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League of Legends |OT10| Botlane Was A Mistake, It's Nothing But Thresh
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You're a horrible person.
I have a feeling it will be near impossible to play poppy in any sort of draft format for the foreseeable future.
ah thought you meant spam old poppy before she's gone.
Stone Ocean
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Trying out new champions in normals is for amateurs, we do it live baby
Stone Ocean
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for real
Nah, you'll win if you're better.
What are you building on ekko jungle these days? I love the guy but having trouble pinning down an effective build with all the AP cost increases.
My best game was actually runeglaive into rod of the ages. Another I tried runeglaive into abyssal and morellos. Didn't really like that terribly much.
PhillipCostigan
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I like playing Miss Fortune.
happy little surprise i guess. Devourer voli didn't hurt my cause
I'd say think similar to elise. I typically go Runeglaive, sorc shoes and abyssal as my only offensive items. 90% of the time I'll go runeglaive>deadmans if they have any amount of ad but there just wasn't much reason to here
I wouldn't take my word as gospel but if you want some examples you can look at my op.gg since I play him more often than not. Ekko is cool bc you can build just about anything on him and be pretty effective, I just wouldn't recommend too much ap
Stone Ocean
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Something something AD TF
Tizoc
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He only built 1 AD item though!
Cool. Thanks for the thoughts. He does share a lot of similarities with Elise. I usually build runeglaive, frozen heart and rylais on her as a core build. Maybe I'll try that on ekko. Deadmans plate sounds pretty good too though.
I do think I was building too much AP on him last couple games. Last game I literally got blown up by kat before I could finish mashing my ultimate.
Also I learned that morg binding prevents the ult. Morg is pretty potent against ekko.
Eh without slow stacking (or even with) I don't think rylai's would be that great. Ekko's kit is basically one giant slow. Pants Are Dragon recommends liandry's on him if you want more ideas for damage. I've never built it personally but I'm sure its fine.
I actually love frozen heart on him because cdr is great but I don't build it every game since its not stupid gold efficient like it used to be
Sr Kitsune
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im confused, is this a real rito thing or just some crap someone at reddit made up
i'm guessing made up cos some of these ideas are kind of terrible
lux specially sounds like a joke
Stone Ocean
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Zyra being a jungler would be fucking asinine
all stars skin is up: http://www.lolesports.com/es_AR/all-star/skin-vote
voting site is a mess, why is everything so damn huge -__-
voting site is a mess, why is everything so damn huge -__-
It's either a leak or made up.
Yeah. I'm hard pressed to find good cdr for AP champs these days. Morello is not as good as it was.
I usually like building a couple damage items on my junglers so maybe I'll try a runeglaive into liandrys then tank.
yea that's what i'm asking, u silly
imo it's made up, going back on xerath's rework just sounds like crazytalk
i voted koreans and froggen
ori vs anivia
gimme
I know what my guess is
I'm so glad I haven't seen a quinn yet. That shit looks brutal
Stone Ocean
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Fire - Pantheon, Karthus, LeBlanc, Lulu, Kennen - Marin, Meteos, Faker, DLift, Madlife
Ice - Alistar, Amumu, Anivia, TF, Nidalee - Koro, Clearlove, Froggen, Rekkles, Kasing
I wanna see mid lane go full tryhard. And Diana better win
Ice - Alistar, Amumu, Anivia, TF, Nidalee - Koro, Clearlove, Froggen, Rekkles, Kasing
I wanna see mid lane go full tryhard. And Diana better win
Ghost is Bad
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mid naut :^)
EzekelRAGE
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This one sticks out. Some rioter commented at around patch 5.22 or 5.21 about buffing Syndra's passive. They mentioned making the bonus damage true damage.
So this is true or made up with a peppering of stuff that was known. I'm leaning towards the latter.
If anyone wants to add me, my lol is BeastRAGE. Down for normals or arams. Dont us any voice things though.
Does the neogaf LoL thing still work in the op?
Ghost is Bad
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doubt itll be true dmg. probably will end up with a random cdr passive
EzekelRAGE
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Looking back on it, they actually released the change to PBE. http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/08/820-pbe-update.html#balance
I think a passive on q that lowered the cd on it if it hits a target would be better. But that passive is on other champs as well.
Hope they look at Xerath's passive. His seems like a case where they made his mana costs high to make the passive seem better.
