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Depends on the character I use and how the teams are built. When I got Nasus, Mundo, Udyr, or Singed. I normally go Exhaust or Cleanse + Ghost. Flash seems useless to me since all 4 of those characters have high natural movement speed. Tanks too, depending on if we need an exhaust or an ignite. My last game as Leona, I went Tele and Ignite.Blizzard said:
At the same time, any squishy I pick will always have flash.
I just recently purchased Orianna and have been loving her as well. I've also been doing really good with her, either by luck or her just clicking with me, but I'll try to help.Achtius said:
My rune page is really general but I have mana per 5 per lvl for glyphs, magic pen for marks, health per 5 per lvl for seals, and flat health for quints, and my masteries are 9/0/21.
I start with a mana gem and 2 health pots. This allows me to harrass alot early game. I max attack first, then I rotate points between dissonance and the shield. Your q and w combo can do some decent damage early on if both hit. If your opponent in your lane is doing better than you then back up and play defensively, use your ball to keep them off your tower. If you are doing well, use your ball to zone them away from your creeps, denying them xp and and gold.
My build order is tear, cd boots, mejai's, rod of ages, archangel, deathcap, abyssal scepter. People sometimes make fun of me for getting mejai's, but I almost always stack it to 20. In the end I have over 900 ap.
Once it gets to mid game, start stickin with your team. Orianna is amazing support but doesn't fare well in 1v1 situations. I basically hang back and when the team fight insues I throw my ball in, ult, shield whoever is getting low on health and just keep the ball moving.
That being said, I don't know if this is the best way to play her but I've had lots of luck with it.
This kind of figures given the 8/10 number I was saying, but I wish it wasn't something that everyone always picked, or else I wish that they would just make it an automatic skill everyone has and can use, in addition to one or two other summoner spells. Imagine how boring LoL would be if every game had a Master Yi in it!Ikuu said:
Sion question: Is there any reason NOT to have the 'e' ability up 100% of the time? It increases your HP with each kill and is supposed to "cost" HP/health, but as far as I can tell, if there is a health cost, it only happens right when you turn the spell on. By the end of the battle I think I had 3000 health or so. Oddly enough my armor and magic resist were far lower than normal malphite levels, but I seemed to be taking less damage in general. Maybe I just stayed out of fights more.
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on Orianna I stack 2-3 doran's rings early and rush deathcap(probably only picking up boots and maybe catalyst before it)
Getting the doran's early gives me the early game burst to farm and pick up kills, so by the time midgame rolls around I have death cap and im melting teams with my ulti
after that I either go void staff if they're building MR, or will of the ancients/morello's for cheap damage with good stats. I've never really played a game long enough to go passed this point, but late late game I'd probably build my catalyst into banshees and buy zhonyas
I just use standard caster runes and masteries(9/0/21 and magipen reds, mana regen yellows and ap blues and quints) and take CV and flash as summoners(taking ghost instead if my team has a real support that picks CV)
and oh yeah I prioritize R>W>E>Q(you could probably switch E and Q, but I only really use attack for moving my ball more than the damage so I take E instead)
I disagree. She's actually extremely strong as mid solo. That's the reason her dissonance was nerfed. Her early game harass is extremely good
Even after the nerfs im able to secure kills early by harassing with dissonance, then killing them from under their tower with her ultimate then dissonance
Orianna is a mediocre support champion, but one of the strongest ap carries in the game(amazing AoE burst damage from a distance)
Master Yi isn't as versatile and comparatively better than every other option like Flash is to summoner spells.
I personally don't find the summoner spell system that interesting to begin with, so I don't really mind that there are only like 3-4 viable selections in addition to flash
Getting the doran's early gives me the early game burst to farm and pick up kills, so by the time midgame rolls around I have death cap and im melting teams with my ulti
after that I either go void staff if they're building MR, or will of the ancients/morello's for cheap damage with good stats. I've never really played a game long enough to go passed this point, but late late game I'd probably build my catalyst into banshees and buy zhonyas
I just use standard caster runes and masteries(9/0/21 and magipen reds, mana regen yellows and ap blues and quints) and take CV and flash as summoners(taking ghost instead if my team has a real support that picks CV)
and oh yeah I prioritize R>W>E>Q(you could probably switch E and Q, but I only really use attack for moving my ball more than the damage so I take E instead)
I disagree. She's actually extremely strong as mid solo. That's the reason her dissonance was nerfed. Her early game harass is extremely good
Even after the nerfs im able to secure kills early by harassing with dissonance, then killing them from under their tower with her ultimate then dissonance
Orianna is a mediocre support champion, but one of the strongest ap carries in the game(amazing AoE burst damage from a distance)
Master Yi isn't as versatile and comparatively better than every other option like Flash is to summoner spells.
