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Zapages

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zoku88 said:
Wtv, don't buy the RAM from Apple. Order the RAM from newegg or something. It will probably be cheaper.


That's where I ordered my V1s from. He seemed fine to me.

As for you last two questions, it all depends on your preferences... really...

So the place is reliable and how fast is the shipping, the regular 2 weeks or so?

Do you think it'll be better to buy an extra 9 Cell main battery for $155 dollars or to just buy a separate 9 Cell main battery from some place else?

Also would 250 gigs be good for 4 years and I have tons of music that Listen to(about 20 gigs worth) so should I get the 320 gig hard drive for an additional 109 dollars or just buy an extra smaller external drive?

What's your opinion?

The university that I am going to is giving me 2000 dollars to spend on the laptop, that's what I just found out. :)
 
If that is $2000 that you spend or lose, we can have some fun...

As far as the hard drive goes, I would wait until you are starting to need more space before buying. That way, you maximize the GB/$ ratio and have an idea of what you need.
 

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NovemberMike said:
If that is $2000 that you spend or lose, we can have some fun...

As far as the hard drive goes, I would wait until you are starting to need more space before buying. That way, you maximize the GB/$ ratio and have an idea of what you need.

Sounds good and how about the extra battery? Is that good buy?

We have to spend the money as its given out to us a loan, which is huge some that is suppose to cover everything from cost of living to the clothes and foods we have can buy. From what I understand is that they give you refund check after you buy your stuff so that you can pay for it after the first 14 days. Then weekly check thereafter. :)

As pharmacist in any field, you end up making more over time like in 2 or 3 years time for the amount of loans you allocate. So everything should be good. (God willing of course) :)
 

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Zapages said:
Hey guys,

Should I place an order from this place: http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=M50SV-A1&Category_Code=

all for 1300 dollars. I never used them before, are they ok?

and here's a small review of it: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=240104

Also should I get the 9 cell batteries or upgrade the hard drive or not?

Thanks guys...

Guys, I just found out that laptop has 2 to 3 hour battery life depending on the 6 or 9 Cell battery respectively... Should I still buy it? It has everything that I am looking for + a bag + a mouse with the whole package. ?|
 

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Zapages said:
Guys, I just found out that laptop has 2 to 3 hour battery life depending on the 6 or 9 Cell battery respectively... Should I still buy it? It has everything that I am looking for + a bag + a mouse with the whole package. ?|

Sorry for the bump... Just one before I place order or should I look around for better battery life?
 

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Zapages said:
Sorry for the bump... Just one before I place order or should I look around for better battery life?
How much battery life do you need? I mean, if it has less than you need, obviously don't buy it. If it has enough, then there really isn't a problem...
 

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zoku88 said:
How much battery life do you need? I mean, if it has less than you need, obviously don't buy it. If it has enough, then there really isn't a problem...


Honestly, I don't know the average battery life for 15.4" laptops... If the average 2- 3 hours then I will deal with it... If not then I look someplace else...

Also I went to my local Best Buy to look at laptops check the laptops... But most of them were T5700 or T6000 Core 2 Duo laptops... :\ But they were like around 900 to 1200 dollars.

Also whats the difference all the difference chip sets??? T9300 compares older ones??? Speed is the issue or something else?
 

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SYSTEM COLOR Midnight Blue edit
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for about $1600 with 13.1 inch laptop....

I guess this will be a smaller laptop/lighter right?

or how about this one with 14.1 inch laptop screen for 1225 dollars.

SYSTEM COLOR Midnight Blue edit
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DIAL-UP INTERNET ACCESS No ISP requested edit
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Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1
Processor Branding Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
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Camera Panel Slim and Light LCD with Midnight Blue High Gloss Casing and Camera XPS M133
 
First off, anything that says either 8400 or 8600 you don't want right now. Think RROD for the 360 and you are close enough. I would personally wait a few more weeks for the montevina platform to launch and for nVidia to actually say what they are going to do about the defective chips.

Also, 2-3 hours isn't bad for a laptop like that Asus, which will give you performance equal to or better than your average desktop. The basic trend is that lower performance components give you a longer battery life than higher performance components (except when you cross generations) and that laptop was about as high performance as it gets.

Also whats the difference all the difference chip sets??? T9300 compares older ones??? Speed is the issue or something else?

First off, chipset is the wrong word. The chipset is what actually gets put on the motherboard, and it determines things like what processors you can use, how many PCI channels you have, what kind of integrated graphics there are etc. When I talk about Montevina coming, I am talking about a chipset.

What you are asking about is processors, and while higher is usually better in the numbers, I haven't found a whole lot of logic in their naming scheme for mobile processors. There are four things to look at though.

