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League of Legends |OT| Free to play Dota clone (PC)
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witchedwiz
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tonight it's gonna be LLLLLLlegendary!
time to try riven!
i don't want to try new morde and cry some huge tears, so i'll just try to forget he's there :/
time to try riven!
i don't want to try new morde and cry some huge tears, so i'll just try to forget he's there :/
So, I need to think on a good Riven build. I don't like the suggestion items that much.
Seems to me the only stat she really cares about is straight up damage and crit. Attack speed is nice, but you only should be auto attacking once between your Qs. Life steal seems okay, but not sure if it's work it since again... not many autos. Cooldown reduction isn't bad, but there aren't many items that seem to mesh well with her.
Also something to be able to catch up to the enemy is nice, but both items (mallet, ghostblade) cause you to stall out a bit.
Seems to me the only stat she really cares about is straight up damage and crit. Attack speed is nice, but you only should be auto attacking once between your Qs. Life steal seems okay, but not sure if it's work it since again... not many autos. Cooldown reduction isn't bad, but there aren't many items that seem to mesh well with her.
Also something to be able to catch up to the enemy is nice, but both items (mallet, ghostblade) cause you to stall out a bit.
SouthernDragon
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Malzahar is mad.
So mad.
Ferrio said:
Well, there is Shurelya's Reverie, which has the active effect of a 40% speed boost for 3 seconds every 60 seconds. The mana regen is useless on Riven, but the other parts are still pretty good (30 HP/5, 15% CCR, 330 Health), it costs 2200 though. You are more or less paying 925 Gold for the 30 HP/5 and the active ability, which may not be worth it.
My math is the Kindle Gem is 850, has 200 HP plus 10% CCR, so that times 1.5 is 1275, which covers the price for just the HP and CCR, then subtract it from the total.
The Brutalizer also feels like it would be a good item, maybe get that and build it into a Ghost Blade only if the game goes on long?
Personally, I don't know if building crit stuff is the best course. None of her abilities can get critical hits, her passive doesn't double with critical hits, and you even said she doesn't auto attack much. Maybe focus on just AD, Cooldown Reduction, and Survivability, and some more utility?
Melhisedek
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Well last night I played this one for the first time. Played 2 matches co-op vs AI.
It was really fun although I didn't really know much of what to do. A few questions for the LoL gurus:
1. Should I constantly use my specials on enemy heroes (sometimes mobs) or preserve mana?
I find that I fall back in levels if I go back to the base to recover often...
2. How do I get more heroes?
3. There are skill trees that I noticed while fooling around in the launcher and I have like 2 points (looks there are a lot more to be had) so how do I spend them? Are they hero specific or just global? (for all heroes)
4. Should I go for recommended items or can I just buy whatever items I have money for?
and any random tips you can think of please drop me a line
Thank you for your time!
It was really fun although I didn't really know much of what to do. A few questions for the LoL gurus:
1. Should I constantly use my specials on enemy heroes (sometimes mobs) or preserve mana?
I find that I fall back in levels if I go back to the base to recover often...
2. How do I get more heroes?
3. There are skill trees that I noticed while fooling around in the launcher and I have like 2 points (looks there are a lot more to be had) so how do I spend them? Are they hero specific or just global? (for all heroes)
4. Should I go for recommended items or can I just buy whatever items I have money for?
and any random tips you can think of please drop me a line
Thank you for your time!
SouthernDragon
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Melhisedek said:
Nope. Mana management. Do you constantly use EX/Super/Ultra whatever moves in other games? Nope, you save 'em until it counts.
In game currency you earn or real money.
At this point, it doesn't matter. Riot lets you make 10 pages for Masteries, so you can eventually configure it for specific champions.
Look for guides on SoloMid.
and any random tips you can think of please drop me a line
Thank you for your time!
Join the NeoGAF chat channel. There are lots of new people playing.
It's pretty useless and ignores the basics of Kayle's original design. She is slow as shit, her old buff was lower but lasted longer to give her a decent movespeed overall. Now she just kind of plods along and moves a little bit faster for such an insignificant amount of time.Ferga said:
NemesisPrime
Banned
Mr. B Natural said:
Ha? Cool! Singed is my main... I look forward to killing even MORE people now
I expected a nerf TBH since IMHO Singed is one of the most OP heroes around (especially end game).
NemesisPrime
Banned
Grakl said:
/tosses Grakl into a gangrape-hungry bunch of armed-to-the-teeth DPS
Mr. B Natural
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This looked like a shit ass backward patch on paper.
Played like shit too.
Played like shit too.
SouthernDragon
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Blizzard said:
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No, Annie is the faceroll character. Actually, it's not even a close comparison.Uchip said:
Silhouette is OP in HoN right now but she takes skill to utilize well. Annie takes no skill at all. The skill to reward ratio on her is dangerously low.
