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drkOne
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Yeah, forgot that Singed.Uchip said:
aAa vs Epik (Qualifying) - Dyrus' Singed
And do you mean Soaz's Gragas against Fnatic?
How can you balance something around casual players? They won't ever go deep enough as to find what's working and what isn't, they make mistakes all the time.Ultimoo said:
I've had some matches against Katarinas lately, where she Shunpos in, Ultimates, 3 people die because they are just standing there. Afterwards they surrender and cry that Katarina is OP. It's just an example.
If the game gets balanced around what casual players want and see fit, the game will start babysitting you and won't ever punish you for your mistakes.
If that happens, the competitive scene around LoL dies. And after Dreamhack I think Riot knows exactly what their focus should be.
HappyPuppy
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Uchip said:
Shushei <3
Ultimoo said:
That is another discussion. Kinda annoyed that Riot favors "fun" gameplay and they make certain decisions like Vlad's nerf because he is annoying, yeap they nerf him cause he is annoying, don't have the post made by a red saying that. I wish they had a full disabler the closest thing they have is Blitzcrank, I would jump of joy if the made a Mesmer champion from Guild Wars.
drkOne said:
Well balancing around the casual crowd would mean listening to the most of the balance complaints on the LoL forums, because I'd say 90% of the people that post that are not indicative of a high skill level. But that is what the guy was suggesting at least, qq enough about something and Riot will eventually change it.
drkOne
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I meant, how will the game be balanced if they "balance" it according to forum complaints.Ultimoo said:
I understood what you meant, just don't think it'd ever be actually balanced that way.
I honestly don't visit the forums, so I don't know what people are complaining about over there. And I honestly had no clue that Riot would make dumb nerfs if enough people complained.
Edit: omg, why did I decide to check the forums.
You know, fun works both ways. When playing as and when facing. Vlad isn't an annoying character. He is a poorly designed one.HappyPuppy said:
2nd, looking at the patch notes... They barely touched him. He gained a single second to the final level of Transfusion and lost 10/20 damage to the last two, but gained it to the first two. The last one actually helps him.
WHOA @ the new Morgana splash art.
From hands down worst to one of the top best.
Linky: http://i.imgur.com/Q4iGq.jpg
From hands down worst to one of the top best.
Linky: http://i.imgur.com/Q4iGq.jpg
NemesisPrime
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red_13th said:
Painted on bra FTW!
HappyBivouac
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So since I'm living in China for the summer, I figured it would be fun (with the bonus of not dealing with horrendous ping) to play some Chinese LoL. It's a bit of a strange world but really not at all different. There's some different art, descriptions are all unreadable to me, champs speak Chinese, and the players all type in Chinese, but besides that it's the same game. Here's me as Nunu:
I know what it feels like to smurf now.
I know what it feels like to smurf now.
shintoki said:
Because of the CD, it's a bit more noticeable. Adding 10/20 damage to the first 2 levels, while it helps, only increases DPS per 12 seconds by 10/20. Whereas at level 5, not only are people able to cast the spell less often (lets say 3 times in 12 seconds @ 4s CDR VS 4 times in 12 seconds @ 3s CDR), it's also losing damage/healing up front - it adds up to 300 damage difference.
TLDR, in a 12-second team fight (admittedly on the long side), Vlad's Q (not counting upgrades) previously would have done 1,000 damage, now it does 690.
Not that I'm complaining, I've been an advocate of Vlad nerfs for a while - a mage shouldn't get perks to his damage by building health or vice versa, IMO casters are supposed to be relatively fragile.
thestopsign
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EXGN said:
I find if Vlad doesn't get any defensive items, he melts just as fast as any other caster. The only thing that makes him last a bit longer/easily escape is his pool, and that isn't really fool proof anymore.
FallingEdge
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I love playing support. Taric, Zil, Soraka, Janna. Super fun for me. I'll leave the kills for my teammates haha..
FallingEdge said:
I love playing with good supports, but I hate when someone in solo Q chooses them because at my Elo (1100) people tend to try to play them as carries
This reminds me of a game I had recently where I played as Garen and laned with Soraka. We laned against an Eve and Xin Zhao and they tried to dive me at half life. I silenced XZ before he could pop me, but Eve stunned me, drawing aggro from the tower.
Rather than healing me or silencing Xin or doing anything useful, my Soraka chased after Eve spamming Starfall, trying to get the kill on the half-life Eve. Predictably, I died, Eve cloaked away for a moment, and then XZ and Eve finished off the over extending Soraka.
problem with yorick is that he needs so much to do so little
he's a tank with hardcore mana problems who also needs a high cdr rate
add lackluster ghouls and he's a champ that needs so much just to do decent
his early game ain't bad, but it's hard to handle
he needs buffs, and a more forgiving mana drain. I can't use tank runes on the dude cuz he needs all the mana regen he can get
he's a tank with hardcore mana problems who also needs a high cdr rate
add lackluster ghouls and he's a champ that needs so much just to do decent
his early game ain't bad, but it's hard to handle
he needs buffs, and a more forgiving mana drain. I can't use tank runes on the dude cuz he needs all the mana regen he can get
shintoki said:
I've been playing a pretty kickass Soraka for months and since Dreamhack I feel like I'm Doing It Wrong. All the supports in the matches I watched were just buying gold farming items and endless wards - sure, wards are important, but surely buying useful items for your team are too like Soul Shroud etc.? Why build a philosopher's stone on Janna when you can have a catalyst and be infinitely more useful?
Completely different scenarios. That's the highly competitive team matches, were a support is only meant to support the bottom carry and let him farm. And to be 100% fair, I don't particularly even agree with that method. They had no mana, no AP, or really anything to add to the team. It leans heavily on the side that the game will be over in 30 minutes and your carries can carry.BluWacky said:
If I played like that as a support, I'd lose a shit load.
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SouthernDragon
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kiunchbb said:
It was bad enough doing horribly the night before my exam and causing the team to fail, it sucked to have the entire team verbally ragging on me.
I dunno if I should play until my exams are over.
Other than an Aegis (if your tank won't get one), the support really should focus on being useful for the team rather than buying items for himself. The way I see it: why get a catalyst when you could get a philosophers + oracles + wards and be infintely more useful for the team? I mean, that catalyst won't really help your team, will it? You're still squishy, so you still need to position yourself correctly. Increased map control, however, will give your team an advantage.BluWacky said:
It really is more effective to not steal last hits from your carry, which means you won't have enough gold to try and build "real" items and still be able to ward well and have oracle.
The gold per 10 items are excellent for supports since you don't need to farm to be able to get gold for wards. If your team is doing well you'll get assists and be able to buy other items from that gold if you find yourself having more gold than you can use for wards.
This is a big part of the European meta, which has proven itself to work really well.
Yes, I play in EU
Well, they nerfed Gold for 10 items a bit, since they are now unique. Not a major problem for most classes, since you can still stack the 3 types of Gold Per 10 Items, but you can't just make 3 hearts of gold for example.
Letting the carry farm as a support isn't to hard, its trying to let them get the kill that can be hard.
Letting the carry farm as a support isn't to hard, its trying to let them get the kill that can be hard.
HappyPuppy
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I like this new champ, he was about to be my main but they hotfix it.
I like to troll or annoy once in a while. Well it's back to Teemo and Singed I guess. Oh there was this bug where your teammates would die and then come back from the grave uuuuuuhhhh.
I like to troll or annoy once in a while. Well it's back to Teemo and Singed I guess. Oh there was this bug where your teammates would die and then come back from the grave uuuuuuhhhh.
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