1) Speed: This isn't as important as some people say. Faster is better, but it is a case of diminishing returns. The problem is that this only talks about the CPU, so the RAM isn't talking to it any faster, the keyboard doesn't do anything faster (not a deal anymore, really), the graphics card, hard drive etc. don't do anything faster. If it isn't too expensive the upgrade is nice, but I really wouldn't worry about maxing this out.

2) FSB: This is how fast the processor talks to all those things I noted above. I would generally say that an increase in the speed of the FSB is more important than an increase in the speed of the processor.

3) Generation: The current generation is Penryn, which uses a 45nm process and has a slightly more advanced pipeline. Everything else being equal, a Penryn will outpeform an older generation CPU by about 10% clock for clock, and use less power doing so. I think all T8xxx and T9xxx models are Penryns (buy Penryn).

4) L2 Cache: Not something you should worry about too much. If you are buying a Penryn, it will either be 3MB or 6MB (if it isn't, then it isn't a Penryn). Either one is enough for most tasks, although 6MB will give a nice boost sometimes.
 

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NovemberMike said:
First off, anything that says either 8400 or 8600 you don't want right now. Think RROD for the 360 and you are close enough. I would personally wait a few more weeks for the montevina platform to launch and for nVidia to actually say what they are going to do about the defective chips.

Also, 2-3 hours isn't bad for a laptop like that Asus, which will give you performance equal to or better than your average desktop. The basic trend is that lower performance components give you a longer battery life than higher performance components (except when you cross generations) and that laptop was about as high performance as it gets.



First off, chipset is the wrong word. The chipset is what actually gets put on the motherboard, and it determines things like what processors you can use, how many PCI channels you have, what kind of integrated graphics there are etc. When I talk about Montevina coming, I am talking about a chipset.

What you are asking about is processors, and while higher is usually better in the numbers, I haven't found a whole lot of logic in their naming scheme for mobile processors. There are four things to look at though.

1) Speed: This isn't as important as some people say. Faster is better, but it is a case of diminishing returns. The problem is that this only talks about the CPU, so the RAM isn't talking to it any faster, the keyboard doesn't do anything faster (not a deal anymore, really), the graphics card, hard drive etc. don't do anything faster. If it isn't too expensive the upgrade is nice, but I really wouldn't worry about maxing this out.

2) FSB: This is how fast the processor talks to all those things I noted above. I would generally say that an increase in the speed of the FSB is more important than an increase in the speed of the processor.

3) Generation: The current generation is Penryn, which uses a 45nm process and has a slightly more advanced pipeline. Everything else being equal, a Penryn will outpeform an older generation CPU by about 10% clock for clock, and use less power doing so. I think all T8xxx and T9xxx models are Penryns (buy Penryn).

4) L2 Cache: Not something you should worry about too much. If you are buying a Penryn, it will either be 3MB or 6MB (if it isn't, then it isn't a Penryn). Either one is enough for most tasks, although 6MB will give a nice boost sometimes.


Thank you about the warning about 8400 and 8600...

I am even more confused now? So does it really matter right to have the latest chips??? Its better for speed or for better processing.

Also what's your opinion about these two and how long will be battery life???

14.1":
http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=F8VA-B1
15.4": http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=M50VM-B1
 

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Guys I am back to square one... Asus MV50-A is sold out and is not going to be shipped...

I was looking at Dell XPS M1330 its lightweight and has everything I am looking for... But the only thing is that it has Geforce 8400 . :\

What do you guys suggest... : Sorry for the bump. :\


Components

* • Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (32-bit)
* • Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T8300 (2.40GHz)
* • 14.1" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800)
* • 3GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
* • 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
* • HP Imprint Finish (Radiance) + Microphone + Webcam
* • Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network w/Bluetooth
* • 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
* • LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support
* • No TV Tuner w/remote control
* • 12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
* • System Recovery DVD with Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)
* • Microsoft(R) Office Home and Student 2007
* • 2-year HP Accidental Damage Protection with Pick Up and Return

for about 1536 dollars... How's this, and its just a bit above 5 pounds?
 
First off, I wouldn't rush it. You still have around a month and the computer could last you 3-4 years, so take a little bit of time. I wouldn't recommend the computer you put up just now. The 8400gs is a major turn-off and the battery is huge (a weight concern, but it could be a positive). Other than that it looks fine.

If you like the M1330s, I would go for one with an LED backlit screen (cuts down a quarter pound, gives better battery life and looks better), T8300, 2-3gb RAM (can be upgraded easily), Integrated graphics (they aren't really that bad as long as you don't expect to play new games, old games can work fine), the default battery (you can buy a second battery from dell cheaper than upgrading, and this way gives you the option of figuring out exactly how much you want) and whatever warranty and hard drive you want (I recommend a 5400rpm drive, though).
 

