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Ryck said:Got this one for the wife the other day
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8880874&type=product&id=1210982227895
Apparently its a really good deal specs wise
SYSTEM COLOR Midnight Blue edit
PROCESSOR Intel® Core 2 Duo T5850 (2.16GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache) edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate Edition SP1 edit
DISPLAY Glossy, high contrast, widescreen 17.0 inch display (1440 x 900) edit
VIDEO CARD 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT edit
MEMORY 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz edit
HARD DRIVE Size: 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) edit
OPTICAL DRIVE CD / DVD writer (DVD+/-RW Drive) edit
WIRELESS NETWORK CARDS Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-Card edit
INTEGRATED WEBCAM Integrated 2.0 Megapixel Webcam edit
BATTERY OPTIONS 85Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell) edit
SOUND OPTIONS Integrated Sound Blaster® AudigyHD Software Edition edit
My Software & Accessories
ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE Trend Micro Internet Security 15-months edit
OFFICE SOFTWARE No Productivity software pre-installed edit
My Service
WARRANTY AND SERVICE 2Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor, 24x7 Phone Support edit
DATASAFE ONLINE BACKUP Included 3 GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1Yr edit
DIAL-UP INTERNET ACCESS No ISP requested edit
ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM
Network Card Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1
Labels Windows Vista Premium
Processor Branding Intel Centrino Core Duo Processor
DOMS Camera Mod Premium Deep Navy Blue with Soft Touch LCD back color w/ 2.0M pixel Camera
PHOTO AND MUSIC SOFTWARE No Entertainment software pre-installed
1440x900 on a 17" screen?Zapages said:EDIT: How's this?
zoku88 said:1440x900 on a 17" screen?
That thing better not be over $1K...
NovemberMike said:For the record, Nvidia just came out and said that all G84 and G86 (8400 and 8600) processors are faulty and will likely fail soon (think RROD). Might want to take a look at an ATI card or wait for the 9600.
EDIT: Just saw this on Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220278
EDIT2: This one is better but doesn't have bu-ray.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220281
zoku88 said:You shouldn't get anything bigger than a 15.4" for school...
EDIT: I try to stay away from Acer, personally...
Why are you trying to get giant laptops? They're a waste of money. You're going to school :-/ You'll want something that you can actually carry around.Zapages said:Are Acer that bad? Our neighbors have one and I heard nothing bad about it.
Are Intel Integrated chips any good in comparison to the Nvidia or ATI ones???
How's this one: http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=213348#prodspecs
zoku88 said:Why are you trying to get giant laptops? They're a waste of money. You're going to school :-/ You'll want something that you can actually carry around.
As far as Acer quality, YMMV...
And what do you mean by 'good'? Performance wise or battery wise?
Performance wise, they absolutely suck.. Battery wise, they're the best (obvious reasons.)
JzeroT1437 said:If you're just getting it for school, you don't need more than a Dell Inspiron 1525. I dunno why you're looking at these 1000+ laptop models. It seems like a gratuitous wasting of money to turn an academic tool into a status symbol or toy.
That 4-year life thing you want is kind of a dream. Specs wise, anything you buy today won't have great performance in 4 years... and the bigger laptops you keep on bringing up have worse performance than many of the 15.4" laptops (heck, the one I have now that I bought last year was faster.)Zapages said:I'll be renting a room with a roommate, when I go to school. As for the large Laptops, its mostly because I want something that'll last me about 4 years and still be able to used afterwards with some great performance. Also I use photoshop/dreamweaver for my website. So it'll kind of cool to have a large screen to work with it...
So acers quality vary a lot. :\
As for the good part, I meant both performance and battery wise. If I like to run a game like ie. Trackmania Nations Forever or some other game to relax after a hard day of classes. Would I be able to run them? I know some games require that you have Nvidia or Ati graphic cards.
Anyway, I'll be going to my local Best Buy and Circuit City to look around for some good deals. What do you suggest the specs to keep in mind when looking at the laptops there?
PC or MAC: you should decide for yourself
Make: I like Asus, Sager... LG seems to make more than decent laptops
Chip: T8100 or better
Ram: 3-4 GB
Graphic Card: I'm unsure of the games you want to play, so I'll be safe as say AMD 3650 or Nvidia 9500
Sound Card: Forget about this
Zapages said:I got this computer through my old University. We get to keep our laptops after we graduate. Therefore, there I don't have original CD for the Windows XP Tablet Edition. Also the laptop is encrypted so you can't upgrade it unless you wipe it out and install Windows XP or whatever operating system. Plus I don't even know if its upgradeable or not. It was slow when we got the laptops and it still slow. Actually our university said sorry because it needed more ram.
Its an Lenovo X41 and heats up like crazy...
