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[BreezyLimbo]

hmm in the short time I played illaoi

she's my 3rd most 'played' champion(That is, mastery points) behind Nasus and Swain

 

[Repgnar]

Another thing we could have done in Mumble is a: "Let's hop in and hear what the teams are saying after that play"

There's a delay you greenhorn. I think the biggest thing would be someone available to run the stream if someone can't consistently do it on Fridays. Normally there's enough people to get two teams going... usually. And judging by the comments we have enough Phreaks, Kobes, and Demans. I can not believe it.

 

[Fallen_Hero]

hmm in the short time I played illaoi

she's my 3rd most 'played' champion(That is, mastery points) behind Nasus and Swain

Someone told me in the lobby that you played Illaoi so I picked it from you just in case you were super good with her. I respect my opponents.

 

[kayos90]

Someone told me in the lobby that you played Illaoi so I picked it from you just in case you were super good with her. I respect my opponents.

I'll beat your Illaoi with my Kayle.

 

[Calvero]

What a fun start to 2017

 

[killatopak]

Wow this thread.

 

[jerd]

That thunderlords change is huge. Really gonna hurt a few champs. Definitely the way it should function though

 

[MrCookiepants]

Wow, so Zyra plants can't proc thunderlords anymore? Sucks for all those degenerate Zyra players out there. :^)

I think the adc thing is overblown. It's not about adc being weak, it's about colossus being the most broken thing ever and the jungle being imbalanced. Adc just happens to be the priority target for the abusers.

Colossus is just like wtf were they thinking. It should never exist in any form. Poppy knocks me into to my turret, 1 shots me, picks up her shield on the way out and is sill full health. Disgusting.

 

[Newt]

ADC in 2k16 lol.

 

[Envelope]

ADC in 2k16 lol.

it says victory but shows a red x on your promos?

 

[Ghost is Bad]

league client in 2k17 lul

 

[EzekelRAGE]

lol

What are the meta mids neway?

 

[Orochinagis]

Karma Q, full AP

 

[jerd]

They're already looking to mini rework ASol? That's unfortunate he's a unique case of high skill cap in a not overloaded kit

 

[BreezyLimbo]

They're already looking to mini rework ASol? That's unfortunate he's a unique case of high skill cap in a not overloaded kit

lame

I'm all for more unique champions that aren't played as much.

like swain

 

[Orochinagis]

They're already looking to mini rework ASol? That's unfortunate he's a unique case of high skill cap in a not overloaded kit

You mean keeping his W alive ? his kit is pretty weird since none of his skills have some sort of synergy

 

[drawkcaB]

Wait. What?

Oh, I was just imagining a funny scenario where a player would leave lane and you'd write "kys" thinking you're looking out for your teammates, thinking you're being a nice guy because you thought it meant "keep yourself safe".

I'm such a cynic of internet culture that despite being an internet old fart I immediately knew that kys meant kill yourself first time I saw it.

They're already looking to mini rework ASol? That's unfortunate he's a unique case of high skill cap in a not overloaded kit

I'm not surprised they're looking at a rework, although I never thought it would come up so quickly. Riot has had an issue for the past few years of making champions with too-high skill floors and it's lead to some aggravating balance issues between low elo and competitive play. It's fine for champions to require significant time investment and skill to bring out their kit, but the opposite, that's it's ok for champions to be complete garbage in a low skilled players hands, is not.

 

[Kenai]

I didn't think ASol was particularly hard to play. Hs kit's synergy is poor for sure, but honestly what is particularly complicated about it vs other champs? I figured they would be more concerned with Azir or maybe Kindred.

 

[drawkcaB]

I didn't think ASol was particularly hard to play. Hs kit's synergy is poor for sure, but honestly what is particularly complicated about it vs other champs? I figured they would be more concerned with Azir or maybe Kindred.

I dunno. My own experience whenever ASol is in my games is that the team that has him will lose. Mid players generally don't have the positioning skill necessary to maximize his passive damage come late game. But I'm Cellophane III so, meh.

I'm sure they've been working on Azir for some time now.

 

[Newt]

Played against another youtuber, Redmercy. He actually played pretty well, but unfortunately his Jhin itemized well for the meta 6 months ago.

This will be my 3rd promo. All I ask is that I don't have to play with Yasuo jungle, or a Yasuo support.

 

[Peanut Butter]

This will be my 3rd promo. All I ask is that I don't have to play with Yasuo jungle, or a Yasuo support, or a Rengar

FTFY

 

[Newt]

FTFY

Good catch.

 

[Orochinagis]

I dunno. My own experience whenever ASol is in my games is that the team that has him will lose. Mid players generally don't have the positioning skill necessary to maximize his passive damage come late game. But I'm Cellophane III so, meh.

I'm sure they've been working on Azir for some time now.

A simple stun on him when Sol is doing his W leaves him useless , like totally useles, his AA is crap, his Q is super slow and his E works only in non combat situations.

