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[fallen_dawn]

You can't say anything that might kill any hype for a Sony product. Sony Defense Force will come in full force to twist the discussion to their favour. The guy was clearly comparing the tech of one product (KZ) against another (BF).. but the SDF start talking about hardware instead of the software.
You can only say words of praise and love in this thread... no discussions allowed that may kill the hype.

It's an annoyance coming into a thread dedicated to Killzone and you see a page of someone trying to show how lacking a launch game on a $399 console is compared to one on a high-end PC.

I prefer seeing discussions of Killzone in a Killzone thread than a whole heap of Battlefield gifs.

EDIT: Also, I suppose since the game has gone Gold and would be in production, there's no chance for any sort of limited/collector editions, right?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

You're.

And he's battle is a lost one because of flawed logic more than anything.

lol

 

[iamshadowlark]

lol

Autocorrect.

 

[Micromegas]

You can't say anything that might kill any hype for a Sony product. Sony Defense Force will come in full force to twist the discussion to their favour. The guy was clearly comparing the tech of one product (KZ) against another (BF).. but the SDF start talking about hardware instead of the software.
You can only say words of praise and love in this thread... no discussions allowed that may kill the hype.

Sony Defense What?

 

[travisbickle]

I can point out several things in that 1 gif that most game engines don't implement. So it's not that I'm easily impressed, more so that I critique stuff like this for a living.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about game engines, I'm an expert ....

 

[TetraGenesis]

You can't say anything that might kill any hype for a Sony product. Sony Defense Force will come in full force to twist the discussion to their favour. The guy was clearly comparing the tech of one product (KZ) against another (BF).. but the SDF start talking about hardware instead of the software.
You can only say words of praise and love in this thread... no discussions allowed that may kill the hype.

Hahahaha, you'll go far here, kid, I'm sure.

 

[Leb]

It's an annoyance coming into a thread dedicated to Killzone and you see a page of someone trying to show how lacking a launch game on a $399 console is compared to one on a high-end PC.

I prefer seeing discussions of Killzone in a Killzone thread than a whole heap of Battlefield gifs.

I mean, right, but he was specifically responding to someone who said that from a visual effects standpoint, KZ:SF surpassed anything seen on the PC to date... which is how the entire exchange came about.

 

[reKon]

He really did start all this shit be saying it looks better than ANYTHING on PC. Those are the type of inconsiderate comments that shit up a thread like this. But then again this thread hasn't really went well for a while because of people's ridiculous complaints about the X ray stuff.

 

[Comfort Jones]

Everything this game gives you seems ridiculously broken, the little robot, regen health, object highlighting, etc.

It's nice that it's kinda breaking away from CoD but it seems really poorly thought out design wise.

Looks really fuckin pretty though. I own a pretty expensive pc rig and I'm still really amazed at how good that looks.

 

[gribbles]

You can't say anything that might kill any hype for a Sony product. Sony Defense Force will come in full force to twist the discussion to their favour. The guy was clearly comparing the tech of one product (KZ) against another (BF).. but the SDF start talking about hardware instead of the software.
You can only say words of praise and love in this thread... no discussions allowed that may kill the hype.

Take that shit to GameFAQs.

 

[Fess]

The thread should be a discussion on the 9 minutes of Killzone footage, not about BF4 or console vs PC specs.

I think it's great/interesting that there even is a discussion since next gen was supposed to be quite bad compared to PC since PS4/XB1 are both mid speced PCs. The game looks amazing really. Vegetation, waterfall, mist, sun rays, destruction, etc is all awesome imo.
Only downside really is the low framerate. It's difficult to compare it to BF4 because of this. But it's a slow paced game so I think it's quite okay in this case (even though I'm generally very much against going for pretty graphics if the framerate gets below 60fps, Driveclub/Evolution won't get any praise from me until they confirm they're hitting their 60fps target)

 

[Metroid-Squadron]

I mean, right, but he was specifically responding to someone who said that from a visual effects standpoint, KZ:SF surpassed anything seen on the PC to date... which is how the entire exchange came about.

