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Killzone: Shadow Fall |OT| Nothing Stops This Rain
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Beat the game on Hard this morning. I can't believe the reviewers and I are playing the same game.
The single player is awesome. I love the open ended-ness and the approachability of every situation. And I LOVE the fact that they don't slap you in the face with instructions on where to go. It reminds me of Half-Life (I'm not saying it's that good, settle down) where the environments are big and you have to figure out what you're doing and it isn't always obvious. There are a lot of story moments where you aren't just shooting people, plus the whole story is in first person.
Only played about 2 hours of multiplayer, I like it so far but it was a little slower than I expected. Was doing very well. I have Kof 3:1 and a win ratio of 3:1 too.
Agree with the half life comparison. I get the same vibe minus the story, which is weaker.
Everdred
Member
I would say majority of them are open. There are a couple missions that are linear.
The Xtortionist
Member
thanks!
i am really really really enjoying this game. the single player is so much fun.
The music really becomes INCREDIBLE, the industrial techno stuff is a PERFECT match for the Helghast areas especially.
Reviewers can go suck it, I rate this game's SP 9, it's better than the campaigns of its two main competitiors, COD and Battlefield. COD fatigue is far worse than this, and BF single player has always been shit.
On the downside it's a bummer that I can't see my own character when hacking into a maintenance bot, that's disappointing. I've also seen a couple LOD popups but they're very rare. The lighting in this game is incredible.
Reviewers can go suck it, I rate this game's SP 9, it's better than the campaigns of its two main competitiors, COD and Battlefield. COD fatigue is far worse than this, and BF single player has always been shit.
On the downside it's a bummer that I can't see my own character when hacking into a maintenance bot, that's disappointing. I've also seen a couple LOD popups but they're very rare. The lighting in this game is incredible.
Charles Alan Ratliff
Member
Just encountered a scripting bug on Chapter
that prevented me from progressing. I made a quick video to show it (I think it happened because I got exploded when it was supposed to activate and had to get revived), but, basically, if you're at what appears to be a
but it isn't activated and you feel like it should be (press up on the D-pad and you'll know), you'll need to restart the checkpoint. I figured I should mention it since I don't know how common the issue is, though it's probably not common at all.
There's something about the feel of this chapter that I like. These aren't spoilers at all since I'm talking about really abstract feelings here, but I'm reminded of how I felt during certain parts of
and
. It's really weird. Maybe the colors and destruction or something.
8
gravity well
There's something about the feel of this chapter that I like. These aren't spoilers at all since I'm talking about really abstract feelings here, but I'm reminded of how I felt during certain parts of
Metal Gear Solid 4
Shadow of the Colossus
sleeprockss
Banned
Are there only 12 player servers right now? I loved the chaos of killzone 2 and 3's multiplayer and this game almost has none of that in the 12 player servers.
LiLSnorpSnorp
Member
So, I'm pretty far into the game now. The story isn't great, by any means, but I am thoroughly enjoying the campaign. Not for the story, more for the just having fun playing it. New to Killzone series
LastGamer84
Member
Just finished the campaign. That was quite a ride, and did not end the way I was expecting.
I will try the MP tomorrow before work, but this has been my favorite KZ game so far, and now more than ever I think most reviewers either didn't pay attention during the story or just didn't want to give this game a fair shake.
I almost wonder if there is an "alternate" ending. Given that even with Echo's final mission, the Helghast are still basically SOL with the VSA in possession of Stahl's weapon.
I will try the MP tomorrow before work, but this has been my favorite KZ game so far, and now more than ever I think most reviewers either didn't pay attention during the story or just didn't want to give this game a fair shake.