Sol cant hide on brushes and have zero escape in combat

 

[Calvero]

I don't understand the people saying that Aurlion Sol's kit has no synergy

 

[Kenai]

I dunno. My own experience whenever ASol is in my games is that the team that has him will lose. Mid players generally don't have the positioning skill necessary to maximize his passive damage come late game. But I'm Cellophane III so, meh.

I'm sure they've been working on Azir for some time now.

I'm not particularly skilled (struggled to (barely) get Gold 5 and haven't played much yet this season due to technical issues) but his his stars 'replacing" his basic auto attacks or the spammable nukes of other mages seemed to work out against melee champs and his his stun + travel, while weird, let him gank in some pretty interesting ways for a mage. I fully admit to not seeing very many good ASols, but I could say that about a lot of champions at my elo.

I don't mind them working on his kit, but I thought his star mechanic was the good thing about him. His ult for example is incredibly boring. Lining up his stun with his travel thing was awkward too due to the timing of the different skills.

But I dunno. If it ends up better as a result that's fine too.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

one S away from rank 7 nami. then i can pretend I'm good at support

 

[jerd]

I didn't think ASol was particularly hard to play. Hs kit's synergy is poor for sure, but honestly what is particularly complicated about it vs other champs? I figured they would be more concerned with Azir or maybe Kindred.

He had no difficult mechanics but was definitely hard to play. That was the beauty of it. You can say the same thing about tf he's got one skill shot in his kit but is pretty tough to play well

 

[Newt]

one S away from rank 7 nami. then i can pretend I'm good at support

Lmao, first post after all that shit back there.

You're an awesome mod, I love you.

Who was Opiate again?

He had no difficult mechanics but was definitely hard to play. That was the beauty of it. You can say the same thing about tf he's got one skill shot in his kit but is pretty tough to play well

I wouldn't say he's easy but he's far from the most difficult. It's so easy to just waveclear and push out the enemy in the early game.

 

[Sr Kitsune]

Let's brighten this place a bit.

 

[jerd]

Lmao, first post after all that shit back there.

You're an awesome mod, I love you.

Who was Opiate again?

I wouldn't say he's easy but he's far from the most difficult. It's so easy to just waveclear and push out the enemy in the early game.

I somehow missed all of that holy shit what a ride.. "Euthanizing a flamer" and the Shyamalanian twist were definitely highlights. Bummer it didn't work out but I'll have to give the vods a watch sometime

 

[Newt]

I somehow missed all of that holy shit what a ride.. "Euthanizing a flamer" and the Shyamalanian twist were definitely highlights. Bummer it didn't work out but I'll have to give the vods a watch sometime

Definitely give the VODs a watch.

Honestly, I would say the thing was a success overall.

We'll hold another inhouse on Friday. It would be cool if Costy shows up and streams it (It will be held earlier than the games on Sunday), but even if Costy doesn't show, I'll make sure the teams are balanced.

 

[Peanut Butter]

The inhouse should be blind pick

 

[Newt]

The inhouse should be blind pick

I'll make game 3 of 3 blind pick.

 

[Type2]

I'll make game 3 of 3 blind pick.

Blind pick is shit. With even teams the target bans won't be so bad.

 

[Newt]

Blind pick is shit. With even teams the target bans won't be so bad.

He wants to play Rengar, I want to play ADC Ziggs. Everyone benefits...

Spoiler

Except everyone other than us.

How about this, we'll do a vote after the second game, see what people want.

 

[Calvero]

Just let him play rengar

 

[Peanut Butter]

Who said I was trying to play Rengar? There's a super sleeper OP jungler that I want to bust out, but I want it to be a surprise during the loading screen.

 

[Type2]

He wants to play Rengar, I want to play ADC Ziggs. Everyone benefits...

Spoiler

Except everyone other than us.

How about this, we'll do a vote after the second game, see what people want.

I mean the Cait or adc ziggs ban phase is legit. Especially if there's a big skill gap between adcs.
I'm sure with balanced teams people will actually ban ops or champs based on the first games results rather than resorting to only target banning.
I'd let Rengar through any day over certain champs I know can be played compentantly on the enemy team.

 

[Newt]

Fair enough, we'll see what happens.

 

[Tizoc]

So ADCs only job right now is to take down towers? :V

 

[SenorArdilla]

Objectives > Kills

But sometimes you need kills to get objectives.

 

[Calvero]

Ziggs just needs to not die and then first item powerspike all over the map

 

[Leezard]

I haven't played in like 2 weeks.

How common is bot Ziggs right now?

 

[Newt]

Not very common.

 

[Nekofrog]

i am spamming the crap out of it on one of my smurfs

 

[Newt]

I'm spamming it on my main, but I've hardly seen it on the other team when I'm on Cait or Twitch.

 

[Leezard]

All right, I see.

 

[Envelope]

just don't ban the lee singer if i'm playing inhouse :^)

 

[Stone Ocean]

I like how people on reddit are like "why don't people just pick Ziggs counters bot"

Yeah lemme just pull my midlane skills and play champions I have no familiarity with to possibly counter a flex pick, that will work.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I'll be down for inhouse friday if I'm still here and not goin off for work.


Ziggs bot works/builds just like ziggs mid?