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[Kotaku] It's Time To Stop Giving Xbox Boss Phil Spencer A Pass
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
nani17
are in a big trouble
Punished Miku
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I still think he's the best man for the job right now. Xbox is in uncharted territory in terms of transitioning from being a platform holder, running a major sub, planning a PC UI, all while a lot of customer demographic and development cost elements in gaming are just as rapidly shifting for everyone. They're literally in the middle of a transformation of every aspect of their business, that he's executing. Would be pretty ridiculous to put in a new person in the middle of that. Not sure what anyone realistically expects to happen there.
Tango will go down as the worst thing under his tenure though. Even the Xbox console dying itself is not that big a deal when they'll be positioned on PC.
Once they've transitioned to a fully 3rd party publisher, it's not going to really matter who runs it. Every 3rd party publisher CEO is the same. Profit driven entirely, and looks to new trends. That's all that will be left to do and they'll get someone else.
Tango will go down as the worst thing under his tenure though. Even the Xbox console dying itself is not that big a deal when they'll be positioned on PC.
Once they've transitioned to a fully 3rd party publisher, it's not going to really matter who runs it. Every 3rd party publisher CEO is the same. Profit driven entirely, and looks to new trends. That's all that will be left to do and they'll get someone else.
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FunkMiller
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ChorizoPicozo
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I mean, is anyone surprised if that was the case?Phil bros its getting worse
What a fucking piece of shit.
The whole Xbox family is starting to stink really bad, it really is the cancer of gaming.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
pill spencer
strategies makes no sense destroyed xbox 360 the best
strategies makes no sense destroyed xbox 360 the best
Kacho
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NuclearDiarrhea
Member
They're right. Anytime Xbox does something good, Phil gets all the praise. Every time, they fuck up, it's always Satya Nadella or Don Matrick's fault. So tiresome.
SJRB
Gold Member
Unironically Microsoft has no games left to advertise, lol.
IAmRei
Member
i see kotaku is siding with us recently. i find two times already. and i find it's not surprisingly shocking, but yea, sometimes people change (especially if it's about money in stakes)
Kacho
Gold Member
We got better sauce than this? Megaton if true...Phil bros its getting worse
Kacho
Gold Member
You really think things will improve when Sarah Bond inevitably takes over?
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
2016 was time to stop giving him a Pass to any non-shills. Giving him a pass is why the last decade has been terrible for xbox.
digital_ghost
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Bloobs
Al Pachinko, Konami President
NuclearDiarrhea
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No.
Punished Miku
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There is no other path for any CEO of any gaming company, including PS. Cut costs, put out GAAS games, try to release on more platforms. Not sure what anyone thinks is going to happen. There's broader industry trends going on. It'll hit the weaker companies first, but it's hitting everything. There's no magic CEO way out of it. So yeah, I agree.
Topher
Identifies as young
In the world where he is still in charge of Microsoft Gaming.
Killjoy-NL
Member
And it crossed nobody's mind that Spencer might have been put in place to oversee the transition to 3rd party publishing, with the possibility of maybe lasting one more gen after this one?
Everything that has happened since he took over alluded to everything we have seen happening the past year or so.
digoutyoursoul
Member
They should have been competing far better than what they have been in terms of games , hardware and features. It’s none sense when people say they could not compete with PlayStation, they can and should have been. It’s a people problem.
You look at the 360 how ahead they were in console online and user experience and actually had games for those experiences to compliment the content.
Now look at it, it’s no where what it should be.
They had a shit generation with the Xbox One , so what did they do? Launch a console with a shit name, a bland design and a user experience barely an improvement on its predecessor all the while using their media allies to big up backwards compatibility because they had no launch line up of a showcase title.
Look at that showing for Halo Infinite, clueless, and then they tried to blame the difficulties of the pandemic for that poor showing when the pandemic lockdowns had been in effect for barely a handful of months.
As Xbox fans we should be calling these things out. One thing I will say about some PlayStation fans is they wouldn’t have tolerated half the shit under this guys “leadership”. No chance.
NickFire
Member
The outlet is correct that its time to stop giving him a pass. I still find it odd that they are continuing to praise his big idea in the face of these closures. I believe there's a fair question regarding the correlation of the big idea to these layoffs. I don't profess to know the answer to the question. But it is hard to take certain claims seriously, about profitability, record engagement, blah blah blah. A whole lot of people are getting laid off despite what felt like nothing but success in public facing comments, in my humble opinion.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Threadworthy?adamsapple you doing the honor?
