SouthernDragon
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Everythin' 'cept the ragin'.
We don't look kindly on that.
We don't look kindly on that.
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I just want to say one more time that Heimer is the shit on Dom LOL
SouthernDragon
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He's good
Defends base all day
Lost the last dominion game. : /
I did poorly, and one of us kept running away from turrets to defend :x
Defends base all day
Lost the last dominion game. : /
I did poorly, and one of us kept running away from turrets to defend :x
dragonlife
Member
Dominion will be my Holy grail when it comes to gaining IP. Super fun mode, short, and just all-around awesome.AcridMeat said:Blitzcrank is quite fun. Why does he have to be 6300 too.
I've already made over 2K IP, and it's only the beta (no boosts, either) <_< I'm waiting for the official release to get another IP Boost. GONNA BE SO GOOD. lol free time </3
Been playing a lot of dominion, and it seems really unbalanced so far. Every champ seems useful, unlike a couple champs in SR, but there are more than a few (poppy, akali, shaco, jax to name a few) which are just a cut above the rest. Drafting sort of solves it, but not always.
les papillons sexuels
Banned
Blizzard said:
riven is a full tank imo, best way to play her is with an atma, frozen mallet, and warmog.
GAF vs GAF, GAF wins. The game was kinda long, no one attempted baron, surprisingly. Each side have dragon few times I think. People keep stealing my ward gold. Team battle was interesting, although Jarvan e->q was a good initiator, he usually dies to Pickle's and Tek's amazing dps. Singed vs Singed was interesting. And I usually save my stun for Jax since he is the only one who can burst me to death. Otherwise, I just keep kiting people with my Q.
Also according to Kiunch, Eve is legit.
And yes, I got tears, and I know how GAF hate tears
Mister Wilhelm
Member
Trying to make the ultimate Kog'maw dominion build.
So far, I've got two paths...
First build - 8,845 gold
Berserker Greaves
Malady
Sword of the Devine
Wit's End
Stark's Fervor
+25 Ability Power
+150% Attack Speed
+30 Magic Resist
+62 Magic Damage per attack and +100 Magic Damage every 4th attack.
- Attacks lower the target's Magic Resist in stacks of four.
- Also gives you the active that provide dodgeless attacks and armor penetration.
- Gives nearby allied champions 20% Lifesteal, 20% Attack Speed, and 30 Health per 5 seconds regenerated. Reduces the Armor of nearby enemy champions by 20.
Second build - 10,115+ gold
Berserker Greaves
Madred's Bloodrazor
Phantom Dancer
Stark's Fervor
(situational)
+30 Damage
+95% Attack Speed
+25 Armor
+30% Critical Strike
+15% Movement Speed
- Attacks deal 4% of the targets total health in damage
- Gives nearby allied champions 20% Lifesteal, 20% Attack Speed, and 30 Health per 5 seconds regenerated. Reduces the Armor of nearby enemy champions by 20.
Kog needs lifesteal to be viable in dom and Stark's lets you build it for cheap early on and cap it with a team fight buff later.
So far, I'm thinking the first build is more viable as it tops out earlier and gives you a lot of smaller pieces to build at a time. Mixing and matching a few items might also work.
The first build I'm thinking is particularly good because almost everyone builds armor in dom and with the bonus magic damage each attack including the whammy +162 magic damage 4th attacks you can shred them. With all the trash minions running around, it would be easy to que one of these up and with the %150 attack speed, you're going to pile on +448 damage on your first salvo.
Thoughts?
So far, I've got two paths...
First build - 8,845 gold
Berserker Greaves
Malady
Sword of the Devine
Wit's End
Stark's Fervor
+25 Ability Power
+150% Attack Speed
+30 Magic Resist
+62 Magic Damage per attack and +100 Magic Damage every 4th attack.
- Attacks lower the target's Magic Resist in stacks of four.
- Also gives you the active that provide dodgeless attacks and armor penetration.
- Gives nearby allied champions 20% Lifesteal, 20% Attack Speed, and 30 Health per 5 seconds regenerated. Reduces the Armor of nearby enemy champions by 20.