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NovemberMike said:
First off, I wouldn't rush it. You still have around a month and the computer could last you 3-4 years, so take a little bit of time. I wouldn't recommend the computer you put up just now. The 8400gs is a major turn-off and the battery is huge (a weight concern, but it could be a positive). Other than that it looks fine.

If you like the M1330s, I would go for one with an LED backlit screen (cuts down a quarter pound, gives better battery life and looks better), T8300, 2-3gb RAM (can be upgraded easily), Integrated graphics (they aren't really that bad as long as you don't expect to play new games, old games can work fine), the default battery (you can buy a second battery from dell cheaper than upgrading, and this way gives you the option of figuring out exactly how much you want) and whatever warranty and hard drive you want (I recommend a 5400rpm drive, though).

Yes, you are definitely right that I shouldn't rush. Although I only have 4 weeks left... I am leaving for school on August 15...

I definitely take a note for the last part...

My Father and I are going to check laptops later today... I'll definitely look for good deal.
 

mr jones

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The thing I'm not quite understanding: You sound like you want a laptop for school, but you're looking for a gaming machine. A laptop for school should be relatively fast, have really good battery life, and be lightweight for carrying between classes. It would also be nice to have docking station connectivity so its easy to connect it to a larger monitor, printer, and external storage when at home.

It sounds like you're looking for a gaming machine - lots of power, dedicated graphics adapter, dedicated audio. You sacrifice battery life, size, and weight when you take those options as a priority. That's fine, its just that unless you're a programmer or CG/CAD designer, its somewhat impractical in a business/educational scenario.

So what are you really looking for?
 
mr jones said:
The thing I'm not quite understanding: You sound like you want a laptop for school, but you're looking for a gaming machine. A laptop for school should be relatively fast, have really good battery life, and be lightweight for carrying between classes. It would also be nice to have docking station connectivity so its easy to connect it to a larger monitor, printer, and external storage when at home.

It sounds like you're looking for a gaming machine - lots of power, dedicated graphics adapter, dedicated audio. You sacrifice battery life, size, and weight when you take those options as a priority. That's fine, its just that unless you're a programmer or CG/CAD designer, its somewhat impractical in a business/educational scenario.

So what are you really looking for?

Yeah, I keep switching back and forth on this too.
 
I'm scared for my laptop's 8400M GS. I thought I had put it to hibernate but apparently it was still on when I placed it in its neoprene sleeve. It came out really warm. I think I just did the laptop equivalent to wrapping a 360 in a towel.
 
mr jones said:
The thing I'm not quite understanding: You sound like you want a laptop for school, but you're looking for a gaming machine. A laptop for school should be relatively fast, have really good battery life, and be lightweight for carrying between classes. It would also be nice to have docking station connectivity so its easy to connect it to a larger monitor, printer, and external storage when at home.

It sounds like you're looking for a gaming machine - lots of power, dedicated graphics adapter, dedicated audio. You sacrifice battery life, size, and weight when you take those options as a priority. That's fine, its just that unless you're a programmer or CG/CAD designer, its somewhat impractical in a business/educational scenario.

So what are you really looking for?

This is what happens when a gamer can't balance his priorities when buying a laptop for school and is ultimately what lead me to purchase an Inspiron 9300 back in the day when I was shopping for the same reason.



http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/844380/

If you want a good and affordable laptop for school, there you go. Deal ends tomorrow.
 

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WickedAngel said:
This is what happens when a gamer can't balance his priorities when buying a laptop for school and is ultimately what lead me to purchase an Inspiron 9300 back in the day when I was shopping for the same reason.



http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/844380/

If you want a good and affordable laptop for school, there you go. Deal ends tomorrow.


Thank you man... Unfortunately the University prefers Intel laptops. :\
 

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zoku88 said:
Why does it matter what they say?

tech support and they approve our laptops for school use when I come for pre-orientation day. Yes, its weird. Also we have to wear dress shirt, pants, and necktie... Its school policy...
 

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Zapages said:
tech support and they approve our laptops for school use when I come for pre-orientation day. Yes, its weird. Also we have to wear dress shirt, pants, and necktie... Its school policy...
WTH kinda school is this.

And tech support for a laptop with an AMD or Intel CPU is the same. I mean, it either works fine, or it needs more thermal grease, or it needs to be replaced. You can't really 'fix' them (too complicated...)
 
Zapages said:
Thank you man... Unfortunately the University prefers Intel laptops. :\

Why would they care about Intel vs AMD? The only difference is speed, and the slower intel CPUs will be slower than most of the AMD CPUs... Otherwise they are almost 100% interchangeable.
 

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Zapages said:
tech support and they approve our laptops for school use when I come for pre-orientation day. Yes, its weird. Also we have to wear dress shirt, pants, and necktie... Its school policy...
WTF. Did Intel pay them or something? Why would they have a preference? It would already be stupid if they checked for speed, RAM, etc... but brands? That's just idiocy.
 

