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July Wrasslin’ |OT| The Ring’s a Field, the Field of War, That’s Where We Lay the Law

Hasney

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So this feud is still happening right? Not that I'm opposed to a Paige/AJ tag-team leading to a feud later on, but I was kinda excited for Paige turning heel and them feuding now. Last nights angle had no hints towards Paige turning on AJ though, but that could have been due to focusing on the turn of Cameron on Naomi.

Saving it for Summerslam maybe? That would be better if they actually believe in it.

#PleaseGiveThem20Minutes
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
In the spirit of co-promotion with HDTGM-GAF, How Did This Get Made just released an episode on Mr. Nanny, the Hulk Hogan movie.

http://www.earwolf.com/episode/mr-nanny-live/

"HULKAMNIA is back brother! Recorded LIVE at Largo in Los Angeles, Rob Corddry joins Paul, June, & Jason to talk about how Mr. Nanny has changed his mind on enjoying movies all together. They’ll discuss the casual dog throw into the ocean at the very beginning, Terry “Hulk” Hogan fingering a pie, Buster Poindexter as the villain, and the pit of blood. Plus, Rob shares his daughter’s commentary of the movie and everyone asks themselves what really happened at the end of this movie."

Great show, haven't listened to this episode but if you need something to listen to a couple times a month for an hour of solid comedy and fun, this is it.
 
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So this feud is still happening right? Not that I'm opposed to a Paige/AJ tag-team leading to a feud later on, but I was kinda excited for Paige turning heel and them feuding now. Last nights angle had no hints towards Paige turning on AJ though, but that could have been due to focusing on the turn of Cameron on Naomi.
I feel like Paige's promo was supposed over the top cockiness with a heel I'm going to turn on you very soon, over the top friendliness vibe but she can't actually cut a promo so it's impossible to tell. Her ineptness is actually keeping me on the edge of my seat.
 

RP912

Banned
I've watched the old PPVs I want to and they're being quite annoying with how infrequent ECW weekly goes up. Barely got any interest in the current PPVs so I'm probably getting about an hour a week for NXT, maybe more if that weeks Beyond The Ring is good?

I was really hoping that Monday Night Wars would be better paced, but with it going for 20 weeks, once it's done, it's done and it was one of the main reasons I wanted the network. Just thinking it's better to wait for it to officially launch in the UK, cancel unblock-us as well and then I'll have a much bigger library to dip into when I'm back.


Yea thats my pet peeve about the network. I really wanted to see 1995/96 ecw but so far nothing. I know these things take time but there's some days where I just want to cut on the network and be like "wow I'll go on a ecw binge starting from 95".

Lately it just been clash of champions followed by a wcw ppv for me.
 

Ithil

Member
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So this feud is still happening right? Not that I'm opposed to a Paige/AJ tag-team leading to a feud later on, but I was kinda excited for Paige turning heel and them feuding now. Last nights angle had no hints towards Paige turning on AJ though, but that could have been due to focusing on the turn of Cameron on Naomi.[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure they're doing some kind of "sarcastic best friend" thing, or maybe a Mickie James type deal. They're certainly not actually buddy buddies.
 

Cagey

Banned
It amazes me how beautiful and stacked the network is and just how negative and entitled people act with it. It's 10 a month with free ppv's. Everything else is icing on the cake but I think they're waiting for free bj's or diva porn from it. Even then they'd probably be like, okay cool, Aj and Paige did it but where was Summer Rae?
Yep. People here cry the product sucks and they don't give the real fans what they want and then you read they're too cheap to pay 10 bucks for PPVs because it's not enough content offered. Miserable. Why did they ever listen to you if you want to pirate instead of pay that cost.

On Reigns, the self fulfilling prophecy nails it. It's been that way for months, is been predictable for months. It's sad to see.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Yep. People here cry the product sucks and they don't give the real fans what they want and then you read they're too cheap to pay 10 bucks for PPVs because it's not enough content offered. Miserable.

On Reigns, the self fulfilling prophecy nails it. It's been that way for months, is been predictable for months. It's sad to see.

Well there was that one study that showed WWE fans spend the least, by far, of any kind of hobby involving their...hobby.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Saving it for Summerslam maybe? That would be better if they actually believe in it.

