It used to be, interestingly enough.
Killzone Shadow Fall 9 minutes of single player gameplay
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VFX_Veteran
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How it all began....
For shits sake.
It's a damn fine looking game and one that would be perfectly at home on the PC visually.
VFX_Veteran
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PM me..
I'm outta this thread of nonsense claiming KZ:SF > BF4 technical graphics garbage..
VFX_Veteran
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Where did I say it wasn't a damn fine looking game?? Please don't put words in my mouth.
Seriously, like where can I get a scene similar to this in any KZ:SF gameplay segment? Link please..
The only thing these games share is the fact that they're both FPS. So why do you continually compare the two especially when you're so convinced that KZS is far less superior to BF4.
something fishy
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just not impressed really. looks ok but I reckon we'll get more jump in future. hope so.
it was never a great series for me though.
it was never a great series for me though.
UpUpDownDown
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Killzone has picked different battles when it comes to graphics. Both game are equally impressive.
You know damn well that if GG had a sequence that took place in the ocean it would be the most beautiful ocean you'd ever see. Both game are great.
..... And lol at vfx_veteran's I do blah blah for a living condescending crap.
You know damn well that if GG had a sequence that took place in the ocean it would be the most beautiful ocean you'd ever see. Both game are great.
..... And lol at vfx_veteran's I do blah blah for a living condescending crap.
WordsintheWater
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And his opinion hurt your feelings so you decided to derail a whole thread?
And you had to respond, you're just as bad.
VFX_Veteran
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There was nothing condescending about my comment. In fact, there has been nothing but condescending comments made to me since I started arguing one of the poster's delirious accusations.
fastford58
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You said you were out of here...why are you still here?
SniperHunter
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This thread sucks now. Thanks a lot vfx
Amentallica
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You killed it all, VFX.
SniperHunter
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I am really starting to hate Giant bomb. I mean last year they were so enthusiastic about Wii U, they did a livestream and it was awesome and enjoyable. Nobody said anything bad or how pc games look better than Wii u games.
Now instead of telling us what's fun and cool about shadow fall they downplay the game by bringing up pc...I am guessing they won't say anything about ryse and how crysis 3 looks better than it
velociraptor
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I wouldn't completely agree with this comment. FEAR looked better than many PS3 and 360 titles, and it was released in 2005. Then Crysis came in 2007 and murdered the consoles. I struggle to think of many PS2 games which look better than Quake 3 Arena too. No idea about PS1.
The argument is not the PS4 vs PC.. The silly argument is that KZ:SF is technically better than BF4 and C3 on the PC...
Seriously, like where can I get a scene similar to this in any KZ:SF gameplay segment? Link please..
Killzone Shadow Fall can match that, I'm sure. Game isn't even out yet, how can you compare it to BF4? You haven't even gone through both games yet. None of us know how visually impressive both will be, just like people shit their pants over the crazy visuals in the full version of Killzone Mercenary.
Quit trolling.
Let's say the initial payout on any computer equipment for basic power supply, basic mother board, basic processor, basic RAM, and basic video card is pretty much a similar amount for both a console and a PC. But then as PC upgrade parts become cheaper and cheaper each gen (which is how it has trended for the past 20+ years), it means the amount of money above that initial payout for basic computer parts is a smaller increase each generation. So that means as the initial payout for basic components remains similar between PC and console, the price for a PC to surpass those console parts becomes a smaller and smaller increase over the console pricing.
So eventually, PC gaming will be as cheap as console and with cheaper games and cheaper online.
AgentOtaku
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I keep coming into these KZ threads thinking that the screenshots or videos are going to make my jaw drop and I'm going to see what's making everyone else excited. But I'm still just not seeing it. Parts of what I've seen look great but others not so much. Maybe my expectations were a bit unrealistic for a launch game. Perhaps I just need to see it in person. But in any case it's not making me want to run out and get a PS4.
That's ALL art, too. That's not tech side aside from a model deformation animation.
Glorified G
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lol, looks like this thread hurt someone's feelings. You felt that your rig was threatened and needed damage control.
TheRealTalker
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yup vfx just came in with a vacuum cleaner and sucked the joy out of everything
based of a PC game running on GOD knows what and also being a closed corridor shooter
...makes sense
njean777
Member
You are looking a compressed video, so of course it doesn't look as good as it will when it is on your tv. If KZ isn't impressive to you then maybe it just is not for you. I for one think it looks great especially coming from a 400$ box. I personally think it is the best looking launch game out of them all.
What is it about Killzone that attracts so much hate from PC gamers, or any Sony exclusive for that matter? It's not just on here, literally 90% of the comments on the KZSF story trailer is PC gamers trolling the video and circlejerking eachother.
It's the best looking console exclusive to date, so it's pretty natural that it should serve as the lightning rod.
haZethew0rld
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Not even, SF looks way better than Ryse.