I personally don't find the summoner spell system that interesting to begin with, so I don't really mind that there are only like 3-4 viable selections in addition to flash
Mr. B Natural
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I don't "get" nunu. Can't seem to gank after jungling cause I do no damage. Yeah, I slow em down, but, then what? Punch em for 2 damage?
Monkey boy needs a nerf, but I guess they gotta justify the 10 bucks/grind for 3 months for one character bs somehow. Pentakills on a new character that isn't "mastered" yet is...yeah.
Trying Urgot and Zilean tonight, see if those characters click with me like Rumble did last week. Zilean might be up my alley. Urgot needs a shower and a manicure or something. Seriously, get a job hippy.
Monkey boy needs a nerf, but I guess they gotta justify the 10 bucks/grind for 3 months for one character bs somehow. Pentakills on a new character that isn't "mastered" yet is...yeah.
Trying Urgot and Zilean tonight, see if those characters click with me like Rumble did last week. Zilean might be up my alley. Urgot needs a shower and a manicure or something. Seriously, get a job hippy.
Interficium
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Never a fan of stacking doran's items early. I'm all about win your lane, win the game, but three dorans ESPECIALLY along with a mejai's is basically punting your late game, if you end up not doing great early you're fucked.
I tried nunu and did okay, but aside from the iceball the ult seems to be the only way to really hurt people. I guess you crank up your AP really high and try to catch people in the ult? I had a nunu on my team that apparently did ~1900 damage to somebody with an ult.Mr. B Natural said:
I wish my not-even-good characters got pentakills then.Dance In My Blood said:
(I'm sure everyone's experience is different)Mr. B Natural
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I experienced the opposite. I guess we'll have to see as time goes how it works out. But regardless, I really don't find him interesting in the least. LoL doesn't need more hybrid characters that remind me of this guy's blah + that guy's blah. Champions are homogenized enough, imo.Dance In My Blood said:
Nunu's ult is nice, but it's also extremely risky, and because I'm playing solo, something I can bank on. Maybe it's because I was jungling and unable to complete a gank, but I couldn't keep up experience/money wise with nunu. That didn't help.
Tried teemo yesterday too. So darn squishy with no CC....yeah. Not my thing I guess. Again, maybe he's more capable in an organized match, but solo, I felt like I was asking for it at all times.
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who said anything about mejais?
and with about 2-3 doran's and 3 levels of dissonance you're dropping the back row of a creep wave with one W. Making farming her a breeze for the rest of the game.
That in combination with the cheap early game sustain allows them to pay for themselves easily. They're a much better investment than tear or alot of the other things people are building on her.
but yeah if you stay in lane long enough to farm up enough for catalyst or needlessly large rod, get those instead. I usually end up pushing my opponent out of lane before that happens, so I push the lane when they do and go back to base to buy my doran's, a couple pots and a ward.(I also do this in the case I get pushed out of lane)
Well yeah if we're strictly talking about hypothetical damage potential
but I moreso meant that with her skillset and utility there aren't many picks better than her for the role.
bigmakattack
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I'm really wondering if the changes to Tyrnd are going to make him more useful. In the 4 games I played yesterday, there were 2, although only one was actually competent, and he seemed to be able to some damage earlier on thanks to him getting crit based on his fury rather than his lack of health. Hopefully more games will show if he is better, cause he's an awesome character, it just sucked having him considering if he didnt get farmed or fed, he never seemed to do all that well.
Also, in every game there was a Wukong, I felt thouroughly unimpressed by him. He's really damn tanky and tough to kill, but his damage seems lackluster and his one CC, which isn't even that great, comes on an ult that doesn't seem to do a lot of damage.
Also, in every game there was a Wukong, I felt thouroughly unimpressed by him. He's really damn tanky and tough to kill, but his damage seems lackluster and his one CC, which isn't even that great, comes on an ult that doesn't seem to do a lot of damage.
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He's pretty weak right now yeah
His Q and W don't scale off AD and his ultimate doesn't really scale well(like you said it does no damage.)
and the knock up duration seems really brief compared to other AOE knockups like chogath's and Alistar's. but that's just how it looks to me
He's not Yorick terrible but right now he's not really good at all.
I'm sure he probably hurts if fed though but I mean who doesn't
His Q and W don't scale off AD and his ultimate doesn't really scale well(like you said it does no damage.)
and the knock up duration seems really brief compared to other AOE knockups like chogath's and Alistar's. but that's just how it looks to me
He's not Yorick terrible but right now he's not really good at all.
I'm sure he probably hurts if fed though but I mean who doesn't
Ladyboy101
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wrong, spell vamp does stack with gunblade. spell vamp on gunblade is not unique passiveFerga said:
Retro_ said:
Yeah, I watched a few high ELO streams yesterday and a lot of people were comparing him to Xin but without CC (Xin has low-coold down pop up + a slow from E whereas Wukong only has his ult).
