IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
What planet did you grow up on? Like seriously…. When have men ever “not hated other men”?
Just absolutely silly comment.
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Just absolutely silly comment.
RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
Looks shit.
Ulysses 31
Member
The more I read about this movie, the more I get the impression it was made to "spite the incels" who looked up to Arthur in the first movie. That and the director selling out to make a sequel to a one off movie.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Arthur is a creepy stalker turned murderer in the first movie.
Ulysses 31
Member
Obviously before he became that. He didn't start out that way.
Maybe the better wording is "relate to his plight".
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I don’t understand how, after becoming that by the end of the movie, anyone should be considered “spited” by the sequel?
Ulysses 31
Member
If people were in some form rooting for Joker after all he'd been through then the sequel turns him back into the "pathetic" Arthur again for big chunks of the movie to the point he becomes a disappointment to those around him and gets dealt with accordingly.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
It's getting destroyed on Rotten. That surprises me as I thought for certain the "Critics" would laude this. Guess it could be a bad movie for most watchers.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
It just seems like the most obvious expectation would be for Arthur, the murderous stalker, to not be shown in a positive light in the sequel. I don't think the director has to have some disdain for the few weird people rooting for a psychopathic murderer to have the story end up how it did, and certainly dont' think that would actually motivate someone to make a $200 million budget movie lol
Philips just isn't a great director in the end.. he's made mostly slop, so Joker 2 ending up slop is hardly surprising.
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FunkMiller
Member
Jesus Christ that ending is absolutely fucking abhorrent 
Dumb as a bag of spanners. It's the type of thing you'd expect from fan fiction written by a fourteen year old.
Dumb as a bag of spanners. It's the type of thing you'd expect from fan fiction written by a fourteen year old.
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Bloobs
Al Pachinko, Konami President
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Jesus Christ that ending is absolutely fucking abhorrent
Spoil it for me please. Couldn't stand the first movie either
FunkMiller
Member
Spoil it for me please. Couldn't stand the first movie either
Arthur isn't The Joker. He's killed by the actual Joker at the end of the movie... and it's hinted very strongly that this is somehow meant to be Heath's Joker, because he gives himself the iconic Glasgow Smile Heath has in The Dark Knight with the knife he kills Arthur with.
Fucking idiotic doesn't begin to cover it.
EDIT: Ha ha ha! It gets worse! Apparently
It's also strongly implied that Arthur didn't commit any of the violence seen in the first film, and that it was in fact this other Joker the entire time, while he imagined it was him. He really is just a sad sack little loser
So glad I didn't waste my time on this
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Arthur isn't The Joker. He's killed by the actual Joker at the end of the movie... and it's hinted very strongly that this is somehow meant to be Heath's Joker, because he gives himself the iconic Glasgow Smile Heath has in The Dark Knight with the knife he kills Arthur with.
Fucking idiotic doesn't begin to cover it.
EDIT: Ha ha ha! It gets worse! Apparently
It's also strongly implied that Arthur didn't commit any of the violence seen in the first film, and that it was in fact this other Joker the entire time, while he imagined it was him. He really is just a sad sack little loser
So glad I didn't waste my time on this
God I hated the first movie so much and the fact that they disrespected Heath Ledger version is terrible and makes me mad
Now I feel vindicated about the first movie being complete dogshit and proves that the director can't write a good script. It was cringe and predictable, this sequel just seems to be more of the same but even more pretentious. Seeing Lady GaGa doing the finger gun to head scene made me roll my eyes so much. I pretty much noped out when I saw that scene in a preview
The Batman and The Penguin are so much better than those two piles of shit
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FunkMiller
Member
I'm not much of a fan of Reeves's version of The Joker, but compared to this it's fucking Oscar worthy.
FunkMiller
Member
This Reddit thread is absolute gold with some of the replies.
I never really subscribe to the idea that a bad sequel can ruin a first movie... but with this turd I'll make a definite exception
I never really subscribe to the idea that a bad sequel can ruin a first movie... but with this turd I'll make a definite exception
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
so who's playing this
Also how does Harley
real joker ?
Also how does Harley
not know he's not the 'real joker' if he was imagining himself in the place of the actual joker'
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FunkMiller
Member
The 'real' Joker is another inmate at Arkham. Who may - or may not - have been responsible for all the things we thought Arthur did in the first film. It's unclear. He pops up a couple of times during the film.
As for Harley, she does think Arthur is the Joker, but turns on him when he renounces it, I believe. The whole movie is basically one long exercise in telling the audience that Arthur isn't, and never was, The Joker.
As for Harley, she does think Arthur is the Joker, but turns on him when he renounces it, I believe. The whole movie is basically one long exercise in telling the audience that Arthur isn't, and never was, The Joker.
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RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
Joker: Folie à Deux review | A bland, gutless film masquerading as a musical
Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga begin a bad romance in Todd Phillips’ sequel to his 2019 hit. Read our Joker: Folie à Deux review here.
filmstories.co.uk
Joker: Folie à Deux review | A bland, gutless film masquerading as a musical
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I guess this movie is for those folks who said that the first one was not interesting for them Too bad there are not that many of them lol
Too bad there are not that many of them lol
The Cockatrice
Member
what the fuck, I mean, it's no doubt a twist I did not see it coming but at the same time it makes the entire movie pointless. Clearly this was done on purpose to piss off the people who liked the first one. What a fucking idiot.Arthur isn't The Joker. He's killed by the actual Joker at the end of the movie... and it's hinted very strongly that this is somehow meant to be Heath's Joker, because he gives himself the iconic Glasgow Smile Heath has in The Dark Knight with the knife he kills Arthur with.