Exactly. VFX refuted that and his message got predictably interpreted as "KZ sucks", hence all the attacks against him. Some people are way too sensitive.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

Your fighting a lost battle VFX. Too many fanboys are against you.

You can't say anything that might kill any hype for a Sony product. Sony Defense Force will come in full force to twist the discussion to their favour. The guy was clearly comparing the tech of one product (KZ) against another (BF).. but the SDF start talking about hardware instead of the software.
You can only say words of praise and love in this thread... no discussions allowed that may kill the hype.

Man. It's sad that when these guys spend so much time waiting the long wait to get a GAF account approved, very few bother to read the guidelines from the mods:

- Console War. Obviously arguments about consoles, platforms, and publishers are going to get heated. Don't make things worse by calling out "xbots" or "ntards" or "fanboys" or "sdf" or "xdf" or insulting someone else by calling them one of those things. Clearly some people get a bit too attached, but the best thing you can do is try to improve conversation, not make it worse by dragging it down in the mud. It's also important to make sure you aren't getting too attached. If you find yourself getting super defensive about something or claiming that everyone other than you is "biased", chances are you should probably take a little break from the thread. Don't worry about calling out others--if moderators seem to be missing the thread, just call it to our attention via PM.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=427771


Console wars are not that serious business. Certainly not worth getting a ban for, guys.

 

[Metroid-Squadron]

Man. It's sad that when these guys spend so much time waiting the long wait to get a GAF account approved, very few bother to read the guidelines from the mods:



http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=427771


Console wars are not that serious business. Certainly not worth getting a ban for, guys.

Last I remember armchair moding was bannable

Could be wrong though.

 

[nelsonroyale]

Last I remember armchair moding was bannable

Could be wrong though.

He is drawing attention to the Terms of Service, how exactly is that 'armchair modding' exactly?

Also the guy who said he thought this game was better looking than games he has played on PC is entitled to his opinion. I agree with him in fact. Of course you can dispute this on reasonable grounds, but to beligerently angle your argument as stating an absolute fact, is surely going to put hackles up.

 

[SparkTR]

He is drawing attention to the Terms of Service, how exactly is that 'armchair modding' exactly?

Also the guy who said he thought this game was better looking than games he has played on PC is entitled to his opinion. I agree with him in fact. Of course you can dispute this on reasonable grounds, but to beligerently angle your argument as stating an absolute fact, is surely going to put hackles up.

They were both treating their views as fact, hence why everyone got pissed off on both sides.

 

[bankster]

The argument is not the PS4 vs PC.. The silly argument is that KZ:SF is technically better than BF4 and C3 on the PC...

Seriously, like where can I get a scene similar to this in any KZ:SF gameplay segment? Link please..

For a member of the master race, you seem rather insecure.

 

[Jburton]

Your fighting a lost battle VFX. Too many fanboys are against you.

You can't say anything that might kill any hype for a Sony product. Sony Defense Force will come in full force to twist the discussion to their favour. The guy was clearly comparing the tech of one product (KZ) against another (BF).. but the SDF start talking about hardware instead of the software.
You can only say words of praise and love in this thread... no discussions allowed that may kill the hype.

It's a thread about KZSF ......... you want to discuss it vs other games? ............ Make a thread, stop crying about this one.

 

[spwolf]

.

what you posted is the same .

Cant wait to actually play KZ on PS4.

 

[vazel]

I hope the semi-open gameplay delivers and it isn't the lame kind of semi-open gameplay like in Crysis 2.

 

[i-Lo]

First generation, "in game" cutscene on PS4.

 

[Padinn]

All I have to say about the BF4 & KZ comparison is...

They both look like a ton of fun!

 

[Lacix]

What is the final solution for anti-aliasing in the game, anyone knows ?

 

[i-Lo]

What is the final solution for anti-aliasing in the game, anyone knows ?

FXAA in all likelihood.

 

[RoboPlato]

First generation, "in game" cutscene on PS4.

Oh wow. I skipped the story trailer but this is excellent. Facial animation looks good and the lighting is insane.

What is the final solution for anti-aliasing in the game, anyone knows ?

I'm guessing a custom post process solution. It seems to have better coverage than when they were using FXAA.