#PleaseGiveThem20Minutes

I feel like Paige's promo was supposed over the top cockiness with a heel I'm going to turn on you very soon, over the top friendliness vibe but she can't actually cut a promo so it's impossible to tell. Her ineptness is actually keeping me on the edge of my seat.

Pretty sure they're doing some kind of "sarcastic best friend" thing, or maybe a Mickie James type deal. They're certainly not actually buddy buddies.

That's what I figured over last weeks stuff too, but there was absolutely nothing like that this week. Again, maybe it was Paige's delivery botching the entrance stuff and not sounding sarcastic enough, but they worked the match like good partners. Nothing hinting at all.

But again, I guess they wanted to focus on Cameron's turn this match.
 

alstein

Member
Reigns isn't going to become a huge star. The fans just don't want a guy who can't deliver great matches at the top right now.

At least Cena can produce great matches with the right opponent and motivation (and he holds up his end of them)
Until Reigns can do that the fans won't accept him- they'll want Ambrose instead.

What Reigns needs right now is the IC belt, and long feuds with Cesaro and Rusev

I wouldn't mind seeing a Shield 3-way at WM- have Reigns win the Rumble, Ambrose Elimination Chamber, then have Rollins cash in MITB at WM.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Reigns isn't going to become a huge star. The fans just don't want a guy who can't deliver great matches at the top right now.

Sorry mate, I have to stop you right there, because the pops he's getting very much suggest otherwise.

Also, he's not "at the top" because that's Cena's spot right now. He's not going to be at the top for at least another six months.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
In the spirit of co-promotion with HDTGM-GAF, How Did This Get Made just released an episode on Mr. Nanny, the Hulk Hogan movie.

http://www.earwolf.com/episode/mr-nanny-live/

"HULKAMNIA is back brother! Recorded LIVE at Largo in Los Angeles, Rob Corddry joins Paul, June, & Jason to talk about how Mr. Nanny has changed his mind on enjoying movies all together. They’ll discuss the casual dog throw into the ocean at the very beginning, Terry “Hulk” Hogan fingering a pie, Buster Poindexter as the villain, and the pit of blood. Plus, Rob shares his daughter’s commentary of the movie and everyone asks themselves what really happened at the end of this movie."

Great show, haven't listened to this episode but if you need something to listen to a couple times a month for an hour of solid comedy and fun, this is it.

Awful name for a show. I keep seeing it and thinking it's gonna be some sweet How It's Made style thing instead of some d-tier comedians with a podcast.

Sorry mate, I have to stop you right there, because the pops he's getting very much suggest otherwise.

Also, he's not "at the top" because that's Cena's spot right now. He's not going to be at the top for at least another six months.

Mhm. Like Ryback or Cesaro.
 
Reigns is in that Rocky Maivia phase. There is talent there, it's just not his final form.

Reigns must have a "Rock" character or "Stone Cold" or even a "HHH" inside him. It's not like they have stuck him with a shitty gimmick, either. Either he has an extension of his personality that takes him to that level or he doesn't. Right now he's like a cross between Randy Orton and Razor Ramon and it's just not clicking for me. But hey, the majority of the audience seem to love him atm, so who am I to say?
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Mhm. Like Ryback or Cesaro.

Cesaro didn't get pops like Reigns or Ryback got.

Ryback is ugly as sin, got Goldberg chants during each and everyone of his matches, even at the height of his popularity, and allegedly had a shitty backstage attitude, he was never going to be over long term.

I'm sorry, but these comparisons don't fly with me.
 

Sblargh

Banned
I'll tell you what my friend.

Earnest apology to Heel and all will be right with the world. You did him dirty, Sblargh! Keep it playful!

Heel is legit wounded over that. He'd never say it to your face, he has too much budo for that - but it hurt.

I'll say it clear, I think I only did really wrong to Dragonzord. That was straight-up unfair and so, Dragonzord, I am really sorry, man; you somehow say troll-ish things, but they are just once in a blue moon and you more often than not contributes things I like to read. I apologize and it's an apology I don't even really deserve it, thinking back it was really this unfair.