Fucking idiotic doesn't begin to cover it.
EDIT: Ha ha ha! It gets worse! Apparently
It's also strongly implied that Arthur didn't commit any of the violence seen in the first film, and that it was in fact this other Joker the entire time, while he imagined it was him. He really is just a sad sack little loser
So glad I didn't waste my time on this
RAÏSanÏa
Member
As a film that was intentionally made to comment on fan culture, the unnerved reactions are fascinating to those on the outside.
After SS, Ledger's Joker was portrayed by fans killing the Leto version. Seeing it happen to a Joker, but not as headcannoned, and the fan reaction to it is enlightening as metacommentary on fan behavior..
I'm looking forward to seeing this movie and more reviews that claim they're not mad then rant angrily.
After SS, Ledger's Joker was portrayed by fans killing the Leto version. Seeing it happen to a Joker, but not as headcannoned, and the fan reaction to it is enlightening as metacommentary on fan behavior..
I'm looking forward to seeing this movie and more reviews that claim they're not mad then rant angrily.
Interfectum
Member
Man... the dude had a classic comic book movie with the first one. He literally ruined the movie with the sequel. That's pretty nuts. That ending is pure trash.
Trilobit
Member
It seems to be so. The creator didn't like that the wrong people loved the first movie so he had to make this one as a reaction to it. I hate when creators get obsessed with their fans or different fans. Like how the She-Hulk show was obsessed with "triggering" a group of fans they didn't like.
Slothbeing1209
Member
Wtf did I just watch.
I expect nothing and still disappointed...
They just shit on everything they've built in the first movie.
I expect nothing and still disappointed...
They just shit on everything they've built in the first movie.
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
I guess studios should really start to throw away writers or directors who pull the stunts like that, without being able to work in movie industry anymore. When they finally feel the consequences they will start making good movies instead.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Just watched it in imax
Pretentious courtroom drama musical trash, even the musical planet in the marvels was better than this horseshit
They switched the dynamic between harley and joker, but it's not interesting at all because it goes nowhere.
Seems like the whole thing was just a setup for the birth of the "real" joker right at the end.
It feels the whole thing was tailored around having a singer as one of the leads, but she was just distracting me with her botox filled fish lips.
Pretentious courtroom drama musical trash, even the musical planet in the marvels was better than this horseshit
They switched the dynamic between harley and joker, but it's not interesting at all because it goes nowhere.
Seems like the whole thing was just a setup for the birth of the "real" joker right at the end.
It feels the whole thing was tailored around having a singer as one of the leads, but she was just distracting me with her botox filled fish lips.
Power Pro
Member
I really don't understand the hate for Lady Gaga I keep reading in this thread. I don't hate her, but I don't love her. I think she's just a talented artist, and respect what she does. She seems like a decent person otherwise, but all the hate on her is so confusing.
Even after being unable to resist the spoilers in this thread, I still might go see it this afternoon to get my own opinion on it.
Even after being unable to resist the spoilers in this thread, I still might go see it this afternoon to get my own opinion on it.
Fbh
Member
Arthur isn't The Joker. He's killed by the actual Joker at the end of the movie... and it's hinted very strongly that this is somehow meant to be Heath's Joker, because he gives himself the iconic Glasgow Smile Heath has in The Dark Knight with the knife he kills Arthur with.
Fucking idiotic doesn't begin to cover it.
EDIT: Ha ha ha! It gets worse! Apparently
It's also strongly implied that Arthur didn't commit any of the violence seen in the first film, and that it was in fact this other Joker the entire time, while he imagined it was him. He really is just a sad sack little loser
So glad I didn't waste my time on this
Lol did they get M. Night Shyamalan as a guest writer for this?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Now i need to see this. The first one was amazing but if the ending is really this bad i need to watch this trainwreck in motion to fully appreciate the suck.
Werewolf Jones
Member
From Taxi driver for Zoomers to a capeshit subversion? lol.
Ulysses 31
Member
TheChumpNation
Neo Member
Sounds like a fun hatewatch, but one I'll enjoy sailing the high seas rather than paying at a theater for.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
That ending sounds awful. I usually like those kinds of things, but what a way to crap on fans.
My thoughts exactly.
I knew it was bad news as soon as I read it'd be a musical.
Either way. The first movie is still really good, for Arthur's transformation.
FunkMiller
Member
This movie sucks it seems for two main reasons: one, the filmmakers were absolutely desperate to distance themselves from any perceived alt right behaviour from a very small minority of people who liked the first one, and two: because the first movie should have existed as a standalone, and this was only made out of pure, mindless greed.
If you don't know what the hell to do with your version of The Joker, just change it so it was
Warner Bros continues to be run by a collection of shaved, cocaine fuelled monkeys. We should be concentrating on Reeves's second Batman film with Keoghan's Joker, not this sad, pathetic little excuse for a franchise, that's now been robbed of whatever power and interest it once had.
If you don't know what the hell to do with your version of The Joker, just change it so it was
never The Joker in the first place - rendering the entire stupid fucking project utterly redundant.
Warner Bros continues to be run by a collection of shaved, cocaine fuelled monkeys. We should be concentrating on Reeves's second Batman film with Keoghan's Joker, not this sad, pathetic little excuse for a franchise, that's now been robbed of whatever power and interest it once had.
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chromhound
Member
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I actually wanna see it now just to see what kind of mess is waiting for me.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
I read something to that effect. Something about him making the movie a specific way to get at the incels that 'idolized' the character and related to it.
If so? That's so fucking petty. Imagine shitting on your career, after riding on it's high? This person deserves continuous flops, after this.