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[RedAssedApe]

So I'm going to start a class action because all game boxes say 1080p on them. We all gonna be rich! Whose with me? Anyone? Hello?

 

[CHC]

Froma quick Google search apparently this loser makes a habit of filing class action suits. Hope this one puts him in the hole financially, its the equivalent of fake slipping and suing for your bruised knee.

 

[MastaKilla]

Pretty sure they've still got the class action over OtherOs going too.

 

[RPGamer92]

What was the false advertising with Halo and AC? The dedicated server thing in Halo? Well they have a good defense to that, in that they're working on it. Not really worth bringing a case for. Otherwise, I don't see what they'd sue about. You can't sue because you bought a broken game. People buy crappy products all the time; just because it's crappy doesn't make it illegal.

There's a difference between being crappy and being broken.

 

[timothyonfire]

This is so fucking stupid.

 

[DevilFox]

Eh, and I thought people could not get more dumb. Sony itself has quite a bad luck too.
If he wins, I also want a refund for every Ubisoft game.

They just want money but let's be honest, you know why devs can get away with shit? Because we allow it.

Hopefully stuff like this sets a precedent that even something as minor as 1080pr shouldn't be allowed to get by.

Shadow Fall is a bad example though. Now I don't remember the details but the "problem" came from a trick in the rendering technique. Among all the not-1080p games, KZ:SF is easily the best for that matter lol. Multiplayer only, the single player is native 1080p

 

[Beefy]

So if they can sue it for not looking as good, can I sue them for the single player being boring?

And sue MCC and AC:U and many others.

 

[vesvci]

Can someone explain how a lawsuit like this happens, but how other games like AC and Halo seemingly get away with it? I mean, I'm shocked Ubi/MS aren't sued already for that. I can understand false advertising in Killzone's case, but it seems someone could just as easily do the same for Halo/AC and with greater success.

Seriously.

Did EA ever get sued for BF4 at launch? I know investors sued, not sure about consumers.

 

[vypek]

Curious to see the outcome.

If the fans win, wonder if more companies will be more honest with their footage/promises or will we see more lawsuits follow

Definitely more lawsuits.


This actually feels really silly to me. People are THAT upset about the game?

 

[Trace]

Fucking what.

Someone going to get a lawsuit rolling over the trees in GTA5 on XB1/PS4? I mean, they were moving in the trailer.

Apparently he's never played a game under 1080p before.

 

[RE_Player]

I just got back into Shadow Fall and like the game a lot. I hope this guy doesn't win. Of all the developers out there Guriella doesn't deserve this

 

[astroturfing]

i absolutely hate misleading marketing in the videogame industry, so whatever it takes to make developers and publishers more honest about a game's features or visuals, i'm all for it.

though i'm not sure this is the right game and developers to target.... well, back in 2005 maybe

 

[ironcreed]

Please make or post in a LTTP thread. I'm curious how it'll seem to people who play it over a year after launch.

Oh, I'll be sure to.

 

[gcubed]

what a waste of oxygen this guy is

 

[batman2million]

I wonder if someone can file for MCC not working as advertised.

At one point, this is good b/c it'll make pubs and devs think twice before the market something and not deliver.

On the other hand, get a life man.

 

[hwy_61]

Our justice system is ridiculous.

 

[Bluekaveli]

If we all pitch in and do this to ubisoft then we won't get any bullshotty games anymore

 

[Trevelyon]

The world's hate boner for Sony this week strengthens.

 

[Tempesta di Fuoco]

what a waste of oxygen this guy is

Good God, you guys are overreacting so badly. Jesus.

 

[gioGAF]

This Ladore is an idiot and a prime example of how to use the legal system to troll for cash. I hope he does not receive a penny from this nonsense, instead he should be penalized for wasting people's time. Maybe he will follow this up by filing a motion against Ubisoft.

@Tempesta di Fuoco
Wait until you get sued by some moron. No one who is condemning this moron is overreacting. Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[alexandros]

This seems a tad excessive.

 

[AmuroChan]

What was the false advertising with Halo and AC? The dedicated server thing in Halo? Well they have a good defense to that, in that they're working on it. Not really worth bringing a case for. Otherwise, I don't see what they'd sue about. You can't sue because you bought a broken game. People buy crappy products all the time; just because it's crappy doesn't make it illegal.

You can sue for anything in America. It's just that most cases get settled out of court before it even gets to a trial.

 

[ironcreed]

I wonder if someone can file for MCC not working as advertised.

At one point, this is good b/c it'll make pubs and devs think twice before the market something and not deliver.

On the other hand, get a life man.