As for heel, I don't know, mang, I want to try to see him in a different light since people have a different opinion, but it seems he is unable to do one post that isn't either snarky or an attempt to bring someone down. Maybe it's just how him and I see humor differently; if he cares about what I think of him, and it's perfectly reasonable if he doesn't, then he should either talk about it here or send me a PM or anything to make him look like an actual human being. And if the answer is something like "keep it fun and playful, friend", then what can I say? I guess i'll just put him on the ignore list and move on.
 

RP912

Banned
Maybe reigns needs a female manager. Somebody to take away the obvious flaws. It's ok to have managers and still be at the top of the main event status WWE.
 
I tend to forget that Ryback got over as a face, one of the rarer events where a heel turn was ill advised for the character, well I suppose the real issue that the heel turn led directly into a Cena feud.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
I tend to forget that Ryback got over as a face, one of the rarer events where a heel turn was ill advised for the character, well I suppose the real issue that the heel turn led directly into a Cena feud.

Ryback died the day he wasn't allowed to beat CM Punk. Twas a shame.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Cesaro didn't get pops like Reigns or Ryback got.

Ryback is ugly as sin, got Goldberg chants during each and everyone of his matches, even at the height of his popularity, and allegedly had a shitty backstage attitude, he was never going to be over long term.

I'm sorry, but these comparisons don't fly with me.

I can say Roman Reigns allegedly has a shitty backstage attitude without a source. Doesn't make it true. Besides, you know who else people would have said had a 'shitty backstage attitude?' The Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan, Randy Orton, Stone Cold, Roddy Piper, Ric Flair, and pretty much every wrestler ever that wasn't stupidly nice to every person they met because some other wrestler told the sheetz they were a dick.

I don't see how there's any difference between Ryback and Roman on 'long-term booking.' Neither's an iron man, neither's that old, both are 'big impactful wrestlers.' I could make the argument that Roman's never going to get over long term because he's still working the shield gimmick. Like everyone moved on but him. Like he's Jason David Frank. His entire existence is based on how much he can survive a Cena feud. And going by his cheesy one-liner promos, I very much doubt that.
 
Ryback died the day he wasn't allowed to beat CM Punk. Twas a shame.

That was the first of many deep wounds, see also losing the rumble to Cena. Surprisingly despite the booking downfall after the HiaC match he stayed pretty over with the fans, he was easily the favourite of team super face at Elimination Chamber that year at any rate and I think that heel turn a month later was a big mistake.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
That was the first of many deep wounds, see also losing the rumble to Cena. Surprisingly despite the booking downfall after the HiaC match he stayed pretty over with the fans, he was easily the favourite of team super face at Elimination Chamber that year at any rate and I think that heel turn a month later was a big mistake.

Yeah, and what did Ryback do that year at Mania? Lose to Mark Henry in a feud that didn't do anything for either person?

Ryback was really over in that Rumble too, you can book someone to be over if they have a good look. Just keep putting them out there.
 

Hasney

Member
Ryback died the day he wasn't allowed to beat CM Punk. Twas a shame.

He shouldn't have beaten Punk. He shouldn't have been in that match at all. I understand they were in a shitty situation, but they should have panicked with someone else, not someone who they were trying to build.

Not sure who else would have been suitable as I can't remember what was going on at the time.

¡HarlequinPanic!;120010723 said:
Reigns looks larger than life, and is rightfully being groomed to be a foil to Cena.

We'll see if it pans out to anything.

We know how that usually ends. If Reigns turns before they have their big 1 on 1 match, be afraid for his long-term prospects.
 

rugioh

Banned
This totally stood out to me when I went to Raw last year, too. Either it doesn't get across on TV, or it's only in certain towns, but I was fucking amazed at how many parents and their kids were decked out in FULL Cena gear. Headband, shirt, wristband, towel, cap, t shirt, jean shorts... fuck.

There's a reason why his entrance is a walking commercial for his merch. Insane.

I couldn't count on both hands how many kids I saw walking around with "U CANT C ME" baseball caps and "NEVER GIVE UP" t-shirts on the board walk at the beach. At first I thought people exaggerated how over this guy was with kids but it is certainly no joke how much money he must be bringing in.
 