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zoku88 said:
WTH kinda school is this.

And tech support for a laptop with an AMD or Intel CPU is the same. I mean, it either works fine, or it needs more thermal grease, or it needs to be replaced. You can't really 'fix' them (too complicated...)

Fireblend said:
WTF. Did Intel pay them or something? Why would they have a preference? It would already be stupid if they checked for speed, RAM, etc... but brands? That's just idiocy.


Pharmacy/Medical school... What I can I say... Its their policy that I must obey.

Also they have security guard that inspects us every single day before we enter the building. lol
 

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zoku88 said:
I don't know. Do you know how much you need? (Do you have a schedule and does your school have outlets in the lecture halls?)

Classes range from 2:30 hours(Mon, Wed, Fri excluding the labs) to 6 hours the other days(Tues and Thursdays)...
 

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Zapages said:
Classes range from 2:30 hours(Mon, Wed, Fri excluding the labs) to 6 hours the other days(Tues and Thursdays)...
And I'm guessing that you take notes with your laptop, yes? And haven't been to the lecture halls, of course.

Ok, I can tell you for sure that few notebooks will last you for 6 hours.

I would wait for this..


http://gizmodo.com/5025193/hands-on-lenovo-x200-tiny-cheap-means-business-but-forgot-the-trackpad

It prolly won't play the game you want very well, but it will get you through classes.
 

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zoku88 said:
And I'm guessing that you take notes with your laptop, yes? And haven't been to the lecture halls, of course.

Ok, I can tell you for sure that few notebooks will last you for 6 hours.

I would wait for this..


http://gizmodo.com/5025193/hands-on-lenovo-x200-tiny-cheap-means-business-but-forgot-the-trackpad

It prolly won't play the game you want very well, but it will get you through classes.

I have Lenova right now and gets extremely hot.... Too hot to handle type of hot. :\ :*(


I usually use pen and notebook to take notes... But if the professors talks fast or something like that then I usually type my notes as I can type fast as well... It just varies...

I don't plan on playing the latest game.... I have PS3 for that... :\ Mostly Trackmania/some other games that I can't list.

The graphic intensive part will be mostly for photoshop/dreamweaver/ type of things for my website and thats when I have time...
 

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Does someone know how the Intel GMA X1300 performs in Flight Simulator X, and in presentations with HD video? PLEASE NEED HELP!
 

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Zapages said:
Thank you about the warning about 8400 and 8600...

I am even more confused now? So does it really matter right to have the latest chips??? Its better for speed or for better processing.

Also what's your opinion about these two and how long will be battery life???

14.1":
http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=F8VA-B1
15.4": http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=M50VM-B1

Guys I just saw a video review of the 15.4" laptop:

6 cell = 2 Hours 38 minutes of battery life
9 cell = 3:30 to 4 hours battery life?

Should I go for it?!

Here's the video Review of it: http://ynot2k.com/btotech.com/m50vm/m50vm-b1.wmv

Its 4 gig with a 32 bit windows though... :\ How much does it cost to buy the Vista Ultimate upgrade for 64 bit???
 

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zoku88 said:
IDK. Can't you get OSs for free from your school?

I highly doubt that, because I am going to a medical/pharmacy school... If it was engineering related, I would guess so like NJIT...
 

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NovemberMike said:
That looks like a great deal. Great resolution, processor speed, graphics card, everything. Go for it if you like it.

Is battery life really good for 15.4" laptop??? That's my main worry... What's the battery can a person can get with a 15.4" laptop?
 
You can probably get about 3 - 4 hours on a 9 cell, depending on the type of screen, GPU, CPU, hard drive and other factors. This should be more than enough for 5-6 hours of class, as you can recharge during labs or lunch or certain classes usually, and you don't need your computer for every class.
 

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NovemberMike said:
You can probably get about 3 - 4 hours on a 9 cell, depending on the type of screen, GPU, CPU, hard drive and other factors. This should be more than enough for 5-6 hours of class, as you can recharge during labs or lunch or certain classes usually, and you don't need your computer for every class.


The small problem is that the 3 classes are back to back with 10 minutes break between them...

