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Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 rolls out new forum rules to curb toxic behavior, which immediately sparks toxic behavior

JayK47

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Correction - you can romance two females and there are optional female "bath houses" to visit. Further, mandatory sequences indicate that Henry is heterosexual, though there is no mandatory romance, but the energy is palpable. There are what are portrayed as homosexual characters in the game, but they are not romance options and Henry does not experience scenes in which there is the indication he swings that way. But large, medieval Bohemian cities change people.
Bath houses? Installing it now.
 

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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This thumbnail wtf lol
 

kevboard

Member
And the grifting machine is picking up speed

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we have a game to cancel!

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Of course I'll fucking play KCD 2 just like I'll play Avowed. Eating good in coming month. Sorry but not sorry to those who back out.

and people said the devs were wrong when calling out these fuckheads.

but the self parody that is happening here pretty hilarious. and it's even funnier that the "fans" of these grifters will take this shit seriously, probably while the guys behind these videos laugh at how retarded their viewers are.
 
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geary

Member
To think that these people are so scummy and they tarnish the work of the devs for 1 cent per view, makes me sick to my stomach. There is no context today, everything is black and white, and if is not, you transform black to white for few cents.
 

kevboard

Member
Clearly a fantasy

and science backs it up


staunch radical male feminist on twitter ▶️ 2 years later in prison for rape
hardcore religious anti gay politician ▶️ seen running out of a gay orgy
militant anti-lolicon anime hater ▶️ Terabytes of CP found on his PC

this pattern is extremely reliable nowadays, it's almost scary. it's like military secrets getting leaked in War Thunder forums, it happens so often that people started making "reset the clock's" memes about these.
you'd think people would learn from others and make their tendency at projecting less obvious
 

Lokaum D+

Member
It is like a parody at this point, the dude is trying so hard to justify it lol. It is clear they are no longer independant but with Embracer and that came with changes. Henry was heterosexual in the first game and this change is for woke points.
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He is not wrong, like he said Henry is YOU.

tbh i think that some of you guys that are complaining about It, has some kind of problem with your own sexuality, its not normal for someone that is sure about it to be so on edge over an option of romance in a vídeo game
 
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Life Diff

Member
Can you chose to be racist? How many slurs does Henry have the option of yelling out? Can Henry be trans? I mean it's a role playing game and if you wanna role play as a trans Henry why won't the game let you? Are there pronouns as an option in the game? Why not? Why can't I roleplay as a Xir?


Seems to me there are select things they explicitly chose to allow you to roleplay as and many things they chose to not allow. I wonder what their selection process was.
Imagine being this mentally ill, bet you’d get scared if someone dressed as a pronoun selector for Halloween
 

Firestartah

Member
He is not wrong, like he said Henry is YOU.

tbh i think that some of you guys that are complaining about It, has some kind of problem with your own sexuality, its not normal for someone that is sure about it to be so on edge over an option of romance in a vídeo game
Bullshit. Everytime I replay Mass Effect 3 I feel annoyed that just cause I use some Paragon dialogue with Cortez he suddenly think I'm into him and eventually tries to get into a relationship. It is weird and the majority of gamers arent interested in it. The moment you dont draw a line and give these people an inch, you get where we were last years with atrocities like Concord, Veilguard and Dustborn.
 
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Lokaum D+

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Bullshit. Everytime I replay Mass Effect 3 I feel annoyed that just cause I use some Paragon dialogue with Cortez he suddenly think I'm into him and eventually tries to get into a relationship. It is weird and the majority of gamers arent interested in it. The moment you dont draw a line and give these people an inch, you get where we were last years with atrocities like Concord and Dustborn.
How many times in your life ( i did a lot ) a woman said something to you that u missunderstood and suddenly you thougth she was into you, until you made weird ?

It happens every day, i had gay friends that missunderstood something i said and tried to hit on me, thats fucking life.
 
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StereoVsn

Gold Member
Same for me. As long as I am not forced into something and can roleplay Henry like I want...everything is fine.
Yep, seems to be a role play option if you want to go that route and he especially mentions that characters are aware it was something that was forbidden (Church, nobility, society, etc).

Also, that scholar / merchant being from Mali empire makes sense in context. I believe Mali was pretty large and ascendant during that time period and trade with Middle East was flourishing at the time.

So no unskippable penetration after all. 😉

Edit: The line about treatment of women in a Sunni Sultanate in year 1400 is a bit sus though. They all had very strict restrictions of what women could do, face/body coverings and so on.

