One of the best I've seen.
Loved Ruby Rose's character. She was... creepy.
My only complaint was
Also kind of random but I get the weirdest impression that
Loved Ruby Rose's character. She was... creepy.
Doubt she survived, but it'd be great to see her back.
My only complaint was
the ending kind of felt like a balloon deflating. An obvious setup for 3, but it wasn't very satisfying on its own.
Also kind of random but I get the weirdest impression that
Winston is John's father.
The Scollard
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I don't think Winston is literally John's father, but the film definitely gives you the sense that he sees John as almost a surrogate son. After all,
he tries talking John down from killing Santino, and also stands up to the latter in John's defense.
gives John the one hour, which was a courtesy, as shown by how he dealt with Perkins in the last film, and it looks like he's almost tearing up when he makes his phone call at the end.
lol
i think my only complaint about the gun effects are the ones regarding the shotgun, i would've thought a gun of that caliber would easily split bodies, tear limbs etc
we only saw big blood splatters for it :/
Aaronology
Member
This also occurred to me, but I am not a fan of that level of gore so I didn't mind its exclusion in Chapter 2.
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Deleted member 80556
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I saw it yesterday and god damn it was amazing. Can't wait to see more.
General rule for media, if they don't explicitly show a death on screen, the character is still alive.
Seemed like she died to me, maybe too a slight to quick of a cut from her dead eyes, but thats what I got from it.
Blackage
Member
Play the Red Hood DLC for Arkham Knight heh.
Also I think at one point, one of the henchmen who are witnessing the ridiculous body count would have just nope'd out of there. Like at what point do you walk into a room with 10 dead bodies and say "Uhhhh, yeah no" and just go the opposite direction.
Zero-Crescent
Member
As someone mentioned before,
Ares' death mirrored Cassian's defeat. John stabbed Cassian in the aorta and left the knife in, giving Cassian a slim chance of surviving if he is able to seek medical help in time. John stabbed Ares in the same place, then immediately took the knife out, leaving her to bleed out with a ruptured aorta. Outside of receiving major medical treatment the moment John left, the only way that she could possibly survive would be if it turns out she has dextrocardia situs inversus (heart on the opposite side).
Dreams-Visions
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I'mma be honest.
This is probably in my top 5 all-time action movies.
This is probably in my top 5 all-time action movies.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
He'll be
back.
They seemed pretty evenly matched at the time and if Wick didn't have plot armor I could see that fight going either way. That said, a fresh, uninjured Wick would probably destroy him.
He is the boogeyman after all.
They seemed pretty evenly matched at the time and if Wick didn't have plot armor I could see that fight going either way. That said, a fresh, uninjured Wick would probably destroy him.
He is the boogeyman after all.
I agree with you on this point. The violence in Chapter 2 made me uncomfortable at times, whereas it was stylized in Chapter 1.
The entire car sequence leading
up to the mob boss at the beginning nearly made me deaf....
Monocle
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Was this ever in question?
Vincent Alexander
Member
Just got back. Amazing flick. Only two complaints:
1) I did not like the ending scene,
2) I had 3 guys in the theater near the front row who talked the whole movie. Thankfully during action or any kind of music going on, it covered them up. But during any dialogue scenes that were a little quiet, you could hear them. They actually were speaking UP during some parts, so they could better hear each other over the "pesky" loud movie. It pissed me off so much, but what really pissed me off more is knowing I couldn't do shit about it if I told those working. They're a bunch of college kids who probably don't give a shit or don't have the stones to do anything. Hell, my brother once told the manager about a group that snuck in 6-pack of beer for Star Wars III, and after the manager spoke to them she let them all stay. And you know what...nothing against those working either. I wouldn't want to deal with that crap either.
1) I did not like the ending scene,
seeing everyone watching John as he runs by as if they're in the know and have been receiving texts about him. How many fucking mercs are there? Waaaay too many. Kind of takes a little of the zazz out of the world if everyone in New York is a hitman.
2) I had 3 guys in the theater near the front row who talked the whole movie. Thankfully during action or any kind of music going on, it covered them up. But during any dialogue scenes that were a little quiet, you could hear them. They actually were speaking UP during some parts, so they could better hear each other over the "pesky" loud movie. It pissed me off so much, but what really pissed me off more is knowing I couldn't do shit about it if I told those working. They're a bunch of college kids who probably don't give a shit or don't have the stones to do anything. Hell, my brother once told the manager about a group that snuck in 6-pack of beer for Star Wars III, and after the manager spoke to them she let them all stay. And you know what...nothing against those working either. I wouldn't want to deal with that crap either.