I'm currently somewhere in Chapter 4 so I've made it past you. I find the story to be quite clear. This isn't a sandbox game. You have firm direction and objectives. Plus, all the way up to your chapter its supported by cutscenes
Perhaps I'm less picky though then a lot of people because I only play a small amount of games throughout the year. I usually grab a game with lots of player interaction (like Dark Souls), and play it for most of the year
Btw, perhaps you should just consider starting over at an easier difficulty. I started over on Easy mode myself and been really enjoying this game! I'll put on my try-hard pants for multiplayer. For singleplayer I just want to cruise, relax, and enjoy the scenary
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Just played a lot of multiplayer with a friend and man we had so much fun. This Multiplayer is super smooth. Dedicated servers + 60 fps + 1080p === PURE SOLID JOY. This one game makes my PS4 so worth the purchase
VFX_Veteran
Banned
Holy shit I just finished Chapter 3!! What a fucking level that was! Up to this point -- Best FPS of 2013. Yep, takes out Crysis 3, BF4 and Metro SP for me.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
I don't think I'll be touching the SP for a while >_>
MP is just too good.
MP is just too good.
Mr. Helios
Neo Member
Kind of with you on this one - though I'm on normal setting. The first level outdoors where the guys keep re-spawning until you disable the alarms is the worst. Does that mechanic carry over to the other chapters?
That said, I do love the weight and feel. I just don't know why I suck so bad at Killzone. I barely beat Killzone 2, and couldn't beat K3 after trying a million times. It's starting to feel like I won't be able to beat Shadow Fall either (currently on the third chapter).
PoweredBySoy
Banned
I'm just not feeling it. I'm about to chapter 8 and I'm struggling to stay interested enough to finish it. At this point what's most frustrating is the level design, and how I'm often struggling to figure out which way to go. Trying to discern which doors I can open and which I can't - because they practically look identical. Which control panels Owl should or shouldn't hack. Usually it ends up being a hand-print panel somewhere...
AI is almost non-existent. My favorite tonight was when a squad of badguys were coming out of an elevator to intercept me, so I hid for an ambush and all they did was walk off the elevator and stand there in a group. I waited a good minute for them to spread out so I could pick them off, but nope. Went in guns a'blazin' as per usual. They tried to design for encounter variety in this game, but it's just not there.
Cutscenes and dialogue are clunky with their delivery. Weird pauses with no flow. Lines that just don't resonate or often make any sense.
I don't know, I'd hate to say it, but I'm with Gies on this one. 5/10. But that's a real 5/10, not an IGN 5/10. Average. Uninspired. Muddy. A few good qualities.
I played some of this, and some Warframe tonight, and spent time with them yesterday..maybe a few hours, and I have yet to hear another humans voice in chat.
Is chat down? is no one using the free mic? I dont even get the feel that my voice was heard.
Anyone got a low down on that? This game is like a tactical masterpiece online...minus the mutes.
Edit - id like to see them make the names over the players a WEeeeeeeee bit bigger, I have put more bullets into teammates than I am proud of due to little itsy bitsy names...the devil on the other side says that the game feels so realistic that I should have to rely on visual confirmation that its an enemy or friendly, and not a red / green floating name.
its like the COD player in me is fighting against my better judgement.
Is chat down? is no one using the free mic? I dont even get the feel that my voice was heard.
Anyone got a low down on that? This game is like a tactical masterpiece online...minus the mutes.
Edit - id like to see them make the names over the players a WEeeeeeeee bit bigger, I have put more bullets into teammates than I am proud of due to little itsy bitsy names...the devil on the other side says that the game feels so realistic that I should have to rely on visual confirmation that its an enemy or friendly, and not a red / green floating name.
its like the COD player in me is fighting against my better judgement.
I'm really loving the SP. I hate to say it but I don't quite understand the MP yet. I just die and die and die and die. lol.
It took me a while to get the hang of everything in the SP. Once I did the game became an instant classic for me. It has such memorable missions/levels: The intro. The forest. The spaceship. The terrorist blowing up the building. The train rail area!
I honestly have to say I feel this game has more memorable missions than any Halo game I've ever played. In other words I hardly remember anything about Halo, maybe a couple of missions/areas that stood out. 10 years from now ask me about this game and I WILL remember.
I only wish they did a better job of making the story stick. The game doesn't explain very well why I'm doing what I'm doing. I may not know why I'm doing something but it sure is fun to do nonetheless. Great game so far. Enjoying every minute of it.
