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Keith Richards: Rap is crap, and Metallica and Black Sabbath are a joke

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cruets

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Depends what you mean by relevant. They just did a stadium tour around the US, which is something most rock acts couldn't pull off these days.

i mean came out with a ground breaking album. not impressed by a stadium full of old people over paying for a nostalgia act
 

karasu

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haha I like metal and hip hop but at the same time I kind of agree with him. I really use those genres when I need a digression from what I ordinarily love. Hip Hop used to be my life, but once you reach a certain age so much of it is just silly posturing. At least to me it did.
 

mantidor

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I get going for a genre as popular as rap to get some controversy out there in order to get some publicity for his album, but Metallica and Black Sabbath? The demographics kind of overlap there.
 

spock

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Sticky Fingers is better than Sabbath and Metallica's combined discography.

Ehhh? I am and have been a hiphop fan most of my life...break dancing on cardboard at like 5yo. (37 grew up in flatbush/sunset/bayridge Brooklyn) and I think this is pushing it...
 

Fjordson

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Well he's entitled to his wrong opinion.

The Stones hate in here is scust though. Certainly one of the greatest rock bands ever, thanks in no small part to Keef

Sticky Fingers is better than Sabbath and Metallica's combined discography.
Seriously. Or Beggars Banquet. Or Exile on Main Street. Or Some Girls. Or Let It Bleed.

Stones have made some of the best albums of all time.
 

hey_it's_that_dog

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Nope just millennials in general. If you don't like the turgid shit they like, they get extremely defensive about it*.


*also posts that "old man yells at cloud gif" because they can't argue their point without resorting to stupid memes.
Holy shit at trying to pin idiotic music genre beefs on millennials. Music tribalism has been raging pointlessly forever.
 

ChouGoku

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Basically this. An old man likes music better from when he was younger. An old man has old man opinions
 

Volimar

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What he said was pure stupidity, but lol at people trying to say The Rolling Stones are crap. You're basically doing the same thing he did, except with one band, because one of its members said something stupid as hell.

I like a lot of their songs
when they're sung by other people
 
Maybe he should have died at 21.

Seriously though you're old as shit and haven't been relevant culturally in 30+ years. Just let it go Keith.
 

Buzzati

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My name is Buzzati and im here to say
Im the phattest rapper in the u-s-a
Kids, dont do drugs and you'll go far
Study some math, you'll be a star!


There you go, keith
 

border

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i mean came out with a ground breaking album. not impressed by a stadium full of old people over paying for a nostalgia act

If it requires a "ground breaking" creative work to be relevant, then almost nothing is relevant......and nobody will ever be able to stay relevant for very long since the convergence of innovation and mainstream success is often a once-in-a-lifetime accomplishment.
 
i mean came out with a ground breaking album. not impressed by a stadium full of old people over paying for a nostalgia act
Shut up... I get that what the old man said is rubbish (I fully support his thought on Metallica, though). But, Nostalgia? It's not like their output was shit. No, as a matter of fact, they are good musicians, better thant most of the music you hear today. Although, over rated.
 

Toxi

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When asked to name three metal bands, Keith Richards said Metallica and Black Sabbath, then spent five minutes trying to remember if any other metal bands existed. Eventually he said Iron Maiden.
 

PillarEN

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I ain't even mad and I like most of what he dislikes. Still got to get around to reading his book. Apparently his memory is pretty good considering the insane amount of narcotics abuse.
 
Metallica and Black Sabbath shit on them from a great height. Lol.

Come on breh...no.

Richards is an old man. He came up when blues, r&b, and later rock were the cool/exciting music. When some of the greatest virtuoso musicians were still alive. I get where he's coming from. Obviously I disagree. Even more "complex" hip hop probably wouldn't impress him.
 

Fjordson

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I ain't even mad and I like most of what he dislikes. Still got to get around to reading his book. Apparently his memory is pretty good considering the insane amount of narcotics abuse.
Definitely worth reading. I thought it was really good.
 
What is he even listening to to formulate this opinion?

Probably the most popular rap tracks currently out. I wouldn't say they have so many words though. It's mostly a few of the same ones repeated over and over. Something about a nae nae, and a whip(probably some sort of dirty sex act). And something about coco which I really like because I like coconuts but then they add baking powder which would probably ruin the coconut flavour so I don't get it. Also something about a trap queen. I think that one is about memes, it's about a guy that looks like a girl and is a trap or something. Also money. Also the guy who rapped/sang trap queen has one eye which is kind of strange but very rock&roll.
 
i mean came out with a ground breaking album. not impressed by a stadium full of old people over paying for a nostalgia act
1) Again, you'd be surprised at how varied the audience is at a classic rock bands concerts. It's not the geriatric retirement home community you're assuming it is.

2) If your criteria for relevant is making a ground breaking album, then there probably hasn't been a relevant rock band in years. And very few throughout history.

Some people here have a very odd definition of relevance.
 
Another example of how someone can simultaneously be a genius level talent in one area and a completely unreflective, ill-informed idiot in another.

And I love prime-era rolling stones.
 

IrishNinja

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ironic, given how much of the stones work is owed to black culture..nevermind the fact they n ever did anything as good as illmatic

lotta crap opinions up in here & some lowkey racistm too if we're bein honest
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Metalmarc

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Yo Keef,I think you have some of your dad's arse stuck up in your brain

From the time you claimed you snorted his ashes.


For the record I like some stones stuff, as well as my metal of course and ice-t's band bodycount.

Over the years, 50% of the bands I like, troll others, that I like, so I'm used to it.
 
ironic, given how much of the stones work is owed to black culture..nevermind the fact they n ever did anything as good as illmatic

lotta crap opinions up in here & some lowkey racistm too if we're bein honest
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And they would be the first to admit who their influences were when growing up.
Illmatic will be groundbreaking in the fact of lyricism and beats but Rolling Stones are the archetype in which we judge the Rock Star lifestyle and above everything else the longevity & influence they have in the entire music industry.

Kinda sad how saltly people get about his opinion of a genre of music his generation don't like.
 
Gimme Shelter is like, THE definitive protest song against the Vietnam War. It was groundbreaking then and is still so today and anybody that says otherwise is wrong. Tbh.
 

Fjordson

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Eh, I'd say "Shine A Light" is an underrated gem. Anything between the 60s and 72 is gold though, except for maybe Satanic Majesties, although there are a few good ones on there too.



Exile was their last great album. I have tried to listen to the albums after that, but they never could reach those heights again. Still, like you said, they have so many classic songs.
Yeah, I think I agree. Some Girls is pretty damn good. Not quite late 60's / early 70's good, but that may be the one exception post Exile for me.
 
Eh, I'd say "Shine A Light" is an underrated gem. Anything between the 60s and 72 is gold though, except for maybe Satanic Majesties, although there are a few good ones on there too.



Exile was their last great album. I have tried to listen to the albums after that, but they never could reach those heights again. Still, like you said, they have so many classic songs.

You should give the album Some Girls a listen.
 
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