How's this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8907061&type=product&id=1213046783513

#
Warranty Terms - Parts
1 year limited
#
Warranty Terms - Labor
1 year limited
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Product Height
1.5"
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Product Width
15.1"
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Product Weight
6.4 lbs.
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Product Depth
10.3"
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Processor Brand
Intel�
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Processor
Intel� Core(TM)2 Duo Mobile
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Processor Speed
2.26GHz
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Display Type
LCD widescreen with XBRITE-ECO technology (1600 x 900)
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Screen Size
16.4"
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System Bus
1066MHz
#
Cache Memory
3MB on die Level 2
#
System Memory (RAM)
3GB
#
System Memory (RAM) Expandable To
4GB
#
Type of Memory (RAM)
PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM
#
Hard Drive Type
Serial ATA (5400 rpm)
#
Hard Drive Size
250GB
#
Optical Drive
Double-layer DVD±RW/CD-RW
#
Optical Drive Speeds
6x DVD+R DL; 6x DVD-R DL; 8x8x8 DVD+RW; 8x6x8 DVD-RW; 5x DVD-RAM; 24x24x24 CD-RW
#
Direct-Disc Labeling
No
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Digital Media Reader or Slots
Yes, select memory card slots
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Graphics
ATI Mobility RADEON HD 3470
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Video Memory
Up to 1530MB total available
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Personal Video Recorder (PVR)
No
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TV Tuner
No
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MPEG
Yes
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Built-in Webcam
Yes
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Modem
56 Kbps* ITU V.90/V.92 *Capable of receiving 56 Kbps downloads. However, current regulations limit download speed to 53 Kbps.
#
Networking
Built-in 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T Fast Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector)
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Wireless Networking
Built-in Atheros wireless network connection (802.11b/g/n); Bluetooth interface
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S-Video Outputs
None
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Additional Audio/Video Connectors
1 HDMI
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Audio
Dolby Sound Room
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Speakers
Built-in
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1 ExpressCard/34
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USB 2.0 Ports
3
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IEEE 1394 FireWire Ports
1
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Parallel Ports
None
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Serial Ports
None
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Game Ports
None
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Laptop Weight
Standard (more than 5.5 lbs.)
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Battery Type
Lithium-ion
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Pointing Device
Electrostatic touchpad
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Operating System
Windows Vista Home Premium with SP1
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Included Software
Sony Click to Disc; Microsoft Works SE 9.0 and more
#
ENERGY STAR Qualified
Yes

^A lot cheaper, but I am still trying to find the battery life right now
 

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Guys, I just found out that a Best Buy (40 minutes) away from me is selling it..

If the battery life is 4+ hours... That would make my day. :)
 

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zoku88 said:
Don't get Asus laptops from best buy. You get less warranty.

Confused??? Asus laptop? Sony one? I could always buy Best Buy's extended warranty thing? right? It'll just push me a bit more over like to 1400 dollars, which is till cheaper? As I still need to buy a GPS, a printer, paper for the printer and stuff. :\

Do you know the battery life for the Sony laptop though?

Also how is this:

ThinkPad R61 Series - 1 Year Express Warranty
Description Part number Unit price* Quantity Price*
ThinkPad R61 Series - 1 Year Express Warranty
Edit 8918CTO $1,401.60 1 $1,401.60
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor T8300 (2.4GHz 800MHz 3MBL2) 1
Operating system: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium 1
Operating system language: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium US English 1
Display type: 15.4" WSXGA+,Camera,BT 1
System graphics: nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, PC Card/ Smart Card 1
Total memory: 3 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM) 1
Keyboards: Keyboard US English 1
Pointing Device: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Finger Print Reader 1
Hard drive: 250 GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm 1
Optical device: DVD Recordable 8x Max Ultrabay Enhanced 1
Wireless card: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN (supporting Centrino Pro) 1
Bluetooth: Integrated Bluetooth PAN 1
Battery: 9 cell Li-Ion Battery 1
Power cord: Country Pack North America 1
Language Pack: Language Pack US English 1
Accessories and options:
1 Year ThinkPad Protection 40Y9213 $44.50 1 $44.50

All for $1,446.10???

The battery life for the R61 with the 9 cell battery would be how long?
 
Hey Zapages, I just bought one of the laptops you were looking at. It was the Asus from GentechPC which I got based off high recommendations from notebookreview.com on their forums for both the laptop and the company. Looks like you were wondering if they were reliable and they shipped me the laptop immediately. I ended up with the Asus M50VM with the new Montevina board/chipset. I could answer more detailed questions about the laptop itself if you're still considering it since I'm typing on it right now.
 

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Marty Chinn said:
Hey Zapages, I just bought one of the laptops you were looking at. It was the Asus from GentechPC which I got based off high recommendations from notebookreview.com on their forums for both the laptop and the company. Looks like you were wondering if they were reliable and they shipped me the laptop immediately. I ended up with the Asus M50VM with the new Montevina board/chipset. I could answer more detailed questions about the laptop itself if you're still considering it since I'm typing on it right now.


Awesome man. Congratulations!!! How does it feel owning one of them... I was definitely considering buying one. :) Thank you for taking the time to answer. :)

I am thinking of adding the Ultimate 64 bit, so it uses the whole 4 gigs of ram and 9 cell battery so hopefully I am able to get 4 hours out of it max.