It took me a while to get the hang of everything in the SP. Once I did the game became an instant classic for me. It has such memorable missions/levels: The intro. The forest. The spaceship. The terrorist blowing up the building. The train rail area!
I honestly have to say I feel this game has more memorable missions than any Halo game I've ever played. In other words I hardly remember anything about Halo, maybe a couple of missions/areas that stood out. 10 years from now ask me about this game and I WILL remember.
I only wish they did a better job of making the story stick. The game doesn't explain very well why I'm doing what I'm doing. I may not know why I'm doing something but it sure is fun to do nonetheless. Great game so far. Enjoying every minute of it.
Holy shit I just finished Chapter 3!! What a fucking level that was! Up to this point -- Best FPS of 2013. Yep, takes out Crysis 3, BF4 and Metro SP for me.
yeah, chapter 3 was a big surprise to me. i didn't expect a level like that in a killzone game. it was great.
there is no in-game chat. you are supposed to go to your recently met players under the friends area of the pdm (ps4 menu) and invite them to a party...
yes, it's ridiculous. i read it on the killzone forums. a dev posted that information.
I'm totally enjoying the Single Player campaign. It's great!
I'm even enjoying the story so far. It's nothing deep and the characters are pretty predictable but at least it's entertaining. My favorite thing so far is the OWL and what it adds to the gameplay. The AI on your little buddy is really good and it adds so many options for how I deal with enemies. I love it!
And of course, the graphics continue to blow me away. Great stuff. I'm on like Chapter 4 so I don't know how far I am but so far, I've connected more with this Killzone than previous entries. It's got a more "Star Trek" futuristic esthetic going for it that I very much prefer to the "WW2 in space" vibe of previous games.
I'm even enjoying the story so far. It's nothing deep and the characters are pretty predictable but at least it's entertaining. My favorite thing so far is the OWL and what it adds to the gameplay. The AI on your little buddy is really good and it adds so many options for how I deal with enemies. I love it!
And of course, the graphics continue to blow me away. Great stuff. I'm on like Chapter 4 so I don't know how far I am but so far, I've connected more with this Killzone than previous entries. It's got a more "Star Trek" futuristic esthetic going for it that I very much prefer to the "WW2 in space" vibe of previous games.
Chance Hale
Member
The AI is weird because there are times where they separate into groups, flank and I'm reminded of the best of Killzone and FEAR moments but most of the time they just kind of flounder about. Wonder if it's bugged?
In any case, I really enjoyed the campaign. Outside of a weird obsession with energy sources early on the campaign was quite varied and beautiful throughout. Many of the levels had a nice degree of openness that reminded me of Crysis 2/3, which is something I much prefer to the CoD style hallways so many people seem to prefer. Also had spots where the Half-Life influence came through where you could just wonder about and listen to the lives of the people living around. Shame that Killzone continues to flounder on the potential of the story and universe it has though. Major improvement on 2 and 3 but some poor dialogue and weird character choices really set things back at times. Echo was pretty cool though and some of the audiologs were well written.
Looking forward to trying the multiplayer out.
In any case, I really enjoyed the campaign. Outside of a weird obsession with energy sources early on the campaign was quite varied and beautiful throughout. Many of the levels had a nice degree of openness that reminded me of Crysis 2/3, which is something I much prefer to the CoD style hallways so many people seem to prefer. Also had spots where the Half-Life influence came through where you could just wonder about and listen to the lives of the people living around. Shame that Killzone continues to flounder on the potential of the story and universe it has though. Major improvement on 2 and 3 but some poor dialogue and weird character choices really set things back at times. Echo was pretty cool though and some of the audiologs were well written.
Looking forward to trying the multiplayer out.
my brain just broke...no proper party system I can work around, but no team chat, where do they get off making that decision.
Such a good MP, they better fix this.
Guerilla fix this shit (had to say that!)
