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Owlowiscious
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mushroom disappears = someone's there, oracle or not
SouthernDragon
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Uchip said:
I'm not an moveable ass.
I thought that denying completely removed XP gain, in addition to gold. It doesn't, so my rage is gone. I just remember that early in DotA's history it FELT like I gained no XP, so it was incredibly frustrating.
A lot of the new features will make up for what neutered denying there is anyways. I think DotA's champions are much more creative and varied, too. Only thing I wish DotA 2 had was a universal recall button, brush, and skillshot markers. If they have these, I can't ask for much more in addition to their current feature set.
I'm going to learn how to jungle. What's a good guide?
So for my starting item for Leona I've been going Warmog's Armor, which I'm finding very nice. Some fellow gaf player said it was a bad choice since it was so expensive for a staritng item. Yet all it's pieces are priced well, and the extra hp early in the game is damn nice as a tank.
What would people suggest going first (though I'm sticking with Warmogs most likely!)
What would people suggest going first (though I'm sticking with Warmogs most likely!)
SouthernDragon
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We need a couple more for a game!
Owlowiscious
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I have runes and masteries at 20% CDR.
Edit: I also start with regrowth pendant + health pot
So I go Philo Stone, Heart of Gold, Red ball thingy, Merc treads, Shurelia, Randuins Omen, Sunfire's Cape or Rylai's Scepter or Banshee's Veil, final slot always filled with 5 wards.
Edit: I also start with regrowth pendant + health pot
So I go Philo Stone, Heart of Gold, Red ball thingy, Merc treads, Shurelia, Randuins Omen, Sunfire's Cape or Rylai's Scepter or Banshee's Veil, final slot always filled with 5 wards.
Ferrio said:
Start) Regrowth Pendant + Health Potion
Core) Philosopher Stone + Heart of Gold + Cooldown Reduction Boots
From there you can branch out although you can see Elementz grabs a Trinity Force. http://www.rog.clgaming.net/blogs/reign-of-elementz/2953-leona-champion-spotlight-video
Just started this game last night, only playing bots right now, but holy shit im addicted. Bought Ryze as my first char, kinda sucks after I'd gotten so used to Dr. Mundo. But whatever I'm learning with Ryze.
Also fuck Miss Fortune. No matter how hard I try I always seemed to get matched against her.
Also fuck Miss Fortune. No matter how hard I try I always seemed to get matched against her.
HappyPuppy
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kai3345 said:
Her Q is highly annoying if she knows how to use it effectively and her passive is also annoying but I really like her character design. I really like it when she says "You have dangerous eyes, I like that!". Very sensual character, I don't like women or cartoons >_>.
SouthernDragon
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Oh I meant unmoveable. derp
And I'd still like that recall button.
And I'd still like that recall button.
SouthernDragon
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yay -10
I'd like it for free, on me, and not taking up an item slot.
I know it's not happening, but I'm saying what I'd like.
I'd like it for free, on me, and not taking up an item slot.
I know it's not happening, but I'm saying what I'd like.
At one point, denying did completely remove XP gain. This was problematic so Icefrog introduced reduced XP gain.
http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/47-stonewalls-jungle
http://www.youtube.com/user/stonewall008?
All the jungling knowledge you could ever need.
Well, that sounds like Soraka will...not be very good in the future. Her heal was already weak unless you had a bunch of AP, and now you can only heal once every 20 seconds huh. >_>
I ended my 5-game winning streak by losing 3/4 tonight. I still like Sivir but it sure seems almost impossible to do anything with her without a bunch of items or a helpful team. My favorite time, even though we lost (had a leaver and people were dying) was when I was mid Sivir against Teemo. He and Twitch nearly ganked me, so I finally bought oracles since I wasn't dying. After that point it was awesome. Oh hi mushroom, free mana boost. Sometimes I'd even time the shield to block his blind attack. I only ever killed him once though, after he went toe to toe with me for some reason and I exhausted him.
I ended my 5-game winning streak by losing 3/4 tonight. I still like Sivir but it sure seems almost impossible to do anything with her without a bunch of items or a helpful team. My favorite time, even though we lost (had a leaver and people were dying) was when I was mid Sivir against Teemo. He and Twitch nearly ganked me, so I finally bought oracles since I wasn't dying. After that point it was awesome. Oh hi mushroom, free mana boost. Sometimes I'd even time the shield to block his blind attack. I only ever killed him once though, after he went toe to toe with me for some reason and I exhausted him.
Soraka needed it. Far too strong of a battery for carries on the bottom lane. Don't understand Sona nerf too much though. She doesn't have good mana gen, and to be useful normally means putting herself at risk. It seems kind of like the supposed Xin nerfs. They seem relatively balanced as it is.
CrazedProfessional
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So the nerfs to Support mean that everyone and their mother will just pick Tanky DPS >_>
Yeah LOL.
Last Sunday I tried playing Tristana, went solo top against Irelia.
I couldn't harass her or 1. she would heal herself by hitting minions, 2. if I ever got down, she would Bladesturge to last hit minions then Bladesurge me and stun me.
Either I got zoned out or I died.
Even if I moved in only to last hit, she would... Bladesurge to last hit minions, then Bladesurge to me, and stun/slow me.
I love how Bladesurge costs like 5 Mana and has a 2 seconds cooldown and Rocket Jump costs three fucking thousand mana with a ten minute cooldown.
Fuck Irelia. That's why I play only tanky DPS.
Last Sunday I tried playing Tristana, went solo top against Irelia.
I couldn't harass her or 1. she would heal herself by hitting minions, 2. if I ever got down, she would Bladesturge to last hit minions then Bladesurge me and stun me.