Sblargh

Banned
At the moment, Reigns is doing nothing to me. Which is sad, because my entire room gets more beautiful every time he is on TV. He really is amazingly good looking, but I wish he was a lot less boring. I don't know how he would achieve this, if through better matches or whatever, but he is unable to make me go "oh, cool, Roman Reigns is on! I have to watch this!"
 

joelseph

Member
At the moment, Reigns is doing nothing to me. Which is sad, because my entire room gets more beautiful every time he is on TV. He really is amazingly good looking, but I wish he was a lot less boring. I don't know how he would achieve this, if through better matches or whatever, but he is unable to make me go "oh, cool, Roman Reigns is on! I have to watch this!"

You can tell they are working hard to fix this. His promos over the last 14 days have improved slightly. The end of his promo last night was almost decent! I do think he can stay over on his looks alone, everyone seems to love his look.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
You can tell they are working hard to fix this. His promos over the last 14 days have improved slightly. The end of his promo last night was almost decent! I do think he can stay over on his looks alone, everyone seems to love his look.

PISS IN THE WIND
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Goddamn Monday Night Wars was good. Smart of WWE, even though it APPEARS inconvenient for them to not have it archived, to just show it one night. Builds hype for it and gets people gathered around its airdate. I'm sure someone ripped it on them torrentz sitez and shit if you REALLY want to get it, but it was a good hour. Leaves me optimistic for the other 19 episodes.

Just watched it, it was great. I don't really get the complaints about it being rehashed, of course they have older interviews, but there's plenty of new interviews in there. The stuff with Luger for instance. Very well put together, great images, great clips. I LOVE IT MAGGLE!
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Just watched it, it was great. I don't really get the complaints about it being rehashed, of course they have older interviews, but there's plenty of new interviews in there. The stuff with Luger for instance. Very well put together, great images, great clips. I LOVE IT MAGGLE!

What makes me hopeful is that there's 19 more coming. For all the "well this is a rehash" - this was the first episode, it makes sense a lot of THAT content would be reused - but everything going forward should be interesting with a lot of new content.
 

Striker

Member
He shouldn't have beaten Punk. He shouldn't have been in that match at all. I understand they were in a shitty situation, but they should have panicked with someone else, not someone who they were trying to build.
The situation that really hurt them was the PPV. They forced him into a Hell in a Cell match so he either wins or loses; best option would have been to face Punk with normal rules, allow Cena to sit out as he did, but have the match go through as a count out or DQ (like Maddox's ref involvement, instant DQ). He was pinned and they killed some of his momentum. Good showing in the Rumble after, however, they didn't follow it up at all.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I really like Sanada's new look
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also
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You will never beat him in entrance attire, Hunter. Give it up. His hive has eyeballs in it.

Match was ok. Great spot where Sanada moonsaults Muta and Muta mists him as soon as he lands. I wish W-1 had more budget because I would have loved to seen a bunch of beekeepers come out with Muta.
 

Hasney

Member
So we are all in agreement that the lack of a strongly booked second string title has come back to bite WWE in the ass?

For a couple of years now, they've not bothered booking a strong card for a PPV never mind other titles outside the WWE. I think they're slowing gaining that back now though and I think Summerslam should have a lot less hastily strung together matches in the last 2 weeks before the PPV. I'm assuming:

Cena/Brock
Jericho/Wyatt 2 - Gimmick match edition
AJ/Paige
Miz/Pre-show

Then Reigns/Orton would make logical sense, Rollins/Ambrose should continue, but that should be their blow-off match. Then fit in a tag match, Kane, Sheamus, Cesaro, Rusev and an IC Title match and it's not too bad a card.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, Sanada is probably the best thing TNA has right now.
 
It already has kicked in. I think it's the other way around, and that WWE make it a self-fulfilling prophecy when they don't need to.
I got no problem with Reigns being pushed, he's got a great look, plenty of potential, he ought to be a big deal. But there's a way they push certain people, that nearly immediately becomes obnoxious and ends up turning you off them instead. They did it with Sheamus, Lashley, they've done it for 9 years with Cena, and other favourites they've had over the years.