Zapages said:Its not that... I want something that will last me more than a year. I rather pay more 1000+ on something that will last me about 4 years as the school changes its requirements for laptops every year...
zoku88 said:That 4-year life thing you want is kind of a dream. Specs wise, anything you buy today won't have great performance in 4 years... and the bigger laptops you keep on bringing up have worse performance than many of the 15.4" laptops (heck, the one I have now that I bought last year was faster.)
If you're doing serious enough photoshop work to need a bigger screen, then you wouldn't want to be using a laptop screen anyway. Laptop screen are notoriously bad... Since your budget was so big anyway, you might as well use the extra money you'd be saving to buy a nice external monitor (and a keyboard and mouse.)
Shogmaster said:If you look at the bottom of your X41, you'll see your XP Tablet keycode. That's the keycode you'll need when you reinstall. As for media, you might be able to find places selling Windows CDs without keycode and COA for cheap. You need the XP Media Center Edition 2005 CDs (2 discs). That will allow you to install XP Tablet Edition SP2 with your keycode on your X41. Basically, your XP Tablet keycode will make the CDs install XP Tablet.
Having 512MB of RAM is just ridiculous, especially with XP: Tablet Edition. You really need to give over a GB to spread it's wings. You can buy a GB SODIMM for around $60. That will make it run much faster, with the 256MB or 512MB SODIMM for the other slot. Since dual channel mode sucked ass with Intel mobos back then you don't need to match the two SODIMMs.
I can tell that you hardly used your TPC properly at your old school because it ran like shit due to horrible OEM install + lack of RAM. You really should make the most of it since it's really tailor made for taking notes in school. Get the RAM, find the CDs, and perhaps even buy a new battery for it. All that would be less than $200, and you'll have a perfectly nice ultraportable TPC to take digital notes with at school. Sure, you can buy yourself a big and heavy laptop for your entertainment and gaming purposes too, but you really shouldn't abandon your TPC, especially when you will be doing more school. Go ahead an get yourself a nice 15.4" or 17" gaming laptop, but leave that at home and take your X41 for doing school stuff.
Just my $.02
Zapages said:I'll be renting a room with a roommate, when I go to school. As for the large Laptops, its mostly because I want something that'll last me about 4 years and still be able to used afterwards with some great performance. Also I use photoshop/dreamweaver for my website. So it'll kind of cool to have a large screen to work with it...
As for the good part, I meant both performance and battery wise. If I like to run a game like ie. Trackmania Nations Forever or some other game to relax after a hard day of classes. Would I be able to run them? I know some games require that you have Nvidia or Ati graphic cards.
Anyway, I'll be going to my local Best Buy and Circuit City to look around for some good deals. What do you suggest the specs to keep in mind when looking at the laptops there?
PC or MAC:This is completely your choice. Both are good.
Make:Dell's are good, but also look at HP, Lenovo, Sony, Asus etc. I can't recommend Acer though.
Chip:T8100 or better. The important thing is that it has 3 or 6mb of l2 cache, since htat means it is penryn.
Ram:2-4 gigs.
Graphic Card:X3100 or X4500 for battery life, 3450, 3650 and 9500 for games.
Sound Card:Don't.
Operating System: Vista works well, I recommend Home Premium for basic stuff, Business or Ultimate for networking oriented stuff (I doubt you'll need it though).
Price:Completely your choice. My big thing is not to overspend.
zoku88 said:T8100 is a processor... 45nm process instead of the 65nm ones you kept on bring up before (T7100 and below.)
I would recommend you spend some time around notebookreview.com forums or something so that you can become more acquainted with laptops in general.
SYSTEM COLOR Midnight Blue edit
PROCESSOR Intel® Core 2 Duo T8100 (2.1GHz/800Mhz FSB/3MB cache) edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1 edit
HD DISPLAY Hi Resolution, glossy widescreen 15.4 inch display (1920x1200) edit
VIDEO CARD 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450 edit
MEMORY 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 edit
HARD DRIVE Size: 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) edit
INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE 8X Slot Load CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) edit
WIRELESS NETWORK CARDS Dell 1510 Wireless-N Card edit
INTEGRATED WEBCAM Integrated 2.0M Pixel Webcam edit
BATTERY OPTIONS 85 Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell) edit
SOUND OPTIONS Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy Advanced HD Software Edition edit
FINGERPRINT SCANNER Integrated Finger Print Reader edit
KEYBOARD Back-lit Keyboard edit
My Software & Accessories
ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE Trend Micro Internet Security 15-months edit
PRODUCTIVITY SOFTWARE No Productivity software pre-installed edit
My Service
WARRANTY AND SERVICE 1Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor,24x7 Phone Support edit
DATASAFE ONLINE BACKUP Included 3 GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1Yr edit
DIAL-UP INTERNET ACCESS No ISP requested edit
ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM
LCD and Camera Hi Resolution, glossy widescreen 15.4 LCD (1920x1200) w/ 2.0M pixel Camera
Labels Windows Vista Premium
Processor Branding Intel® Core 2 Duo Processor
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1
NovemberMike said:The problem is that the large laptops you are choosing don't necessarily have the kind of screen you want to do Photoshop on, and nothing you can get today will have great performance four years down the line. If you want a good screen, buy an external monitor. You can get a really nice 24" monitor in the $400-600 range, and cheaper monitors aren't necessarily bad either.
