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Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 rolls out new forum rules to curb toxic behavior, which immediately sparks toxic behavior

We need Vara Dark on BLACKED.
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Can you chose to be racist? How many slurs does Henry have the option of yelling out? Can Henry be trans? I mean it's a role playing game and if you wanna role play as a trans Henry why won't the game let you? Are there pronouns as an option in the game? Why not? Why can't I roleplay as a Xir?


Seems to me there are select things they explicitly chose to allow you to roleplay as and many things they chose to not allow. I wonder what their selection process was.
Obviously the game isn't going to make Henry a bigoted piece of shit, which would offend a wide swath of gamers

And gay people make up like 5% of the population. Unlike peoples views on transgenders, people acknowledge that gay people exist. It would be silly to not represent any gay people in a big RPG. Trans people today represent like 1% of population, it was almost certainly much less in mideval Europe
 

Trilobit

Member
Obviously the game isn't going to make Henry a bigoted piece of shit, which would offend a wide swath of gamers

But it's an RPG and those people don't have to choose the racist options. Based on the logic of some people in this thread he should be able to do all manner of things because hey, "you can choose to not do those things". Will the game allow me to play Henry as a Hispanic person, seeing as a big portion of humanity are of that ethnicity? Should he be able to be played as a person who's attracted to his own family members and even be able to pursue a romance towards his mother or an older sister if they were in the second game, as incestuous people exist?

Eh, Vávra left his previous studio when management forced him to do things he didn't want to do. He is a dollar multimillionaire now who could chill on the beach with his wife and three kids if he wanted to, instead he is working his ass off for 7 years to make some of the most ambitious games on the planet. If you think he would do that when being forced to do stuff he doesn't want to do, you don't know him. Which is fair, since he is Czech and you haven't read the thousands of articles and seen hundreds of interviews he has done over the last 20 years. But I can guarantee that anything that is in the game is there because he either put it there, or agreed with his fellow designers was interesting for it to be there.

He sold Warhorse so he's basically a sell-out. As far as I know KCD1 was a success so if he truly valued his independence he could have stayed completely independent? But apparently money was more important.
 
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Lokaum D+

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Can you chose to be racist? How many slurs does Henry have the option of yelling out? Can Henry be trans? I mean it's a role playing game and if you wanna role play as a trans Henry why won't the game let you? Are there pronouns as an option in the game? Why not? Why can't I roleplay as a Xir?


Seems to me there are select things they explicitly chose to allow you to roleplay as and many things they chose to not allow. I wonder what their selection process was.
Well, lets be real, Cumans arent viewed as good ppl on the game and are refered in all kind of bad way, i dont remember i've seeing a Black person in the game, also, u are free to go out at night killing as many women and poor pll as you want, so just cause you cant say racist thing It dosnt mean you cant act like one.
 
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Denton

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He sold Warhorse so he's basically a sell-out. As far as I know KCD1 was a success so if he truly valued his independence he could have stayed completely independent? But apparently money was more important.
Vávra never owned majority stake in Warhorse. To found the studio he needed over million dollars and external investor (czech coal "baron" Bakala) provided that (as well as majority of KCD budget), and he then owned over 70% of Warhorse. It took them 2 years to find the investor, btw. Bakala then wanted to realize gains from his investment, that's why the studio was sold. But Vávra and Klíma (WH co-founders) did meet with Wingefors (CEO of Embracer) and received assurance that creative side of the game would not be influenced. Which is why they agreed to stay onboard after the sale.
 
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M0G

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So you're telling me the roleplay game let's the player make roleplay decisions? It appears to be an option and nothing more. As long as it's a dangerous option, it'll fit in with the period just fine. It doesn't sound like half the cast are going to be DEI list ticks.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Don't care about the gay stuff, but those claims about the game being influenced by Embracer have me a bit worried. Hope the new game still keeps the historic authenticity and doesn't go full revisionist mode.
 
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Buggy Loop

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He seems to have added them himself, hence the colour differences.

This is whats showing up for me on the main page:

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Lgbt is now on the full expanded list though, so let's see what it looks like in a few days time.

So it would be region based?

The Chairman The Chairman , what region are you from? Are the tags still there?
 

GHG

Member
So it would be region based?

The Chairman The Chairman , what region are you from? Are the tags still there?

The tags he added are a different colour.

You can add/vote for your own tags and they will appear first for you (and you alone). For example I just added immersive sim and this is how it now appears on mobile (the tag colour differences for your own added tags appear on desktop):

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Buggy Loop

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The tags he added are a different colour.

You can add/vote for your own tags and they will appear first for you (and you alone). For example I just added immersive sim and this is how it now appears on mobile (the tag colour differences for your own added tags appear on desktop):

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Aaaahhhhh, thanks for explanation

The Chairman The Chairman , why you acting surprised to see tags you voted for?