Either I got zoned out or I died.
Even if I moved in only to last hit, she would... Bladesurge to last hit minions, then Bladesurge to me, and stun/slow me.
I love how Bladesurge costs like 5 Mana and has a 2 seconds cooldown and Rocket Jump costs three fucking thousand mana with a ten minute cooldown.
Fuck Irelia. That's why I play only tanky DPS.
That's fair enough, but Sivir only has two ways to do any damage to people at all, barring ignite or items later on. She has no stun or slow, though I have been trying to build the full hextech revolver/blade thing. By the time I get that it is usually pretty late for slow to be useful versus lone people. I also run with exhaust to act as an expensive slow. She cannot do a lot of damage without being close enough to autoattack, and early on she has weak armor and magic resist. Unlike Ashe she does not have the long range damage, slow, and stun capabilities. Unlike Annie, she does not have stun or sheer AP damage options. Unlike Master Yi, she does not have a heal move and minion damage bonus chance to help with jungling, and the shield is useless in the jungle unless someone comes to gank you. Unlike Veigar she does not have the stun + nuke options.Boken said:
I am not meaning to complain about this or say she is underpowered, since she is great against turrets, I just feel that she is really not much of a carry compared to the others mentioned above and lacks burst damage options. Oh, and she seems pretty slow with level 2 shoes so it's not like you will be ganking from mid unless you're patient or using teleport.
Advice is welcome. Lately I have been trying to do a core build of teleport + exhaust, buying doran's blade, attack speed shoes, bloodthirster, hextech, black cleaver (I'm not sure I've ever actually had a game go long enough to get this for her, maybe once). One build suggested infinity edge but I think I read that crits don't affect the bounces and presumably don't affect the boomerange so it doesn't seem very worth it to me.
Then let me; Sivir is the most useless champion in the game and should never be picked by anyone who actually wants to contribute to their team.Blizzard said:
You want my advice on what you should do with Sivir? Stop playing her. You could be getting better at champions that will actually have an impact on games instead.
She will need major buffs if they double the CD on her heal (most stupid change of them all IMO).
Eh, she was lasthitting for life so it doesn't push the lane that hard (especially in comparison to Tristana), and she started with HP5 pendant and got a Philo first item, making harass almost irrelevant even without Hiten passive anyway.
Regarding mana issues. She has 265 mana at level 1. 335 mana at level 3 is around where she can harass relatively safely and with no escape unless you zone out (or Flash, I suppose). Bladesurge lv.1 (little need to level it higher than that during the laning phase) costs 60 and refunds 35 on a kill. Hiten passive doesn't cost mana, Equilibrium Strike costs 50 at rank 1.
Her natural mana regen at level 3 is around 9 mp/5 (pre-Philo), meaning she gets a free Bladesurge without the refund every 30 seconds.
Ultimoo said:
Eh, she was lasthitting for life so it doesn't push the lane that hard (especially in comparison to Tristana), and she started with HP5 pendant and got a Philo first item, making harass almost irrelevant even without Hiten passive anyway.
Regarding mana issues. She has 265 mana at level 1. 335 mana at level 3 is around where she can harass relatively safely and with no escape unless you zone out (or Flash, I suppose). Bladesurge lv.1 (little need to level it higher than that during the laning phase) costs 60 and refunds 35 on a kill. Hiten passive doesn't cost mana, Equilibrium Strike costs 50 at rank 1.
Her natural mana regen at level 3 is around 9 mp/5 (pre-Philo), meaning she gets a free Bladesurge without the refund every 30 seconds.
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The live team is doing the right thing and as usual they are being bashed for it.
It depends, Garen, Nasus and Yorick aren't that bad in my experience (currently maining Yorick so there might be some bias there).
Irelia is stupid, Xin kinda is, Jarvan I haven't seen in a while but he was the worst offender for a while. Trundle... depends. Morde is retarded, Nunu isn't that bad after nerfs.
The worst, worst, worst worst worst WORST of them all is Udyr.
I cringe whenever I see Udyr on the opposing team.
Tiger Stance is balanced.
EDIT: to make it clear that's all my opinion, not facts.
Irelia is stupid, Xin kinda is, Jarvan I haven't seen in a while but he was the worst offender for a while. Trundle... depends. Morde is retarded, Nunu isn't that bad after nerfs.
The worst, worst, worst worst worst WORST of them all is Udyr.
I cringe whenever I see Udyr on the opposing team.
Tiger Stance is balanced.
EDIT: to make it clear that's all my opinion, not facts.
Legato.Reborn-
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kiunchbb said:
Today, 08:00 AM
We are fixing a bug on Sona that caused her to deal 20% less damage than stated on her tooltips.
The net result will be an increase to her damage from what you have been experiencing on live.
-Shurelia
Haha, thanks. She was fun but I really feel she is primarily good at farming a middle lane and/or backdooring turrets (which yi can probably do better).Dance In My Blood said:
I will move on and try some new champions this week in my neverending quest to do awesome. Perhaps kogmaw! I hear he can be cheesy and annoying.
*edit* I agree that the -doubled- cooldown on Soraka's heal seems pretty crazy. Healing was her main focus and now it heals less damage and can be used far less often, if I understand correctly.
Tankwick: Razor -> Boots -> Wriggles -> Berserker/Merc -> Sunfire or Banshees -> Items as the situation demandsAchtius said:
Lanewick: Doran's Ring -> Boots -> Doran's Ring or skip for Sorc Boots -> Sunfire or Banshees -> Same as above
Kogwick: Razor -> Berserker -> Bloodrazor -> Malady -> Wits End
I don't actually know how to play him as an AD carry, he always feels better as an offtank.
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