If you wait a bit, Intel should be coming out with the x4500 integrated card, which is supposed to be roughly as powerful as an 8400 (I think, I don't pay to much attention to integrated cards). Trackmania should run on anything though.
If you are getting a 15.4", why the hell would you be waiting for the X4500? No matter what, it's still a Northbridge GPU. You need a dedicated card to see decent performance.Zapages said:The only thing is the problem is space when I travel down there....
Also when is the x4500 are suppose to released??? I have till Early August to wait it out. As I have to get everything checked by August 19th by the school.
Zapages said:Its not that... I want something that will last me more than a year. I rather pay more 1000+ on something that will last me about 4 years as the school changes its requirements for laptops every year...
???Shogmaster said:Edit: Much better deal, but Asus support in the states is almost none-existent...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220307
zoku88 said:???
What do you mean by that? I've had nothing but good experiences with them... They're pretty fast, too.
Shogmaster said:If you are getting a 15.4", why the hell would you be waiting for the X4500? No matter what, it's still a Northbridge GPU. You need a dedicated card to see decent performance.
Oh yea. The website it pretty bad. I haven't been on there since the second time I reformatted my lappy, I just kept my driver CD. Does the liveupdate thing actually work, btw? I've been wondering, since it's never told me about an update before (although, my video drivers arent the ASUS ones, anyway.)Shogmaster said:Try navigating their US site to just download some drivers. YEESH! It's total clusterfuck and SLOW. Doesn't give me one iota of confidence about their service.
Zapages said:The only thing is the problem is space when I travel down there....
Also when is the x4500 are suppose to released??? I have till Early August to wait it out. As I have to get everything checked by August 19th by the school.
Zapages said:The looks Asus is awesome...
JzeroT1437 how is your graphic card? I'll probably upgrade the hard drive to 250 or 320... Which Chip is it for the 2 GHz? If I chose the T8100 Series, it becomes really expensive...
Thank you guys for the help.![]()
Then he should not be looking at 15.4" monsters. WTF, dudes! Let's think a bit!NovemberMike said:The x4500 is approximately the same speed as an 8400gs. If he doesn't play particularly demanding games, then that should be more than enough to do a respectable job, and it should be good for the battery drain. From what I have heard, he doesn't need a dedicated card at all.
Get something with fast Core 2 Duo + 7200rpm HDD and you're set to do digital editing. Also helps to have decent resolution on the LCD since you will want to have many windows open during editing. Aim for 1680x1050. Avoid 1280x800 and lower.Osorio said:Does anyone here know what a good but cheap laptop for art school would be? I'm not sure yet if I have to use it for projects since I'm a film major.
Shogmaster said:Then he should not be looking at 15.4" monsters. WTF, dudes! Let's think a bit!
I would be pissed as hell if I was carrying around 7lbs without the benefit of dedicated cards. Point him to a 13.3" units if the built in cards are "good enough".
Yeah, the X4500 would have the shader oomph of something like 8400GS, but without the dedicated bandwidth of local frame buffer, it's all semantics.
Get something with fast Core 2 Duo + 7200rpm HDD and you're set to do digital editing. Also helps to have decent resolution on the LCD since you will want to have many windows open during editing. Aim for 1680x1050. Avoid 1280x800 and lower.
That actually looks great, as far as I can tell.Zapages said:
http://www.excaliberpc.com/585042/asus-m50sv-a1-15.4-notebook.htmlZapages said:
Nintaiyo said:Just bought that a week ago from Apple's website. Got a $100 education discount, a free printer/copier/scanner, and a free iPod Touch!!!![]()
zoku88 said:http://www.excaliberpc.com/585042/asus-m50sv-a1-15.4-notebook.html
This is almost the same thing but $100 cheaper with 1GB more RAM and more warranty.
Iron_Scimitar said:I wanna get a base model Macbook and toss in 4gb of RAM.
About the discount, is it an instant discount or is it thru a damn rebate?
Wtv, don't buy the RAM from Apple. Order the RAM from newegg or something. It will probably be cheaper.Iron_Scimitar said:I wanna get a base model Macbook and toss in 4gb of RAM.
About the discount, is it an instant discount or is it thru a damn rebate?
That's where I ordered my V1s from. He seemed fine to me.Zapages said:Hey guys,
Should I place an order from this place: http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=M50SV-A1&Category_Code=
all for 1300 dollars. I never used them before, are they ok?
and here's a small review of it: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=240104
Also should I get the 9 cell batteries or upgrade the hard drive or not?
Thanks guys...
Osorio said:Thanks for the advice guys. It'll come out a little costly but what doesn't when it comes to college?