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KILLZONE 2 - The |OT|
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Blablurn said:
Depends on the game. Typically there is no requirement to be met. I've seen 1 bars, who are fresh noobies still wet behind the ears, enter into our games. But perhaps on occasion, maybe the GAF game creator might restrict the ranks to only within range of his, thus restricting all access to players below the general pay-grade.
Vekta Cruiser serious glitch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaYjbNn0MyE
I thought after all the complains Guerrilla would test the DLC ($$$) maps thoroughly ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaYjbNn0MyE
I thought after all the complains Guerrilla would test the DLC ($$$) maps thoroughly ?
Revolutionary
Member
:lolLince said:
Understandable glitch (respawn animation glitches it)... but yeah, obligatory:
FIX THIS SHIT GUERRILLA!!
RavenFox said:
pretty easy, suicide and get revived, not a combination of magic button pressing or tricky jumps and crouch.
Revolutionary said:
understandable? I think these glitches should be easy to spot by the developers themselves or the in-house QA team... here we're, 70 days after release day, still waiting for a patch to fix the BG glitch and S&R/Bodycount exploits so we can play clan games again, yet they only bother to charge money for glitched content, way to go.
test_account
XP-39C²
Wasnt the Bodycount exploit fixed in the 1.24 patch? If you mean the no-respawn exploit.Lince said:
I understand that some of the glitches and exploits in Killzone 2 can be frustrating, and i think that everyone should be allowed to say their opinion about the game, but with all due respect, dont you think that it is alittle disrespectful to say that GG only bother to charge money for glitched content? :\ In 70 days GG have released 4 patches (1.20, 1.21, 1.24 and 1.25 (what did patch 1.25 fix/add by the way, does anyone know?)). GG also said that when patch 1.24 was released, they would start working on the next patch that would be bigger than the 1.24 patch:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone2&thread.id=309958
These things is an indication that GG is taking the bugs/exploits in Killzone 2 seriously, and that they are probably trying to fix them in the best way possible, at least in my opinion
The S&R exploit has still not been fixed, and that can be abit annoying when someone take advantage of this exploit, i agree, but i am sure that GG are looking into this exploit. I am no programmer myself, so unfortunately i have very little knowledge about programming, but i would wonder if it could take some time to implement a good solution to the S&R exploit. It sounds very easy to fix, but does anyone know if there is a good reason why it takes some time?
Hopefully the next Killzone 2 patch isnt that far away, and hopefully we will know soon enough what this patch fixes
test_account
XP-39C²
GG have released 4 patches so far for Killzone 2, and they are working on the next patch right now, doesnt that show that they are taking the problems seriously? Fair enough, some of the bigger complaints/exploits havnt been fixed in Killzone 2 yet, but it seems that GG are working on fixing issues with Killzone 2 at leastClick said:
If GG hadnt released a single patch for Killzone 2 so far and/or if they hadnt announced that they were working on a patch, or if they had said that they werent working on a patch for Killzone 2, then i would probably agree with you. I am not sure i would directly have called what GG would have done in this case as disrespectful though, since i dont think that they are directly obliged to fix the issues, and Killzone 2 has been pretty much playable from day 1 (even if things in the game could have been done better). But on the other hand, if GG wouldnt have cared to fix anything in Killzone 2, then we might have wondered why they didnt care about it, and if this ment that they wouldnt care about their fans, and in this way it could maybe be looked at as being abit disrespectful. But luckily this is not the case, at least in my opinion
I am not a programmer myself, so i dont know much about programming, but i would wonder exactly how easy and quick it is to fix these bugs/exploits and then release a patch. I wish that GG could shed some light on how they are working on the updates and why some things takes time to be fixed.
I dont say that people shouldnt be allowed to complain about Killzone 2, because the game does have some issues that can be fixed and/or done better, i agree with that, but to say that GG only bother to take payed for glitched content, isnt that alittle disrespectful to say that towards GG, especially when they have been/are working activly on patching Killzone 2? I dont mean any disrespect towards Lince, but i just wanted to ask about this.
EDIT: I added some text.
cjtiger300
Member
lunlunqq said:
Yeah, lyulf is crazy as hell!
KZObsessed
Member
Fun games tonight guys. Love the way your testicles taste Lyulf.