The major thing is the price, its going to cost 1800 dollars in all with above to stated. Plus the price of laptops fall over the years just like cars. Considering all that, I'm very indecisive about it and wary about the whole thing.

As for the payment methods??? Does GenTech some type of 24 months down plan like most larger stores? That's is one of my main concerns...

How's the screen brightness and the battery life? Also do you get 4 hours of life with the 9 cell battery by lowing everything up like the brightness and all, which makes everything hard to see or my having the brightness high and being able to see everything... Is brightness manually adjustable like with the Lenovos? Most importantly is it sturdy and feels something that can last you a long time like 4 - 5 years or so.

Thank you. :)
 
Zapages said:
Awesome man. Congratulations!!! How does it feel owning one of them... I was definitely considering buying one. :) Thank you for taking the time to answer. :)

I am thinking of adding the Ultimate 64 bit, so it uses the whole 4 gigs of ram and 9 cell battery so hopefully I am able to get 4 hours out of it max.

The major thing is the price, its going to cost 1800 dollars in all with above to stated. Plus the price of laptops fall over the years just like cars. Considering all that, I'm very indecisive about it and wary about the whole thing.

As for the payment methods??? Does GenTech some type of 24 months down plan like most larger stores? That's is one of my main concerns...

How's the screen brightness and the battery life? Also do you get 4 hours of life with the 9 cell battery by lowing everything up like the brightness and all, which makes everything hard to see or my having the brightness high and being able to see everything... Is brightness manually adjustable like with the Lenovos? Most importantly is it sturdy and feels something that can last you a long time like 4 - 5 years or so.

Thank you. :)

The laptop feels solid and well built and it's kinda cool that it has a numerical keypad where as most laptops don't include those. I'm still setting things up as it just arrived Friday but I didn't have time to really do anything with it till yesterday.

Let me preface with that I was not in a position where I was ready to buy a new laptop. Mine was solid and going strong. It was only 2 years and 3 months old when it just died suddenly. No problems until it just stopped. So I was sort of forced into buying a new laptop and I did it really fast where as I'm the type of person who likes to well research a purchase if it's going to be something that either costs a lot or should last a long time. I ended up doing 5 hours of solid research the same day it died and this is what I ended up with.

First off, let me get some stuff out of the way that I'm not keen on, but keep in mind I was sort of pushed into this situation rather than being ready to upgrade. The keyboard layout is throwing me right now. It's not that the keys feel weird or anything as I can type fine, but I just have some nuances that I'm not used to. It used to be I had Fn left arrow and right arrow for sound volume, and Fn up arrow and down arrow for brightness. This keyboard has that functionality mapped to the F# keys at top and instead have mapped player controls to the arrows. Another thing was since I didn't have the numerical keypad, my page up and page down were near my arrow keys which allowed me to easily browse with arrows and the pg up/down keys without looking. I also had a directional pad in between the two touchpad buttons that I also used to navigate which is now replaced with a finger scanner. I'm also fighting with Vista as I'm coming from XP Pro. I decided to give Vista a try to see how I would like it and will give it a full week or two of usage once everything is setup to see if I want to stick with that or go back to XP Pro. Right now I'm leaning toward XP since I'm fighting with the OS so much but I'm still setting stuff up. I also miss my slot loading drive which is now a tray that pops out. Anyways, that's all the little quirks that are annoying me right now that are probably just things I have to get used to.

So with that out of the way, I like the finger scanner. It's gimmicky but pretty cool and works as long as you move your finger slowly. You can use it to log in to your PC or even to sign in info that's encrypted like passwords, or even CC info. I hear since its all encrypted that if your laptop is stolen, that info won't be compromised. The touchpad has all sorts of controls that you can use if you switch it to media mode and it's backlit. I haven't figured out how to use these yet but it seems pretty cool from the pictures I saw. I also like how I have a full numerical keypad which you would normally have to hit the Fn key to use on my old laptop.

The screen is clear and a lot brighter than my old laptop. One cool thing is there is a light sensor which will auto adjust the brightness of the screen depending on how much light is in the area you're in. So naturally if you're in a dark room, you'd want to lower the brightness. It seems to work pretty well so far and a cool unexpected feature that I didn't expect.

I'm glad this laptop has an eSATA port on it as I had to pop out my old laptop HDD to copy the data off it, and having an eSATA port has made the transition a lot faster. My old laptop had some good speed management that would let me clock the CPU on the fly so I could lower it when I wasn't doing much or when I wanted to conserve on battery life. I haven't really discovered how power management works here via the Asus software or Vista. Although, one of the reasons I would lower the cpu speed was to make it not run as hot but even though this cpu is faster, the laptop as a whole hasn't felt too hot to hold on my lap. In fact now that I'm feeling for it, only one corner of the laptop gets sorta warm which is pretty impressive from previous laptops I've owned.