Micromegas
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They did. It was in Killzone 3.
njean777
Member
PC elitists are the worst. They act superior because they have to justify that 800-1500$ purchase. If a game looks anything as good as a PC game they go ape shit and just have to shit on everything. One of my friends is this way and it is to the point were I hate to discuss games with him because not matter what I say it is always better on pc, even when the point I am discussing has nothing to do about graphics.
Did someone say Crysis 1 looks better than Killzone Shadow Fall???
Louis Cyphre
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This is looking good, really good. Wasn't a huge fan of the series but this one looks to be the best and it's more open and larger. Just think, this is just the beginning in the cycle of launch games.
I'm just hoping they do away with the onscreen pop-up messages and that it was only for tutorial demonstration. I always hated the basic help games give like press circle to crouch that constantly come onscreen. Instead of a message saying reload they should just make the player have to figure it out. Games should be a learning process, not have everything pointed out to them.
Same goes for console enthusiasts who always seem to have to compare the system they have to the competing consoles.
I'm just hoping they do away with the onscreen pop-up messages and that it was only for tutorial demonstration. I always hated the basic help games give like press circle to crouch that constantly come onscreen. Instead of a message saying reload they should just make the player have to figure it out. Games should be a learning process, not have everything pointed out to them.
Same goes for console enthusiasts who always seem to have to compare the system they have to the competing consoles.
It is a great shame that people seldom discuss and acknowledge just how good the soundtrack for the series has been. For FPS, after the Halo franchise, this is the one for me. I have always felt that the soundtrack is somewhat inspired by Star Wars:
Killzone 2- Birth of War (Retribution)
Killzone 2- Templar's Last Stand
Killzone 2- Radec's personal guards
Killzone 3- Main Menu music- And ever we fight on
The argument is not the PS4 vs PC.. The silly argument is that KZ:SF is technically better than BF4 and C3 on the PC...
Seriously, like where can I get a scene similar to this in any KZ:SF gameplay segment? Link please..
I doubt BF4 will look like that on a $399 PC. I doubt it would even be playable.
I'm getting BF4 for PC cause I have a good one
Kssio_Aug
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This Killzone looks amazing! All those attempts, that large scenarios, and those graphics will possibily make this title the best one at 1st next-gen semester. Also, the multiplayer seems to be the best in the series... can't wait to play it!
Its really sad how PC gamers cant admit it, just because they have to justify their machine superiority all the time for their constant VGA and CPU upgrades.
Its really sad how PC gamers cant admit it, just because they have to justify their machine superiority all the time for their constant VGA and CPU upgrades.
Metroid-Squadron
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Your fighting a lost battle VFX. Too many fanboys are against you.
But we are admitting it? Even VFX_Veteran said it looks good, he was just (inelegantly) stating that BF4 employs certain visual effects not found in KZ:SF, which is also accurate
Anyways, I think everyone is impressed with how just how good KZ:SF looks on a $399 piece of hardware. At the same time, I don't think any real PC gamers are actually trying to _justify_ their purchases (rather, they're just trying to remind you that their machine is more powerful than yours) because their purchases are justified every time they fire up a game.
With PC gaming, you pay a premium for a premium experience, which is pretty much the way everything works.
ccctrlaltdelete
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You can't say anything that might kill any hype for a Sony product. Sony Defense Force will come in full force to twist the discussion to their favour. The guy was clearly comparing the tech of one product (KZ) against another (BF).. but the SDF start talking about hardware instead of the software.
You can only say words of praise and love in this thread... no discussions allowed that may kill the hype.
You're pretty much right on with all your points. I know a coworker who will be picking up a PS4 and this on launch so maybe I'll have to pay him a visit and give the game a go.
Kssio_Aug
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Nothing against a PC for gaming, because I like it to, besides I do prefer a console.
But he "admited" it, because he felt that he should do it after so much pressure here.
Also, everyone knows that PC is a better machine... its impossible not to be. A console is just a set of hardware ready to run tons of games for the next 5~7 years with no upgrades at all. Its not a sorcery.
But at the same time, PC gamers love to call that argument like it was always true. In multiplatform games its obvious PC games will always be one step ahead minimum (except if its a bad port)... but we have lots of exclusive console games that looks amazing, and simply impossible to imagine running that good in a PC 5~7 years older.
Console games producers knows how to take full advantage from their hardware, because they need to. PC developed games seems to me, generally speaking, lot less optimised because they feel confortable by the existence of constant VGA upgrades. And trully speaking, is a very minority of players that have a PC powerfull enough to run all the games at full specs at 1080p or higher resolution. Thats not a thing that console gamers need to worry.
About Killzone Shadow Fall, its just amazing. It looks to me, sincerely, the best looking game till its launch date, overall.
iamshadowlark
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You're.
And he's battle is a lost one because of flawed logic more than anything.
Yeah, posts like this are absolutely lovely for quality of discussion.