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I got spawned outside of the map in Radec Academy yesterday night. It was during a retrieval segment. My team rushed for the delivery point. I took a rocket blast for the team and got blown into the back wall. I got revived and I somehow ended up outside the map. I couldn't shoot anyone or anything but when I dropped down I could see forever.
cjtiger300
Member
I had way too much fun tonight! The Gaf community will keep me coming back to KZ2 MP for a long time!
test_account said:
fair enough, I agree I'm being a bit harsh with GG though not disrespectful. Fact is they released new maps with additional glitches instead of fixing the main issues which are somewhat ruining the game.
test_account said:
none taken don't worry, I enjoy your posts, we can have a nice "clean" discussion on this subject : )
on a different note... Lyulf suicide runs :lol
test_account
XP-39C²
I was only refering to the comment that they only bothered with taking payed glitched content, but ye, maybe disrespectful wasnt the best word, sorry. I should have written "abit unfair" instead.Lince said:
Ye, that is true, some issues in Killzone 2 is still yet to be fixed/changed, but i am abit confident that at least the "camp in base" exploit in S&R will be fixed in the next patch, i would at least be alittle surprised if this issue isnt being worked on. For the spawn grenades, i dont know if that will be fixed/changed anytime soon, but who knows
Thanks!Lince said:
I know that i sometimes asks abit many questions, so i just wanted to mention that i dont mean any disrespect with any of these questions. Ye, it is nice to have a "clean" discussion on this subject, i agree!
cjtiger300
Member
Wow, this thread has died! What the hell!
Nah, it's just that in relation to average-GAF, Killzone 2 players are simply more responsible family members. For one, we take our mother's day duties more serious. Killzone 2 players also have a more developed fashion sense, have whiter teeth and smell more pleasant than the GAF aggregate.
Don't know if this has been posted or not but Gamasutra has a really nice KZ2 interview up:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4019/development_lessons_from_killzone_.php
:lol
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4019/development_lessons_from_killzone_.php
:lol
polyh3dron
Banned
why the laughing face?
Umm... they haven't really patched single player at all. There are certain sections, specifically the end, where people die over and over and over. Their data mining didn't show this? People bitching on forums for weeks didn't show this? What about the fact that your AI partners die constantly, especially at higher difficulties. And what about endless spawning of enemies if you don't reach invisible checkpoints? No data on that either?
I suppose their data mining capabilities also don't tell them how many people play certain classes compared to other classes. Because if it did and they cared, they'd see that Engineer and Assault, with Saboteur close behind, are proportionally overused compared to the other classes. They'd also see that many, many games/rooms ban the use of Assault and/or grenade/rocket launchers. If their data mining fails to show them these things, all they need to do is take a look at the game search results or forums to see that there's a major issue with class and weapon balance.
They (GG) listen to a few customers about a few issues and fixed a few things that they personally feel is a problem worth fixing. There are still tons of major problems with the game that are still left unpatched/unfixed 2+ months after release.
LOL, he somewhat flamed other consoles by making this comment. If GG was really concerned with not bothering to find the "lowest common denominator," they should have been a PC-only developer, instead of selling their company to Sony.
A couple of things.
Kinda tired of playing, I thought the DLC maps would renew new interest, but I've moved on to inFamous ( sorry ) but I need new shit in my life. I got a shit ton of time out of multi player so NO COMPLAINTS!
Click, I know you got skills, but you're getting pretty sad. If you don't dig the game, why are you one o the most active posters in this thread? It honestly comes across like you got a grudge against Kittonwy for not liking R2, and are taking it out on this thread.
Honestly I don't play a TON of multi-player, but this game got quite a bit from me and that left quite an impression, I hope GG can get me to return soon
I'm all about Cole now Thanks GG!
Kinda tired of playing, I thought the DLC maps would renew new interest, but I've moved on to inFamous ( sorry ) but I need new shit in my life. I got a shit ton of time out of multi player so NO COMPLAINTS!
Click, I know you got skills, but you're getting pretty sad. If you don't dig the game, why are you one o the most active posters in this thread? It honestly comes across like you got a grudge against Kittonwy for not liking R2, and are taking it out on this thread.
Honestly I don't play a TON of multi-player, but this game got quite a bit from me and that left quite an impression, I hope GG can get me to return soon
I'm all about Cole now
Thanks GG!aj2good4you2
Member
Dante said:A couple of things.
Kinda tired of playing, I thought the DLC maps would renew new interest, but I've moved on to inFamous ( sorry ) but I need new shit in my life. I got a shit ton of time out of multi player so NO COMPLAINTS!