MCC seems like a bigger deal to me. I mean, Shadow Fall at least works, right?

*Disclaimer'* Not that I think EITHER deserves a fucking trial, lol.

 

[Nozem]

But the game is 1080p. Even the multiplayer is technically 1080p. It just re-uses parts of the previous frame(s). Still 1080p.

 

[Bluekaveli]

If he wins, I also want a refund for every Ubisoft game.

Lol beat me to it

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

agent from north korea

 

[The Llama]

You can sue for anything in America. It's just that most cases get settled out of court before it even gets to a trial.

I know, I'm (almost) a lawyer

I just don't see the cause of action if someone was to sue about the MCC or AC:U.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

Don't think anyone should make or lose any money out of this besides legal fees, but it would actually be a good thing if a judge did rule on this. It would set legal precedent for games companies to be punished for throwing out bogus info and bullshots. We need that to happen do we not?

 

[Trace]

But the game is 1080p. Even the multiplayer is technically 1080p. It just re-uses parts of the previous frame(s). Still 1080p.

This is what doesn't make sense to me. The image being delivered to your TV from the game is 1080p. Is some wizardry being used to make it 1080p? Yes but that's not the point.

 

[Valnen]

1080p is not that important.

Maybe not to you. But false advertising is a big deal.

 

[Creaking]

This is actually happening.

 

[shandy706]

What's up with that Vita lawsuit for all the early adopters?

 

[DidntKnowJack]

Its amazing with all the broken games being released, all the broken promises - this is what a gamer chooses to go after and seek damages.

Oh video game community, you so crazy.

 

[Korezo]

The game does look like pure shit online, Iike vaseline on your eyes.

 

[AmuroChan]

I wonder if someone can file for MCC not working as advertised.

At one point, this is good b/c it'll make pubs and devs think twice before the market something and not deliver.

On the other hand, get a life man.

The key question is does it actually say on the box that all features of the game are guaranteed to work on day 1? Common sense and assumptions do not equate false advertising.

 

[CambriaRising]

You know what, if this leads to companies having to put the ACTUAL native res on the back of the box, I'm fine with that.

 

[Samus4145]

Killzone's multiplayer graphics were blurry to the point of distraction

Umm...no?

 

[Kayant]

Wow loool this should be good... If he wins he probably will just get a refund. Still the whole thing seems kinda werid.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

This is so fucking stupid.

Where is the class action lawsuit for MCC? Or Driveclub?

 

[Berg]

I guess don't say your game is full 1080p if its not...
Which I thought it was, is it not?

 

[Trace]

The game does look like pure shit online, Iike vaseline on your eyes.

If this is pure shit I don't want to know what you think good looks like.

 

[Korten]

Umm...no?

Yeah I'm really confused about that part, the multiplayer graphics aren't blurry at all.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

it is 1080p tho.

here's hoping they don't get a dumbass judge or whevever, the technique they used online will be hard to explain.

 

[jailbird20022]

So then we can totally sue 343/MS for the master chief collection then.

still pretty stupid on either side.

 

[Mechazawa]

I thought the game was blurry because of the AA and not the psuedo-1080p?

 

[oti]

Ok US-Americans, could you do me a favour? Please sue someone or something to make Top Spin 5 real. Thank you.

 

[MJLord]

But the game is 1080p. Even the multiplayer is technically 1080p. It just re-uses parts of the previous frame(s). Still 1080p.

It outputs a full 1080p frame.

It keeps internal buffers sized at 960x1080 then using information from the same pixel 2 frames in the past it has a good chance of guessing the pixel information in the current frame.
http://www.killzone.com/en_GB/blog/news/2014-03-06_regarding-killzone-shadow-fall-and-1080p.html

There's an explanation they did that goes into more detail than the blog did, but I can't find it at the minute.

It's a really interesting technique imo.

Edit: These are more slides on the tech in SF. http://www.slideshare.net/guerrillagames/killzone-shadow-fall-demo-postmortem GG are excellent for doing their post postmortems.

 

[Loudninja]

You know what, if this leads to companies having to put the ACTUAL native res on the back of the box, I'm fine with that.

Its not going to lead to anything but more people suing for more stupid nonsense.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

If this is pure shit I don't want to know what you think good looks like.

Screenshots make it look better for MP, though. Still... "pure shit" is pushing it.

 

[AmuroChan]

I know, I'm (almost) a lawyer

I just don't see the cause of action if someone was to sue about the MCC or AC:U.

Well, you should know very well then that a lot of people will sue with no cause of action whatsoever. They sue because they can, or are misinformed, or just plain angry about something.