Ghost is Bad
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hoon in vici, mata OUT
ayyy lmao
ayyy lmao
Mostmanlyman
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What thing, that chatroom? Or the mumble?
not really, syndra q has a 4s cd at all ranks so making it lower would just be a huge mana drain and would mean she has to deal less dmg, build tear, something like that.
syndra just needs more fun upgrades for her passive, similar to what viktor got. i've posted some suggestions before, might look for the post later since we're talking mids, but basically new mechanics = good.
so like, maybe upgraded e gives u a speed buff when u hit someone with ur qe combo, or maybe w'ign a ball corrupts it and makes it so that it creates a small slowing zone when it lands and you can extend that zone by e'ing it, or whatever.
just fun stuff that makes her more fun, more cdr is just blegh
xerath like lux and ziggs and ori has a passive that forces him to get into auto range so that he has to take risks in order to be most effective, specially in lane
it's important for his balance even if it's not super exciting
Just throwing this out there, but Will of the Ancients. 80AP and 10% CDR in a nice cost effective and and build path friendly package (i.e. what you ideally want in a jungle item). The item got the same love that Gunblade did as well where it'll heal for 15% of all damage dealt, so it's sort of giving you just a bit more staying power in a fight.
And Morello's is still super cost effective, among the tops for gold return in an AP item in the game even the S6 change.
Oh, and if you want to try something truly insane...Zeke's Harbinger if you happen to have a fed ADC on your team and you're own support isn't picking it up. If you have even a modest amount of AP as a jungler (~200AP) then once the item procs it'll provide a total of 90AP. You and your ADC will tear shit up.
Mister Negative
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I hope they don't change Cass, I really like how she is right now. I don't play her much but when I do get to play her I think she's really fun. There are very few champions in the game that basically use a spell like an auto attack.
Prob the spreadsheet. Ya it should still work.
EzekelRAGE
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Meant is the spreadsheet up to date.
I was thinking more about getting more balls out to set up for her ult with the suggestion. Maybe making the balls last 1s longer on the ground if they hit a champ?
I understand that but the passive still sux. -_-
i agree with this, wota is a pretty strong mid-lategame item on spammy aoe mids like syndra and probably good on ori too cos she gets resistances from her e passive. there are reasons why u dont build it every game (mainly that tanking dmg with spellvamp is not something most mids care about doing) but i really like it as a snowball item cos it lets you not have to base after killing someone.
but tbh you should be 35% cdr from runes and athenes so i dunno why you would ever need to buy two cdr items
I liked Zeke's before these changes but don't most adcs get too close to 100% crit now for it to be super useful late?
Also, why has cass not blown up with that keystone? Seems like she'd really benefit from it
Wonderboy91
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Where do you get guides for this game these days? Solomid seems super outdated.
Stone Ocean
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Lolking, perhaps? I haven't used guides in a long time now.
EzekelRAGE
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Depends on the champion on the solomid website I guess. Was looking at Ryze guide yesterday and it was recently updated. Maybe try redmercy on youtube? He seems to be knowledgeable and he has tips and stuff.
I mainly go to probuilds just for an overview and a decent build for a top laner, runes, masteries. They track how the pro players build.
Is LoLPro still around/updated?
i'm guessing lolking, tho i dont think i've used a guide in ages
u can ask around here for tips/info if u want and also some really good tools for me are
lolwiki - always forget the url, i just google lolwiki syndra or lolwiki wota or whatever and find the info i need
champion.gg - you can search the champion and quickly get an item build/skill path for them
yeah i think i had suggested something similar to that
i think it was that like each maxed out spell raised the ball duration for like .5s and finally at lvl 16 you get the ability to use a 9 ball ult (or something like that)
not sure if i like my ult idea, but having longer lasting balls is nice since it might help you get multi-ball e's and stuff
yeah, it's not very interesting, but at least for how he works right now, i find it's kind of ok
the way he looks and the way his passive works, would kinda be cool if his q was like more mana cost the more you charge it up to a max that gets applied as extra dmg. this in exchange for a longer q cooldown.
maybe something interesting for his passive is that his autos place a mark on targets and if he hits a spell on that target he procs the mark for extra dmg and % mana
i kind of like the idea of him being a tear user, i always felt like xerath should be a long cooldown mage, so athenes/morellos feels less suiting for him imo, at least from a visuals/balance perspective for me
Hmmm. Food for thought. Going to have to look at the price of all those and start to think about it. Ekko is just too damn fun to play to put down. And he is really good as a jungler still imo. He just seems largely forgotten lately. I've never liked him as a straight tank though. He has to do SOME damage to be effective. At least in the middle of the pool elo I play at.
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