EDIT:
Also, does anyone know if Riot has their design team or balance team handle reworks?
I hate when people say something like this about Annie or Garen, since I'm a level 30 pro, and when I've tried Annie and Garen before, I was terrible in both regards.Nome said:
I suppose when someone said the good people mid eat Annie alive, they mean after they survive the burst damage, the stun (1-2 seconds?), and presumably don't get ganked, they have enough abilities and damage left to kill Annie? Because otherwise I'm not sure what to do against an Annie that keeps all spells ready with a stun 100% of the time and just last-hits minions. If you walk within range and don't have a spell shield you will take all of her damage, every time, leaving you with 20-25% HP if not less. Is the answer to try to get a banshee's veil at level 6 or something? =P Or to make sure you get mercury's treads whenever against Annie so you take less burst damage?
Boken said:
^^
The thing is in a game like this there are multiple types of skill required. In terms of strict execution required to get off her skills and do maximum damage, annie requires some of the least skill in the game, that is true. On the other hand she is one of the squishiest characters in the game, doesn't have great range as far as the squishy casters go, which means she requires a whole different set of skills to play effectively IMO.
Careful movement and positioning and map awareness are just as much 'skills' as being able to properly hit your skills imo. You can be a master at hitting skill shots and still get caught out of position. Against some of the longer range mids, it takes a lot of skill to play annie effectively.
Champs like garen are very forgiving in both aspects of skill, they can get away with sloppy positioning and they aren't skill shot reliant.
Try my secret AD build for Riven. Youmoo's Ghostblade AND Brutalizer, the armour pen stacks giving you about 70 which will take them to 0 even in mid/late, plus 25% CDR from pure offence. Sure it's not optimal if the game goes 50min and you want to fill that 6th slot with something different but the vast majority of games are decided by then if not finished.
One of these days I need to find all the equations that are involved with doing damage. I do not understand these maths.
If someone has say, 50 armor at some level, and I hit them with an ability that's supposed to do 700 + 200 damage with 0% armor penetration, how much damage do they actually take? What if I have 40% armor penetration due to last whisper?
If someone has say, 50 armor at some level, and I hit them with an ability that's supposed to do 700 + 200 damage with 0% armor penetration, how much damage do they actually take? What if I have 40% armor penetration due to last whisper?
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/ArmorBlizzard said:
Doesn't really matter. League is so spammy you're not going to completely fuck up a gank if your calculations are off.
(trollolololol)
I really wish they could do something about filtering out bad players..
I'm trying to learn shaco and this last game, my bot lane gives up 10 kills within about 12 min, feeding their MF and after I "SECURE" a kill from a top gank, our top solo gets pissed that I "ks" and AFKed for the rest of the game.
I swear to god...
I'm trying to learn shaco and this last game, my bot lane gives up 10 kills within about 12 min, feeding their MF and after I "SECURE" a kill from a top gank, our top solo gets pissed that I "ks" and AFKed for the rest of the game.
I swear to god...
SouthernDragon
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Play with GAF, bro.
Thanks for the link. I guess what I meant was, if I have an ability that says it's going to do 900 damage, I want to get a feel for whether it's really going to do 900 damage, or just 300 damage, or what. If I'm understanding correctly then, for some typical person midgame with 50-70 armor, if Caitlyn has 40-50% armor penetration, I can expect the ult to do 600-700 damage, which is say, 20%-40% of some random champion's HP.Halycon said:
As I said, there are not many situations in LoL which requires finely tuned calculations. This is exacerbated by the abundance of Armor and MR items. I believe Riot doesn't actually want you to be aware of precisely how much damage you're going to do, or how much damage someone is going to do to you. This is to lighten the burden of information on the player.Blizzard said:
Does it suck hitting someone with a Cait/Karth/Lux ult and seeing them walk away with 10 health? Yeah, but it's unavoidable. As you play you'll get a better feel for it, that's the best you can hope for in LoL.
If you absolutely must have numbers, it is perfectly possible to check their armor during or before a fight. You can mouse over their armor values after left clicking on them to see the percentages and do a quick and dirty estimate.
I did back when I played DOTA. For heroes like Pyro or WS it is pretty important to know exactly how much alpha you can do. Or whether your opponent has enough mana to cast spell x. These numbers can make or break a solo gank. Hell, it became second nature to multiply all my nukes by 0.75, because that was the base magic resistance for every hero.Boken said:
I don't do it as often these days because it's harder to keep track (thanks to Magic Armor items) but I still bust out the mathcraft from time to time. And it's nearly impossible in LoL because of skill scaling.
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