Edit - and how the f**k were we supposed to know that? I never saw a 'to chat, invite strangers to a party'..bizarre. I suspect they are being hammered over this.
super-famicom
Member
Multiplayer only thread here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=717455
Quote the OP for the PSN ID Google Doc link.
Quote the OP for the PSN ID Google Doc link.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Guerrilla will need to address these things in a patch:
FOV improvement
Party system
Voice chat
I just found out today that there isn't in-game chat... and this is a new-gen FPS game in 2013. Come on, Guerrilla...
FOV improvement
Party system
Voice chat
I just found out today that there isn't in-game chat... and this is a new-gen FPS game in 2013. Come on, Guerrilla...
I agree. From the comments in here you'd think it was atrocious but for a military shooter it's fine. The cutscene direction is also far, far better than the previous games.
Halo 4's story is better than this. Halo 4's story is kneecapped because it requires you to have read the novels for any sense of urgancy to be felt...but it was still coherent.
Shadow Fall's story...It's like a sunday afternoon SyFy movie that's not making the turn to So Bad It's Good.
EatinOlives
Member
I think I already know the answer to this, but does this game have tilt controls ala motion keyboard? I'd REALLY love to aim that way, but I'm betting GG didn't care enough to implement that
There's no in-game voice chat? lol That's terrible. That and the fact that you can't even see both kills and deaths after a match. And also you can't change your load out between matches without backing out of a war zone.
It's all basic stuff, I don't know how it gets left out but it's pretty ridiculous.
catpurrcat
Member
I face the same issue in part 1 and part 3! I don't get it. It's like I get pushed back two checkpoints when I resume a game.
Anyone know how or when the game saves? Only at certain checkpoints?
Urthstripe
Neo Member
Just beat it. Is there anything after the
credits? I accidentally skipped them and I know the last KZ games had post-credits stingers to set up a next game.
second/real/post-sniping
The Xtortionist
Member
You can change your loadouts ingame. It's really easy to do during the 30 seconds or so before spawning at the start of a Warzone.
Original Man
Member
the mission with
is dope
echo
It's similar to the way RE5 and 6 handles saves. There is a permanent save that you can go back to after quitting for each section of the level. Within each section are checkpoints that disappear once you quit.
catpurrcat
Member
Ouch. I understand now, thanks for the helpful response.
Really finding this save thing and the constantly being lost and wandering aimlessly kind of frustrating. I loved KZ mercenary on vita, but never felt lost (even the saving was easy thru standby mode).
Maybe I should trade in for BF4?
Thats why its so quiet in multiplayer.. wtf
Apeopleman
Member
also make the mission text bigger! i cant see that shit at all.
Yeah this is some utter bullshit. Trying to tell people that there is someone behind them is impossible, and I am not going to invite randoms strangers into my party chat cause im already talking to my friends on Teamspeak. Man, 2013 FPS without in-game voice chat, no party system. Come on GG freaking figure it out.
pretty done
Member
This is just wrong, go over it like you were gonna select it and hit square or triangle.
Good looking game. Just put two hours into the multiplayer and it's very impressive, except......
I'm lost as shit and not entirely clear what to do for some of the modes or how to use the abilities.
Also, I know I'm in the minority, but......
WHY THE FUCK DON'T PEOPLE WEAR MICS!?!?
There's nothing worse than shooters where no one is working together or even trying to communicate. I don't know if it's all those years of Socom over a decade ago, but it drives me crazy when everyone is running every which way without even attempting to coordinate something. It's part of the reason I've never gotten into Battlefield. I've always found it to just be a chaotic mess.
I'm lost as shit and not entirely clear what to do for some of the modes or how to use the abilities.
Also, I know I'm in the minority, but......
WHY THE FUCK DON'T PEOPLE WEAR MICS!?!?
There's nothing worse than shooters where no one is working together or even trying to communicate. I don't know if it's all those years of Socom over a decade ago, but it drives me crazy when everyone is running every which way without even attempting to coordinate something. It's part of the reason I've never gotten into Battlefield. I've always found it to just be a chaotic mess.