Second build - 10,115+ gold
Berserker Greaves
Madred's Bloodrazor
Phantom Dancer
Stark's Fervor
(situational)
+30 Damage
+95% Attack Speed
+25 Armor
+30% Critical Strike
+15% Movement Speed
- Attacks deal 4% of the targets total health in damage
- Gives nearby allied champions 20% Lifesteal, 20% Attack Speed, and 30 Health per 5 seconds regenerated. Reduces the Armor of nearby enemy champions by 20.
Kog needs lifesteal to be viable in dom and Stark's lets you build it for cheap early on and cap it with a team fight buff later.
So far, I'm thinking the first build is more viable as it tops out earlier and gives you a lot of smaller pieces to build at a time. Mixing and matching a few items might also work.
The first build I'm thinking is particularly good because almost everyone builds armor in dom and with the bonus magic damage each attack including the whammy +162 magic damage 4th attacks you can shred them. With all the trash minions running around, it would be easy to que one of these up and with the %150 attack speed, you're going to pile on +448 damage on your first salvo.
Thoughts?
les papillons sexuels
Banned
Ferrio said:
I disagree.
If you use boots, frozen mallet, atma and warmog as base items it leaves you open 2 more slots. If the opposing team is heavy ad build a thorn, if it's heavy AP, build a force of nature. If you're dying to both, build both, dying to neither build AD.
dragonlife
Member
Phreak is streaming, if anyone's bored.
dragonlife
Member
Yes.
Mister Wilhelm said:
I highly recommend the recommended build actually (boots, phage, malady, madreds replacement, mallet)
the slows are excellent for picking off people fleeing after you interrupt with ult. I disagree that Kog needs lifesteal, though I do get the BT replacement sometimes (just in case my damage begins to abate; I seem to usually be able to 1v1 anyone without it though).
I find that kog pretty much has enough innate dps, so the 100% slow adds much utility to him. In fact, sometimes its better to scare someone off a point with very very little health (pretty situational), since some people never b in dominion. they'll just hang around and die 30 seconds later.
Kog's passive is incredibly fun in dominion! And his q works much better than it would in SR, since dominion is all about hunkering down and team fighting. I have yet to try a straight up AP build though (sry neki). Also, I still highly value flash in dominion, even over ghost.
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Achtius said:GAF vs GAF, GAF wins. The game was kinda long, no one attempted baron, surprisingly. Each side have dragon few times I think. People keep stealing my ward gold. Team battle was interesting, although Jarvan e->q was a good initiator, he usually dies to Pickle's and Tek's amazing dps. Singed vs Singed was interesting. And I usually save my stun for Jax since he is the only one who can burst me to death. Otherwise, I just keep kiting people with my Q.
Also according to Kiunch, Eve is legit.
And yes, I got tears, and I know how GAF hate tears
So much rage, Eve is good since by merely walking around, people wasting money for ward and oracle is great advantage =D.
Not to mention she is great at ganging, I just wish she had damage that Master Yi has. The life drain is disappointing =/
dragonlife
Member
Wow, I love Xin Zhao. He's so fun.
I tried jungle Xin -- did badly I think. Just now tried the build a really good guy used in PVP -- doing horribly. I just can't understand how to hurt people and not die in 2-4 shots.dragonlife said:
*edit* For example, I have 6 kills, 7 deaths against intermediate bots. I'm convinced the guy who just started playing like a week ago is already way better than me both bots and PVP. Why am I so worse than everyone? I PLAY SO MUCH.
dragonlife
Member
I did 15/3/14 my first time on intermediate bots with him. His W -> Q is pretty awesome.Blizzard said:I tried jungle Xin -- did badly I think. Just now tried the build a really good guy used in PVP -- doing horribly. I just can't understand how to hurt people and not die in 2-4 shots.
*edit* For example, I have 6 kills, 7 deaths against intermediate bots. I'm convinced the guy who just started playing like a week ago is already way better than me both bots and PVP. Why am I so worse than everyone? I PLAY SO MUCH.
