It seems to take ages to farm up for items anyway. If I go for lich bane, where does it fit in? I'm trying to rush doran's, doran's, shoes of some sort, deathcap...then lich bane before deathfire? Or after deathfire? I think I barely made it to deathfire using that build in my a 40+ minute game just now. *edit* That was in a duo lane with kogmaw to start with. That was probably a mistake since we both need farm, but versus singed seems difficult anyway -- will sion still be able to farm if he tries to ignore singed being nearly unkillable while doing poison damage and flips?