One quirk that I just remembered is I don't like how the indicators for like volume, brightness, wireless, etc, pop up dead center of the screen and are fairly graphical and big. I miss having those things at the bottom of my scren and more in a meter form. It was nice when you were watching say a video and wanted to adjust the brightness or volume, because it wouldn't interfere with what you were watching. Now it covers it up.

From everything I've heard is to stay away from Vista 64 bit because of compatibility issues. You're much better staying with the 32 bit version of Vista. I'm not sure how long the battery life will last as I haven't tried just running on battery too long, but I've read it's about 2 hours and 38 min on the 6 cell. I only got the 6 cell for now to see how I could handle it. My old laptop got about 3 hours when I turned down the brightness and cpu speed. I didn't want to get the 9 cell right away cuz I was spending all this money suddenly but I was thinking of maybe getting it down the road. Be aware that the 9 cell sticks out of the back a little bit. Not much, but it's not flush either. From the pic I saw, it sticks out about maybe a half inch? Definitely less than an inch. So not too bad, but don't be caught off guard by it. Depending how badly you need it, I would think maybe you could try out the 6 cell battery and see how it works for you. You probably won't need to have the laptop on during the entire class, and also probably not for all your classes.

As for payment, I'm not sure what options they have. I pretty much just put it on my credit card and paid it in full. I'm sure they mention it on their website what they offer.

Sorry to ramble, but I hope that helps some rather than confuse you more. Also I'm willing to answer anything that I can. Just keep in mind that I just got it, and I'm not completely set up on it yet. Also I'm getting used to Vista too.
 

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Marty Chinn said:
The laptop feels solid and well built and it's kinda cool that it has a numerical keypad where as most laptops don't include those. I'm still setting things up as it just arrived Friday but I didn't have time to really do anything with it till yesterday.

Let me preface with that I was not in a position where I was ready to buy a new laptop. Mine was solid and going strong. It was only 2 years and 3 months old when it just died suddenly. No problems until it just stopped. So I was sort of forced into buying a new laptop and I did it really fast where as I'm the type of person who likes to well research a purchase if it's going to be something that either costs a lot or should last a long time. I ended up doing 5 hours of solid research the same day it died and this is what I ended up with.

First off, let me get some stuff out of the way that I'm not keen on, but keep in mind I was sort of pushed into this situation rather than being ready to upgrade. The keyboard layout is throwing me right now. It's not that the keys feel weird or anything as I can type fine, but I just have some nuances that I'm not used to. It used to be I had Fn left arrow and right arrow for sound volume, and Fn up arrow and down arrow for brightness. This keyboard has that functionality mapped to the F# keys at top and instead have mapped player controls to the arrows. Another thing was since I didn't have the numerical keypad, my page up and page down were near my arrow keys which allowed me to easily browse with arrows and the pg up/down keys without looking. I also had a directional pad in between the two touchpad buttons that I also used to navigate which is now replaced with a finger scanner. I'm also fighting with Vista as I'm coming from XP Pro. I decided to give Vista a try to see how I would like it and will give it a full week or two of usage once everything is setup to see if I want to stick with that or go back to XP Pro. Right now I'm leaning toward XP since I'm fighting with the OS so much but I'm still setting stuff up. I also miss my slot loading drive which is now a tray that pops out. Anyways, that's all the little quirks that are annoying me right now that are probably just things I have to get used to.

So with that out of the way, I like the finger scanner. It's gimmicky but pretty cool and works as long as you move your finger slowly. You can use it to log in to your PC or even to sign in info that's encrypted like passwords, or even CC info. I hear since its all encrypted that if your laptop is stolen, that info won't be compromised. The touchpad has all sorts of controls that you can use if you switch it to media mode and it's backlit. I haven't figured out how to use these yet but it seems pretty cool from the pictures I saw. I also like how I have a full numerical keypad which you would normally have to hit the Fn key to use on my old laptop.

The screen is clear and a lot brighter than my old laptop. One cool thing is there is a light sensor which will auto adjust the brightness of the screen depending on how much light is in the area you're in. So naturally if you're in a dark room, you'd want to lower the brightness. It seems to work pretty well so far and a cool unexpected feature that I didn't expect.

I'm glad this laptop has an eSATA port on it as I had to pop out my old laptop HDD to copy the data off it, and having an eSATA port has made the transition a lot faster. My old laptop had some good speed management that would let me clock the CPU on the fly so I could lower it when I wasn't doing much or when I wanted to conserve on battery life. I haven't really discovered how power management works here via the Asus software or Vista. Although, one of the reasons I would lower the cpu speed was to make it not run as hot but even though this cpu is faster, the laptop as a whole hasn't felt too hot to hold on my lap. In fact now that I'm feeling for it, only one corner of the laptop gets sorta warm which is pretty impressive from previous laptops I've owned.