Think it should be
ArtHands
I'm sure he's itching to make another thread
graywolf323
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iHaunter
Member
Not single handedly. Who was that clown that launched Xbox One?
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
FalconPunch
Member
Kotaku is about 5 years late to the party. 5 years ago, you could clearly see this guy didn't know what he was doing and he was going to kill xbox. I mean, just the way the series x was released should have gotten him fired. Releases a console with no new games, no new ui, no new controller, etc. Dude failed badly.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Threadworthy?
Let’s see if it appears at the June showcase
GHG
Gold Member
Exactly.
The important thing in all of this is that he's ensured the studio behind Bleeding Edge survive.
That alone is worthy of at least another decade at the helm of Xbox.
Hail Phil.
coffinbirth
Member
Say what you want, but he's probably the only reason Xbox still exists, let alone has a future at all. Sure, many will say that would've been for the best, but then where would we be? The industry would be even worse, IMHO.
I'm sure that if Phil had his druthers, stuff like this would never happen and sales milestones wouldn't matter...but he, like most, is beholden to his corporate overlords as much as the next guy. So go ahead, fire the motherfucker,but if you think the person that would be replacing him would be any better or somehow convince Microsoft that profits don't matter, you're delusional, at best. GamePass was a Hail Mary not only for Xbox, but the obviously untenable state of AAA games publishing as well.
Megacorporations and investor groups are playing monopoly with ALL forms of entertainment these days, not just gaming...and the results are sterile, soulless products bereft of the art portion of the form. Reminds me of old Hollywood and the CBS Records era of music. They were buying up the art, artists and even the goddamned instruments they were being played on. The suits are running the show. This is peak capitalism. AI is The Beatles now.
The industry (world) is fucked, writ large.
Luckily the artform is not dead, nor is the passion of the people that create and enjoy it.
Speak with your wallet.
I'm sure that if Phil had his druthers, stuff like this would never happen and sales milestones wouldn't matter...but he, like most, is beholden to his corporate overlords as much as the next guy. So go ahead, fire the motherfucker,but if you think the person that would be replacing him would be any better or somehow convince Microsoft that profits don't matter, you're delusional, at best. GamePass was a Hail Mary not only for Xbox, but the obviously untenable state of AAA games publishing as well.
Megacorporations and investor groups are playing monopoly with ALL forms of entertainment these days, not just gaming...and the results are sterile, soulless products bereft of the art portion of the form. Reminds me of old Hollywood and the CBS Records era of music. They were buying up the art, artists and even the goddamned instruments they were being played on. The suits are running the show. This is peak capitalism. AI is The Beatles now.
The industry (world) is fucked, writ large.
Luckily the artform is not dead, nor is the passion of the people that create and enjoy it.
Speak with your wallet.
LostDonkey
Member
Top man Phil.
Xbox is in the best hands possible.
Xbox is in the best hands possible.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
PlayStation is the only gaming device we need
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cormack12
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Phil aside and I'm not sure if Sony have an equivalent but they need someone to oversee all their studio's and their content.
Spider-Man 2 looked great but Sony take no prisoners telling the lead guy that it's not up to scratch and pull their finger out.
Xbox to me seems like 'too friendly' to studio's and end up accepting a bit of mediocrity instead of having the balls to say this is a flagship IP, fucking improve it now.
Spider-Man 2 looked great but Sony take no prisoners telling the lead guy that it's not up to scratch and pull their finger out.
Xbox to me seems like 'too friendly' to studio's and end up accepting a bit of mediocrity instead of having the balls to say this is a flagship IP, fucking improve it now.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
ShadowkillXNA
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
That's the former Turn 10 studio head who's supposed to be doing that.
Failing upwards
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Somebody literally needs to ask Phil what his excuse would be for buying all these companies that produce little to no games and doesn't know what to do with the studio that they bought. And why were people of cheerleading when they bought these other big corporations like activision? Too busy wanting to lick the boots of your favorite platform older and I realize what's best for the industry specially when it comes to one of the platform holders that is the worst. That's your Microsoft.
Kacho
Gold Member
That's Matt Booty's job. He sucks at it.
Topher
Identifies as young
Eh......sounds like a lot of speculation. Here is the video timestamped where Grubb starts talking about Perfect Dark. Certainly doesn't sound good, that for sure....
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