Having a black NPC from Mali who met Sigismund in the Middle East is somewhat believable considering the circumstances though.
 
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Buggy Loop

Gold Member
Yep, seems to be a role play option if you want to go that route and he especially mentions that characters are aware it was something that was forbidden (Church, nobility, society, etc).

Also, that scholar / merchant being from Mali empire makes sense in context. I believe Mali was pretty large and ascendant during that time period and trade with Middle East was flourishing at the time.

So no unskippable penetration after all. 😉

That's the thing also with Warhorse being authentic with the period

If you go butt fucking dudes, buckle up, I'm almost certain that if caught, you'll be BRANDED. They did it for thieving. I imagine in medieval times that's even not the worse faith for those caught in the act.

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And if caught a 2nd time when you already have the branding? Well for thieves its the execution.

 

StereoVsn

Gold Member
That's the thing also with Warhorse being authentic with the period

If you go butt fucking dudes, buckle up, I'm almost certain that if caught, you'll be BRANDED. They did it for thieving. I imagine in medieval times that's even not the worse faith for those caught in the act.

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And if caught a 2nd time when you already have the branding? Well for thieves its the execution.


Certainly will be interesting to see how the dev handles various situations.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
These guys are such morons. The game is probably gonna be the most amazing first person RPG in years, their loss I guess

Yep, and their pathetic attempts at creating a boycott will no doubt be just as ineffectual as the one their political opposites tried to impose on the first game - provided the game itself is good.
 
staunch radical male feminist on twitter ▶️ 2 years later in prison for rape
hardcore religious anti gay politician ▶️ seen running out of a gay orgy
militant anti-lolicon anime hater ▶️ Terabytes of CP found on his PC

this pattern is extremely reliable nowadays, it's almost scary. it's like military secrets getting leaked in War Thunder forums, it happens so often that people started making "reset the clock's" memes about these.
you'd think people would learn from others and make their tendency at projecting less obvious
Was an epiphany when I learned that the things that made me act out in anger were the things that I was most ashamed of.

It’s sad it took me about 40 years to really grasp it.
 

Trilobit

Member
Clearly a fantasy

and science backs it up


So you are blaming gay people for being hateful towards gay people? That sounds homophobic.
 
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GymWolf

Member
It is like a parody at this point, the dude is trying so hard to justify it lol. It is clear they are no longer independant but with Embracer and that came with changes. Henry was heterosexual in the first game and this change is for woke points.
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Tbf, it can happen, sometimes you hear stories of married men\women that chance sexuality, i had a client that did that and he had 3 kids...

Closeted gays with very religious parents go all the way in trying not to get caught or trying to repress their real self for years.

I don't have a race in this horse so take my words as you want.
 
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Firestartah

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Tbf, it can happen, sometimes you hear stories of married men\women that chance sexuality, i had a client that did that and he had 3 kids...

Closeted gays with very religious parents go all the way in trying not to get caught or trying to repress their real self for years.

I don't have a race in this horse so take my words as you want.
Thing is, why do we need to address these edge case scenarios in video games, for what percentage of gamers do we account this for? 1% ? no I'm not exaggerating, if general pop is 3-4% gay, how many are gamers and how many are not just Sports/COD, that actually play these types of game, an RPG. In reality you talk about 0.5% of the population.
Why does the main bulk of gamers who are heterosexual need to feel weird (sure not all, some of us do feel weird) with these things added when it is aimed at such a low nr. of customers.

It just feels added cause Blackrock said it should, just for changing behaviors and agenda. If there was a significant part of the population interested in this, you could make a case, but thats not reality.
 

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
Being gay in BG3 - Good. Being gay in KCD2 - Bad. Such hypocrites. It all depends on if they like the game or not.
It's absolutely not the same. Henry is straight in the first game and you can romance Bianca which is like a pretty big part of the game DLC. And while that won't change anything for me when I play the second game, it's tiring to see every game trying to appeal to the DEI audience especially when you take the context/period/history into account AND what has been developed in the first game.
Imagine a gay character, who has never shown any interest in the opposite sex, suddenly becoming straight if you want. DEI players will go crazy for this.

And Bianca was my girl!

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Btw this is my Steam profile, as you can see I have almost 400 hours in BG3 and it's one of my favorite game ever so no, I don't really care if a character is gay/trans/whatever. But I care about consistency and logic and those comments by Vara contradict the first game.