It seems AtMogs + Frozen Mallet would be a good build for him, it increases his tankiness while also providing him with a much-needed slow. Then maybe a Wits End for MR + AS. With his passive, I think that would make him really tough to kill while also making him a fairly potent threat.
I'm in no rush to buy him, though, so I'm just theory crafting til free week.
Mr. B Natural said:
Nunu is a terrible solo queue jungler and an amazing arranged team jungler.
He has excellent jungle control, he's a safe jungler and effective counter jungler. You have to think of Nunu as more of a Support than a Carry or DPS type. His job is to slow people and to buff your ranged AD and to be in the other team's jungle stealing shit.
bigmakattack said:
I watched Saint Vicious jungle Tryn some yesterday. Seems like he has all the same problems he did before and now he's actually worse because you have to choose between using your Fury to heal or keeping it up so you can Crit.
Owlowiscious
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nah. I never pick up flash and I do fine. the high cooldown balances it out with other summoner spellsIkuu said:
I would actually say Teleport is better in HoN, since you can have more then one teleport at a time (I think, correct me if I am wrong), and it has a shorter cooldown (65 seconds). It does cost 135 gold though.
The downside is that it does cost mana, and you don't have a built in Recall.
The downside is that it does cost mana, and you don't have a built in Recall.
Owlowiscious
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Flash has useful in many different ssituations. Teleport is very useful in the begining laning phase, then tapers off as time goes on.Dance In My Blood said:
Either way I agree.
I would say Teleport is useful as long as you have towers. Once you are down to the 3 inhibitor towers, it only becomes a faster recall in case you have to chase off a backdoorer.
I wish Riot would make rally more useful/appealing. (It is likely perfectly useful, just no one uses it)
Oddly enough, I think Riot was talking about making heal a more selfish ability, healing your self more but loosing the ability to heal others, which would suck IMO. Also wish I could use health pots on other people.
I wish Riot would make rally more useful/appealing. (It is likely perfectly useful, just no one uses it)
Oddly enough, I think Riot was talking about making heal a more selfish ability, healing your self more but loosing the ability to heal others, which would suck IMO. Also wish I could use health pots on other people.
Owlowiscious
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As a person that has no clue about anything, I would adjust rally to have CV's cooldown. if it isn't already, make it untargetable by the turret, and make it something you can't teleport to or skill target/hit like powerball blocking, and dies in 2 or 3 autoattacks, like a ward but maybe only two hitsDrkirby said:
please do not max out Q first. Q may do a little more damage, and have a shorter cooldown, but W has a built in haste/slow and a way larger radius. W is way more useful in team fights. Once you build tear on Orianna, you can basically spam spells in fountain, and use W to get to places faster.
Owlowiscious
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and a way better visual of its range. I put a rally down to the bottom-right of a turret and started hitting a turret and I and the missions on the bottom left of the turret were out of range of the rally :|Drkirby said:
and rally's mastery gives it +ap.
Teleport is extremely useful as long as you aren't getting killed. More if you have proper warding. Last game I used it in was Leona tank. Saved a few deaths and got a few kills + a tower thanks to it. And I was the one even dropping wards heh. Its even better if you have a character with massive burst and can lock up someone quick. Like Malz.
Shurelia is talking about some changes they may do to Karma. Some things that may happen so far are the leash silencing if done with Mantra, doing damage to the targeted champ, and getting a mantra back on kill/assist. Heal should stay the same.
Currently, the changed leash is implemented in the test build, not sure of the other things.
Currently, the changed leash is implemented in the test build, not sure of the other things.
shintoki said:
As someone that tends to solo top, teleport has quickly become a must-have spell for me. One game I was play as Cho, my team got caught trying to steal the other's blue - it started as a 3v1 as the enemy jungler stumbled into my team, but mid and bot lanes quickly converged, turning into a 3v4. Fortunately, our jungler had a ward and had just put it down in the bush, enabling me to TP in and turn the tides.
Another instance - I think this may have been a GAF game - I was top as Singed. Bottom got caught with a stun or something and the two enemy heroes dove at our two bot champs. Our minions were pushed up against their tower, though, which enabled me to port in behind the enemy, our two heroes turned back on the enemy and we pincered them for the double kill.
TP is so good if you have a team that wards.
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Fisticuffs
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poppy is 1350!!
Ladyboy101
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lost 6 games in a row, fuck all you noobs
QisTopTier
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gratsLadyboy101 said:
Jazzy Network
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Yea my Renekton is godlike. Whoever said my Renekton sucks, GTFO. And I was lagging all game too. Ballin.
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