Ambrose is getting pushed, he has an angle, promo time, long matches, and he's getting over as a result. Reigns is starting to feel like they're grabbing him and stuffing him down your throat screaming "LIKE HIM! LIKE HIM NOW DAMMIT!". He appears constantly every night to be invincible and have other faces tell you how great he is, commentary won't stop (like that Main Event where the main event was "Roman doing a promo" and the commentary told you this literally every minute or two all night. He's over, of course, but it's all so overwhelming immediately that it's going to have negative side effects inevitably.

I understand they want him to be viewed as a big deal, pretty quick, but it all seems to be laying the groundwork for a lot of the audience getting tired of him before he even gets to the top face position. These kinds of superpushes always get a part of the audience to support him, as quite frankly they just go with what WWE says most of the time, but do your really want another top face half the crowd doesn't like? It doesn't help that he's still green and getting the biggest push in the company, just with the hope that he might be good enough by the time he's the top guy.
He would do better in the long run with a less in-your-face push that takes it slower, he's only like 28, there shouldn't be any rush for this. Once you have the audience demanding he be pushed instead of demanding they like him, he'll be set.

I completely agree with everything about this. GAD DANG.
 
Ryback died the day he wasn't allowed to beat CM Punk. Twas a shame.

Ryback also had the Mason Ryan problem; he's huge and looks powerful, but the day he first had trouble lifting a couple of indy geeks for his finisher, you knew he was in some trouble because that reality and the impression that he should be able to do so with ease created a cognitive dissonance in the audience that undermines his gimmick. It was worsened when he had trouble lifting Mark Henry for the finisher, though that was long after the other steps of Ryback's ruination.

Why did regins spear finlay. ??? Some top guy he is

Because WWE main event faces are all jerks.

Man, Juventud is so sloppy
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The Juice likes it sloppy, apparently.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
FE do you have any good gifs? They're all poopy PWG ones.
 

Cagey

Banned
Every Young Bucks gif is more proof for my theory that Shawn Michaels knocked up some chick on an Asian tour back in the early 90s, and the woman gave birth to fraternal twins with learning disabilities.
 

Jamie OD

Member
In the spirit of co-promotion with HDTGM-GAF, How Did This Get Made just released an episode on Mr. Nanny, the Hulk Hogan movie.

http://www.earwolf.com/episode/mr-nanny-live/

"HULKAMNIA is back brother! Recorded LIVE at Largo in Los Angeles, Rob Corddry joins Paul, June, & Jason to talk about how Mr. Nanny has changed his mind on enjoying movies all together. They’ll discuss the casual dog throw into the ocean at the very beginning, Terry “Hulk” Hogan fingering a pie, Buster Poindexter as the villain, and the pit of blood. Plus, Rob shares his daughter’s commentary of the movie and everyone asks themselves what really happened at the end of this movie."

Great show, haven't listened to this episode but if you need something to listen to a couple times a month for an hour of solid comedy and fun, this is it.

Their review of No Holds Barred is amazing.
 
My Summerslam card:


1. Cena vs Lesnar for the belt

2. Reigns vs Orton

3. Sheamus vs Rusev for the US belt

4. Ambrose vs Rollins gimmick match

5. Jericho vs Wyatt gimmick match

6. Paige vs AJ

7. Cesaro vs Big E for the IC belt. Big E going in as champion.


Throw the wyatts, usos, Rybaxel and Rhodes on the preshow to try and do something with the tag division.

Other guys who can make it on the card are Bo Dallas to continue hus streak and Miz should do something. Kane too
 
Every Young Bucks gif is more proof for my theory that Shawn Michaels knocked up some chick on an Asian tour back in the early 90s, and the woman gave birth to fraternal twins with learning disabilities.

they had to overcome so much to become the greatest tag team in the world
 
Wyatt v Jericho shouldn't be a gimmick match. That's all he's been doing and they've all been overbooked to shit. Those guys will burn the barn with just they vanilla selves if ya will.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
People, as I watch these Great Muta matches against newer ones, I'm reminded to send you all a warning. Wrassle-gaf, take care of your knees. They're the only ones you've got.
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