 

Braag

Member
I don't think this is a hill worth dying on. Is it a little weird that Henry can now suddenly be gay? Yeah a little, but ultimately you can choose yourself what route to go on. Also Henry being an established male character means that all the characters you can romance aren't bi for the player's convenience, like in BG3 or Veilguard.
 

Emedan

Member
It's absolutely not the same. Henry is straight in the first game and you can romance Bianca which is like a pretty big part of the game DLC. And while that won't change anything for me when I play the second game, it's tiring to see every game trying to appeal to the DEI audience especially when you take the context/period/history into account AND what has been developed in the first game.
Imagine a gay character, who has never shown any interest in the opposite sex, suddenly becoming straight if you want. DEI players will go crazy for this.

And Bianca was my girl!

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Btw this is my Steam profile, as you can see I have almost 400 hours in BG3 and it's one of my favorite game ever so no, I don't really care if a character is gay/trans/whatever. But I care about consistency and logic and those comments by Vara contradict the first game.

That's Theresa.. Bianca died in the prologue though she was Henrys GF before getting killed.

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Woops didn't see the reply above me.. sorry
 
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Kreen101

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it a little weird that Henry can now suddenly be gay?
The intellectual concept of "being gay" didn't exist in the Middle Ages. Nor did the idea of "sexual orientation". What did exist was homosexuality and homosexual acts, but how they were seen -- including by the people who partook in them -- was completely different from today. Homosexual acts were not something that was "on the menu" of your "sex life" and that you could try out in certain circumstances, like the game seems to indicate. The idea of there being equivalence between heterosexuality and homosexuality (two intellectual notions that also didn't exist in the medieval mindset in the same way they do now) was unknown, even to people who were homosexuals. "Lying with a man" was something that a lot of people didn't even know existed or was possible, to give you an idea. So making Henry a character that entertains the idea of trying this act is not historically or psychologically plausible, considering what we know about him from the first game and the world he lives in.

It's not the end of the world and not a deal-breaker, but it's a stupid idea, and people can point that out, same they would with any other dumb or unnecessary story ideas, especially if one is a stickler for historical accuracy (to be honest, KCD 1 and I assume this one are not THAT historically accurate. There are many characters, situations and dialogue choices throughout that would not really have been plausible in the era depicted).
 

GymWolf

Member
Thing is, why do we need to address these edge case scenarios in video games, for what percentage of gamers do we account this for? 1% ? no I'm not exaggerating, if general pop is 3-4% gay, how many are gamers and how many are not just Sports/COD, that actually play these types of game, an RPG. In reality you talk about 0.5% of the population.
Why does the main bulk of gamers who are heterosexual need to feel weird (sure not all, some of us do feel weird) with these things added when it is aimed at such a low nr. of customers.

It just feels added cause Blackrock said it should, just for changing behaviors and agenda. If there was a significant part of the population interested in this, you could make a case, but thats not reality.
Like i said, i don't even care about the game, i was just explaining that what vavra said is technically true.

If you are gonna have multiple dudes hitting on you in the game to a point where it's clearly pandering then you can be mad about it, but if there are just a few occasion where the thing comes out with one maybe 2 characters in a 100 hours game then i don't see a big problem, but then again, i have kinda of an high tolerance for woke if i really like a game for other aspects.

If inserting like 2% of dei shit gave vavra more money to make the game overall better and bigger, then i think most people are gonna be ok with it.
 
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MMaRsu

Member
I mean you can be gay in Assassins Creed Odyssey. Its just a choice though and isnt forced on for you and the game isnt woke for it.
 
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pudel

Member
I mean you can be gay in Assassins Creed Odyssey. Its just a choice though and isnt forced on for you
But AssCreed Odyssey was really horrible in that regards. When I played with the dude....there were maybe 2 girls which I could "interact" with...and than literally 20 guys who asked for my ass. WTF! And the whole relationship thing was only a "blacked out" screen and that was it...nothing else, nothing more. Typical Ubisoft checklist feature. Thats exactly how not to do it.
 

MMaRsu

Member
But AssCreed Odyssey was really horrible in that regards. When I played with the dude....there were maybe 2 girls which I could "interact" with...and than literally 20 guys who asked for my ass. WTF! And the whole relationship thing was only a "blacked out" screen and that was it...nothing else, nothing more. Typical Ubisoft checklist feature. Thats exactly how not to do it.

I think that's just who you encountered. All these characters can be romanced by either character and theres not more dudes than women

 
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