 

[Cryoflar3]

I really want him to blink. His eyes must be dry as fuck.

 

[njean777]

Everything this game gives you seems ridiculously broken, the little robot, regen health, object highlighting, etc.

It's nice that it's kinda breaking away from CoD but it seems really poorly thought out design wise.

Looks really fuckin pretty though. I own a pretty expensive pc rig and I'm still really amazed at how good that looks.

We don't know how the game plays yet, I would wait to see if these things are broken.

 

[SniperHunter]

Everything this game gives you seems ridiculously broken, the little robot, regen health, object highlighting, etc.

It's nice that it's kinda breaking away from CoD but it seems really poorly thought out design wise.

Looks really fuckin pretty though. I own a pretty expensive pc rig and I'm still really amazed at how good that looks.

All of it is optional. Dont use it

 

[Gattsu25]

Can someone GIF 2:20 - 2:24?

 

[unholyrevenger72]

Everything this game gives you seems ridiculously broken, the little robot, regen health, object highlighting, etc.

It's nice that it's kinda breaking away from CoD but it seems really poorly thought out design wise.

This post really seems poorly thought out, because why would you a dev not tune the game's difficulty around the game mechanics?

 

[Metroid-Squadron]

It's a thread about KZSF ......... you want to discuss it vs other games? ............ Make a thread, stop crying about this one.

So comparisons against other games are allowed as long as the message is "KZ > *". Got it.

 

[i-Lo]

Can someone GIF 2:20 - 2:24?

 

[Can Crusher]

So good lol

 

[LowEndTorque]

I mean, right, but he was specifically responding to someone who said that from a visual effects standpoint, KZ:SF surpassed anything seen on the PC to date... which is how the entire exchange came about.

This is twisting the narrative a bit. This was the post that started it all:

Wow.
Best looking Fps I've seen.

Yep, that's including crysis 3 and bf4 on PC.
PS4 is a beast.

He was very clearly stating his opinion as a personal subjective opinion and not a fact.

Normally, GAF is relatively level headed when they disagree on subjective opinions about things like what games posters like/dislike etc.

But when a poster gets outraged and goes on a platform-war rampage simply because someone's opinion is inconsistent with a certain narrative that they hold near and dear, I consider that more on the side of fanaticism and less on the side of valid response.

 

[Gattsu25]

Thanks.

That is so fucking impressive.

 

[Felsparrow]

Is that a partial ragdoll on-hit effect causing that guy to slump against a wall before righting himself again?

Nothing new, but a nice effect used in GTA and such.

 

[Cheska]

My God, I tried to resist but I'm glad I watched this. Absolutely jaw dropping how amazing this game looks

 

[DanteGhost]

The game looks beautiful. I'm waiting for Infamous to buy a ps4, and I'll definitely pick this up when I do.

 

[Diablohead]

Watched the video in full screen, I know it's youtube compression but damn does it look nice, the lightning, effects going on, visual style, it's all there and it's lovely to look at.

 

[i-Lo]

 

[Micromegas]

I know that's single-player, but MP is going to be glorious on those forest-style maps. CAN'T WAIT.

 

[amstradcpc]

The argument is not the PS4 vs PC.. The silly argument is that KZ:SF is technically better than BF4 and C3 on the PC...

Seriously, like where can I get a scene similar to this in any KZ:SF gameplay segment? Link please..

Well, ND will give what you want, but better.

 

[i-Lo]

 

[i-Lo]

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

Your fighting a lost battle VFX. Too many fanboys are against you.

Too many fanboys? Are we allowed to just make sweeping statements like that now?

 

[i-Lo]

 

[Loudninja]

I love have Lo is just posting gifs,so awesome.

 

[TimeEffect]

I truly hope GG's other game is some open world/adventure type game. Let me explore.

 

[TheRealTalker]

FXAA in all likelihood.

I know when I get the game I would probably be staring at those cool screens at the back then paying attention

 

[calder]

I truly hope GG's other game is some open world/adventure type game. Let me explore.

That would be amazing. Ideally I would like a 3rd person open world game, even set in the KZ universe. But a totally new IP will be tremendous as well