More_Badass
Member
All those people Winston had in the park had to go somewhere when they left. At least that's who I thought all those people were.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Yeah...I guess that could make sense. I'll go with that. Makes me not dislike it as much.
I'm surprised how much I like Ruby Rose in this...especially for a character that doesn't speak. She isn't your typical hardass/badass cardboard cutout character. She is definitely tough, but little things made me like her.
When she reports to Santino "I fucked up. I'm sorry" instead of just saying "Wick got away" like you'd expect. And that long look she gives Santino when she sends him away and lets him know "I got this" before turning to face Wick. I dunno...just really liked her.
spazchicken
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So what's the plot, did they kill his chinchilla this time?
You're a funny guy.
He definitely
survived
Thought the same thing
Can't wait for Wick to team up with him and Fishburne in Part 3
timetokill
Banned
Saw it today, damn fun movie. You feel pretty bad for Wick by the end, hope he figures out a "catch" to the rules in part 3.
The Driver
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I liked this a lot. It's pretty close to the original for me but I think the first has a more emotional through line, more taut action scenes, the better villain, and is just a better movie in general. It also has the Kaledia, "Think" sequence sooooo.
This one did probably have better action overall though I will say the first two setpieces are at the bottom of the list for the series, probably only a little better than the finale of the original. It also takes a whileeeeee to get going with the real gun fu stuff. The 1 on 1 bits with Common and Ruby where probably the best parts, glad they
This one did probably have better action overall though I will say the first two setpieces are at the bottom of the list for the series, probably only a little better than the finale of the original. It also takes a whileeeeee to get going with the real gun fu stuff. The 1 on 1 bits with Common and Ruby where probably the best parts, glad they
left the door open for those characters to return.
Great movie, great moments. Biggest complaint was that it didn't surprise me as much as I hoped it would. They played too many moments straight. Wanted more subversion.
Shotguns don't have calibers. A 12-Gauge shotgun hitting people at that range would... occasionally do that kinda damage, but I mean, if they're even half as well armored as Wick is, that damage seems about right.
Shotguns don't have calibers. A 12-Gauge shotgun hitting people at that range would... occasionally do that kinda damage, but I mean, if they're even half as well armored as Wick is, that damage seems about right.
Enjoyed the hell out of it but it's very very much a sequel. Like the Peter Stormare bit at the beginning was funny, but cut that out and the movie is just as good -- probably better, even. There's a weird thing in the character motivations in this one where John is like... explicitly and exclusively a bad guy. You could kind of handwave the violence in the first by saying it was a cartoonish retribution against a cartoonish villainy. But like... there's no world in which you can even kind of feel ok about this guy murdering like ten dudes just to get a photo back. Not one of his kills had any kind of righteousness behind them except ~maybe~ the one that he broke the rules to do, which messes that one up.
On the one hand it's kind of good that this one took the violence a bit more seriously and made it more complicated, but on the other, that's not really what I showed up to the theater for.
Everything to do with Common was all the way dope.
On the one hand it's kind of good that this one took the violence a bit more seriously and made it more complicated, but on the other, that's not really what I showed up to the theater for.
Everything to do with Common was all the way dope.
They did not leave anything open for Ruby's character.
she literally died on screen and to top it off wick killed her the same way he nearly killed common but instead of giving Ruby's character a "choice" he immediately pulled out the knife
Vincent Alexander
Member
Yeah. I really loved that moment. And I feel like most shitty movies that don't trust the audience to be smart would've had John say
she is going to bleed to death because he pulled the knife out, instead of letting us put the pieces together with the previous scene. Not that anyone here who thinks she survived is dumb, because we're all free to interpret the movie how we'd like. I'm just glad they didn't put words in John's mouth to spew at the audience.
GravityInsanity
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Joel Was Right
Member
Is this as good as Raid 1?
My thoughts exactly. I rewatched the John Wick with my sister right after coming home from the second movie. It's still a great film but what was immediately apparent to me was how subdued everything felt.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Jesus no, if that was the case John would have died from grenade spam after the 3rd kill.
SenseiAsad
Member
Can't wait for this, does anyone know what's happening with the UK release? All the cinemas seem to just have one screening listed for the 14th?
SaniOYOYOY
Member
more comparable to raid 2 tbh.
for me mad max>raid2>=raid1>john wick2>=john wick 1
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