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The tags he added are a different colour.

You can add/vote for your own tags and they will appear first for you (and you alone). For example I just added immersive sim and this is how it now appears on mobile (the tag colour differences for your own added tags appear on desktop):

HLuHCSC.jpeg
Aaaahhhhh, thanks for explanation

The Chairman The Chairman , why you acting surprised to see tags you voted for?

Evil Eye Stare GIF by MOODMAN
Nope you guys are just coping, here is a picture when i'm not even logged in and it still shows the LGBTQ+ tag and the DEI tag when i expand the list of popular tags

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pudel

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I am not logged in and I can see the LBCDEF+ tag. So yeah....some people are really mad now. I am still thinking this game is everything but yr usual DEI slop (no pronouns, no SBI, actual nice women with boobs, swearing language left and right)....they just made a mistake with giving Henry gay options. 🤷‍♂️
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Nope you guys are just coping, here is a picture when i'm not even logged in and it still shows the LGPTQ+ tag and the DEI tag when i expand the list of popular tags
DEI appears nowhere for me tho? Seems like you got caught buddy.
 
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I am not logged in and I can see the LBCDEF+ tag. So yeah....some people are really mad now. I am still thinking this game is everything but yr usual DEI slop (no pronouns, no SBI, actual nice women with boobs, swearing language left and right)....they just made a mistake with giving Henry gay options. 🤷‍♂️
One of the early sections of the game has Hans spying on naked women bathing in a pond. Henry is with him. Something like that would never be in a DEI game. This is still going to be the most uncompromised AAA game in a long time

And I think it is extremely funny that a bunch of bigots will no longer play due to completely optional RPG mechanics
 

GHG

Member
LGBTQ+ appeared to me now also since my post so something happened.

GHG GHG you see you?

Yep same, now appearing at the 3rd top one for me.

Nope you guys are just coping, here is a picture when i'm not even logged in and it still shows the LGBTQ+ tag and the DEI tag when i expand the list of popular tags

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DEI appears nowhere for me still and Lgbt isn't in the top 2 tags.

So yes, you added them to the game for yourself, hence they appeared as your top 2.
 
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JayK47

Member
LOL. Don't worry guys, it's just the tip.

More like the tip of the iceberg. Perhaps it is a good thing I never played the first game. I have no expectations. I was thinking to jump in on this game hoping they would improve it across the board. This is not what I was thinking by improvement. Seems very modern audience to me. I am less interested now. Definitely wait and see.
 

Exoil

Member
Pre-ordered as soon as it was possible. First game is one of my favorite games of all time and this is looking to one up it in every way possible.
Henry can fuck dudes? Ok, cool. Guess someone will get off on that. Won't win over the other forum though, not until Vávra becomes Danielle and dyes her hair that purplepinkish colour that seems popular. And even then I'd see them have a hard time embracing him.
 

Lokaum D+

Member
They did change his sexuality. He's bisexual now.
No, he is not

Lets do an exercise here since ppl are stupid or just like to act like one.

You are in a bar and a gay guy walks to you and say " You are handsome, lets go out and have some fun ?", you are a straight guy your entire life, listening to this, some options on how to answer appeasr in your mind.

Polite: No thanks i like girls.
Aggressive: Punch the guy in the face
Romance: Yeah, i would like to suck your dick.

Having the option to romance the gay guy dosnt make u gay or bi, so as long as you play Henry as a straight guy it ll change absolutely nothing about his char.
"ahhhh but someone can pick the gay option" Who cares what other ppl do, play your game as a straight guy and thats it.
 
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JayK47

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So the first game, which I have not played, did not let you role play romance options, but the sequel will? That is quite the change. And why even do it? It really comes across as pandering.

Also, just because BG3 did something, does not mean every new game should. I liked BG3 well enough, but I was pretty sick of turning down relentless advances from every jackass at camp every night. And when I said no, they didn't take it very well either. It seems they wanted an orgy every night to be happy. A minor annoyance overall, but still an annoyance. I do not think the BG3 approach is applicable for the Kingdom Come games, which seem to be far more interested in historical accuracy and are less about fantasy like BG.
 
So the first game, which I have not played, did not let you role play romance options, but the sequel will? That is quite the change. And why even do it? It really comes across as pandering.

Correction - you can romance two females and there are optional female "bath houses" to visit. Further, mandatory sequences indicate that Henry is heterosexual, though there is no mandatory romance, but the energy is palpable. There are what are portrayed as homosexual characters in the game, but they are not romance options and Henry does not experience scenes in which there is the indication he swings that way. But large, medieval Bohemian cities change people.
 
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