People say these kinds of things and it just kinda reinforces the idea that I shouldn't play his game at all. :/ Like, what things are new people doing that are so much better than my expert knowledge gained from guides and like 400 games played? ;;dragonlife said:
I'm like...0/4/5 with Orianna now, intermediate bots again. She is so hard to use, but she sounds like GLADOS so that's really fun.
*edit* I never got a single kill with orianna in a 30+ minute intermediate bot game. The Q supposedly does 300 damage but it didn't even phase the bots I guess?
Yeah, I got in right at the end of it also. Came home late from work, got on with the wife. We get in one game, but then saw the "this game mode has been disabled" or whatever when we tried to requeue =(Kod1ak said:
I've only played 4 games total of Dominion so I can't really speak to possible balance issues or whatever, but my first impression is really positive. It's a nice change of pace from the more drawn out regular games. And I do incredibly well with Udyr for some reason. I'm mediocre at best in 5's with him, but was killin' it in Dominion.
So after getting stuck with a bunch of wankers last night, started doing very well this morning and journey into rank again.
I just felt bad. I got put in a game I clearly should not have been in. I wreck their center at level 3, gank top, back to the center, back to the top. 21 kills and 19 consist of me. 23 minute surrender. I had deathcap and cast 12 minutes in.
I just felt bad. I got put in a game I clearly should not have been in. I wreck their center at level 3, gank top, back to the center, back to the top. 21 kills and 19 consist of me. 23 minute surrender. I had deathcap and cast 12 minutes in.
One, bots aren't players.Blizzard said:I tried jungle Xin -- did badly I think. Just now tried the build a really good guy used in PVP -- doing horribly. I just can't understand how to hurt people and not die in 2-4 shots.
*edit* For example, I have 6 kills, 7 deaths against intermediate bots. I'm convinced the guy who just started playing like a week ago is already way better than me both bots and PVP. Why am I so worse than everyone? I PLAY SO MUCH.
2nd, if you want my opinion on why you continually have trouble. Its not going to be nice, but it will be honest.
ShadyMilkman
Banned
so I did the cool 'get alistar for free' thing
how the hell do you build him
how the hell do you build him
thestopsign
Member
I found out I still got it with WW in ranked. First two games I go 6-2-15 and 5-1-3.
ShadyMilkman said:
Support.
Start faerie charm, wards, and pots > philo stone and ionian boots or merc treads > aegis of legion > frozen heart or shurelya's. Oracles when you can afford it, and bunches of wards. Spirit visage is a good early alternate item against AP heavy teams.
If it goes late and you get rich, you get randuins and FoN.
You can build him pure tank or AP and be viable, but it doesn't work well for laning IMO, as his heal and stun are too valuable for you to not be in the lane with your ad carry, even if he can be viable as a solo top in some matchups, or as a jungler. So you won't have the gold to really get much out of an AP build, and a pure tank build won't be much tankier than a support build given how broke you will be, but the support auras will help much more in a team fight. Plus his ult makes him basically unkillable long enough to get a good engage and first kill off in a team fight, even with no tank items. Headbutt > pulv > ult on a vulnerable target to initiate a team fight and it's instantly a 4v5, and if the other team focuses you after you blow all your cds, that just 10 secs or so of the rest of your team getting free damage off on their team.
SouthernDragon
Member
I noticed I was in the lead in posts back when I had only 700~ in this thread.
It's a problem. :x
It's a problem. :x
Teknopathetic
Member
Apparently, that's bad play to him.
SouthernDragon
Member
Dominion is largely based on things people hate about SR; sitting at towers, running around defending, backdooring, ect.
People have to get used to a different way of thinking, especially fights. If you chase the opposition away from the tower, that's good. You don't need to kill the opponent, just weaken them and chase them away.
People have to get used to a different way of thinking, especially fights. If you chase the opposition away from the tower, that's good. You don't need to kill the opponent, just weaken them and chase them away.
inky said:
It seems like there is some heavy rubber-banding going on in the mode. I had a game where we held 3 towers for the first 15 minutes. They held 3 for the last 8-10, and they pulled ahead and won.
Mode seems alright. It's fun, but SR still feels like the superior mode by far. There is a varied pace to the gameplay and a level of strategy that just doesn't exist in dominion.
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