One quirk that I just remembered is I don't like how the indicators for like volume, brightness, wireless, etc, pop up dead center of the screen and are fairly graphical and big. I miss having those things at the bottom of my scren and more in a meter form. It was nice when you were watching say a video and wanted to adjust the brightness or volume, because it wouldn't interfere with what you were watching. Now it covers it up.

From everything I've heard is to stay away from Vista 64 bit because of compatibility issues. You're much better staying with the 32 bit version of Vista. I'm not sure how long the battery life will last as I haven't tried just running on battery too long, but I've read it's about 2 hours and 38 min on the 6 cell. I only got the 6 cell for now to see how I could handle it. My old laptop got about 3 hours when I turned down the brightness and cpu speed. I didn't want to get the 9 cell right away cuz I was spending all this money suddenly but I was thinking of maybe getting it down the road. Be aware that the 9 cell sticks out of the back a little bit. Not much, but it's not flush either. From the pic I saw, it sticks out about maybe a half inch? Definitely less than an inch. So not too bad, but don't be caught off guard by it. Depending how badly you need it, I would think maybe you could try out the 6 cell battery and see how it works for you. You probably won't need to have the laptop on during the entire class, and also probably not for all your classes.

As for payment, I'm not sure what options they have. I pretty much just put it on my credit card and paid it in full. I'm sure they mention it on their website what they offer.

Sorry to ramble, but I hope that helps some rather than confuse you more. Also I'm willing to answer anything that I can. Just keep in mind that I just got it, and I'm not completely set up on it yet. Also I'm getting used to Vista too.

Thank you for the great information... Sorry for the trouble of giving so many questions.

I hope you enjoy your laptop and keep at with Vista Home Premium. My friend who has it... Its worth it after adjusting to it...


Asus truly have a great laptop. The one thing is that I'll definitely need a laptop that will be able to have battery as my current laptop during school have me 4 to 6 hours... So it'll be weird with less battery then that...


What do you think of this guys, after discussing everything with Sony Salesperson:

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Warranty Terms - Parts
1 year limited
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Warranty Terms - Labor
1 year limited
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Product Height
1.5"
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Product Width
15.1"
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Product Weight
6.4 lbs.
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Product Depth
10.3"
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Processor Brand
Intel�
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Processor
Intel� Core(TM)2 Duo Mobile
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Processor Speed
2.26GHz
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Display Type
LCD widescreen with XBRITE-HiColor technology (1600 x 900)
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Screen Size
16.4"
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System Bus
1066MHz
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Cache Memory
3MB on die Level 2
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System Memory (RAM)
3GB
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System Memory (RAM) Expandable To
4GB
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Type of Memory (RAM)
PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM
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Hard Drive Type
Serial ATA (5400 rpm)
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Hard Drive Size
250GB
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Optical Drive
Double-layer DVD±RW/CD-RW
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Optical Drive Speeds
6x DVD+R DL; 6x DVD-R DL; 8x8x8 DVD+RW; 8x6x8 DVD-RW; 5x DVD-RAM; 24x24x24 CD-RW
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Direct-Disc Labeling
No
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Digital Media Reader or Slots
Yes, select memory card slots
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Graphics
ATI Mobility RADEON HD 3470
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Video Memory
Up to 1530MB total available
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Personal Video Recorder (PVR)
No
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TV Tuner
No
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MPEG
Yes
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Built-in Webcam
Yes
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Modem
56 Kbps* ITU V.90/V.92 *Capable of receiving 56 Kbps downloads. However, current regulations limit download speed to 53 Kbps.
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Networking
Built-in 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T Fast Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector)
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Wireless Networking
Built-in Atheros wireless network connection (802.11b/g/n); Bluetooth interface
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S-Video Outputs
None
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Additional Audio/Video Connectors
1 HDMI
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Audio
Dolby Sound Room
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Speakers
Built-in
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PCMCIA Slots
1 ExpressCard/34
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USB 2.0 Ports
3
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IEEE 1394 FireWire Ports
1
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Parallel Ports
None
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Serial Ports
None
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Game Ports
None
#
Laptop Weight
Standard (more than 5.5 lbs.)
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Battery Type
Lithium-ion
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Pointing Device
Electrostatic touchpad
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Operating System
Windows Vista Home Premium with SP1
#
Included Software
Sony Click to Disc; Microsoft Works SE 9.0 and more
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ENERGY STAR Qualified
Yes

+ an extra extended battery to give up to 6 to 8 hours and 3 years of accidental repair warranty for 1500 dollars or so?

I really wish it had a numpad... That was a huge feature of the Asus. If it comes with like a battery between 4 to 6 hours... That would have been awesome...
 
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