Click, I know you got skills, but you're getting pretty sad. If you don't dig the game, why are you one o the most active posters in this thread? It honestly comes across like you got a grudge against Kittonwy for not liking R2, and are taking it out on this thread.
Honestly I don't play a TON of multi-player, but this game got quite a bit from me and that left quite an impression, I hope GG can get me to return soon
I'm all about Cole now
everytime i join you late at night you always happen to leave the second i get in the game
Dante said:A couple of things.
Kinda tired of playing, I thought the DLC maps would renew new interest, but I've moved on to inFamous ( sorry ) but I need new shit in my life. I got a shit ton of time out of multi player so NO COMPLAINTS!
Click, I know you got skills, but you're getting pretty sad. If you don't dig the game, why are you one o the most active posters in this thread? It honestly comes across like you got a grudge against Kittonwy for not liking R2, and are taking it out on this thread.
Honestly I don't play a TON of multi-player, but this game got quite a bit from me and that left quite an impression, I hope GG can get me to return soon
I'm all about Cole now
i'm the same way.
I played a shitload of KZ2 and I'm kind of burned out on it. I need a break.
The multiplayer is absolutely fantastic, but like other top tier shooters, it has its issues that eventually prevent me from playing for it constantly for years. I'll come back to it of course, but the game needs some tweaks to add longevity (being able to play with your friends easier, party system, personal rank system so you have something to achieve by playing it besides XP, instant clan matchmaking w/ valor betting, auto-matching maps with certain maximum player counts for optimal play, etc). Still, the game is probably the best mp shooter I've played this gen even with all of its infrastructure flaws.
but Click sounds incredibly bitter that the fanbase didn't pick up on R2...sorry dude, but KZ2 is way beyond R2 with the gunplay, graphics, handling...everything, almost. I couldn't get into R2 because it felt like uncompetitive garbage for casuals or something. like there wasn't any skill involved in any of it, just huge ass 60 player matches with little production values or thought gone into the actual gameplay.
but yeah! InFamous for the next month or so, then the Uncharted 2 beta shortly thereafter
then Fat Princess
then Heavy Rain
then the new Ratchet
then MAG
then Uncharted 2
then Gran Turismo 5
then God of War 3
for fuck's sake, how am I going to have enough time to play KZ2 inbetween all that? I'll find a way periodically, but Sony's pipeline is STACKED every single month or two for the next year it seems. Hit after hit after hit. Hopefully we get KZ3 by Fall 2010 (probably not, but would be nice!)
Dante said:
You call me one of the most active posters in this thread? LOL, not really. Especially not recently.
I'm not taking my grudge "out on this thread." I'm just waiting for GG to "put their money where their mouth is." I'm waiting for them to patch this game up to a respectable state.
It has nothing to do with Kittonwy's 5+ months worth of trolling R2. Since my last call-out (10 days ago, page 502), he seems to have resisted and suppressed his urge to constantly bash that game, so that's over with (for now). But since you and JoJo brought that issue up again, out of the blue, I have to respond to it again.
BTW, just FYI Kittonwy had very little playtime in R2, whereas, I've had 3+ times more playtime than he does in KZ2. And my criticisms with KZ2 are all valid and well-informed, unlike his of R2. Another difference between us 2 is, I actually liked playing KZ2 and want this game to get better, whereas Kittonwy never gave R2 a chance, never liked playing it, and wanted it to fail hard.
Good to see the Kittonwy Defense Force is still alive and well.
Click said:
His criticisms of R2 were very valid. His playtime is irrelevant to the discussion. I didn't play more than 3 hours of R2's multiplayer because it was awful, while I've put in over 100 hours into KZ2 despite its shortcomings. I find KZ2 to be a much more fun game to play even though it isn't structured in an ideal way.
Your criticisms of KZ2 are somewhat valid, but you exaggerate and blow shit up to a ridiculous degree. No, KZ2 isn't perfect (no game is), and yes it could use improvement. R2 could just use a WHOLE LOT MORE.
The difference between KZ2 and R2 is that while KZ2 can be made better by simple infrastructure patches, R2 CANNOT. It would require a complete revamping of almost everything other than the netcode and perhaps the infrastructure. The gameplay itself, however, is just plain BAD. It's like the opposite problem of KZ2 where the gameplay is a fuckload of fun but it's just a pain in the ass to get things organized. R2 would need significant development time devoted to the map designs, gun handling, weapon balance, and gameplay modes to make it fun. Might as well not even bother when it would cost so much. Just devote those resources to the next game.