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League of Legends |OT5| Premade Bot
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Mister Negative
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you ever have one of those games that you just feel bad for winning
like we threw maybe five times but the other team never took advantage of it. the game went on 20 minutes longer than it had to. it was awful. Oh well. Putting together a small streak, up to 81 LP and getting around 18 per win. Back to Silver 3 by the end of the weekend hopefully.
like we threw maybe five times but the other team never took advantage of it. the game went on 20 minutes longer than it had to. it was awful. Oh well. Putting together a small streak, up to 81 LP and getting around 18 per win. Back to Silver 3 by the end of the weekend hopefully.
I bet he is. Guess a western pro needs to pick him and tear it up on stream before noone dares to pick him around here... a bit sad.
That extra 20% attack speed boost at rank 1 for Vicious Strikes that no one felt like talking about. 40% AS for 1 level point, and a Ragnarok that has its cool down reduced by auto attacks?
BROOOOOOOOOOOO
I had an Olaf in TT get shit on in lane and then suddenly decide that he can 3v1 after a few items (Hydra, notably). Olaf's "eventual" state is pretty ridiculous.
AdventChild
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Silver 1, +5 LP gains -4LP loses, WTF man, ill never reach Gold with that shit.
Well... ill just wait for S4, since theyll erase that annoying system.
Well... ill just wait for S4, since theyll erase that annoying system.
g00d night sweet bind
olaf's been picked in nacl a bunch, hydra is nice cuz dats the top lane life and also his e now scales off ad and his w is kinda obscene, l33 sin levels of early atspd for 6 (!) seconds with one point in it
he iz still olaf tho
i think it's real interesting that he gets more squishy when he pops ult
olaf's been picked in nacl a bunch, hydra is nice cuz dats the top lane life and also his e now scales off ad and his w is kinda obscene, l33 sin levels of early atspd for 6 (!) seconds with one point in it
he iz still olaf tho
i think it's real interesting that he gets more squishy when he pops ult
Well. Just vsed a shyvana who took all of mid and top's farm, got to level 16 while everyone else was 12 and soloed baron with Botrk and wriggles.
Ulted into my entire team and killed everyone at around 26minutes in.
I even got perfect ganks off early game and got the first 6 kills for my team before the 15minute mark.
I've never felt so violated in my life.
Ulted into my entire team and killed everyone at around 26minutes in.
I even got perfect ganks off early game and got the first 6 kills for my team before the 15minute mark.
I've never felt so violated in my life.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Guys pls
Crab Milk Mickey
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Completely agree on this. Any player who wants to hone his skills with any given champion or practice with specific goals in mind does not possess the tools necessary to make this type of training practical in any shape or form. For a genre as daunting as MOBA's
(revolting term aside)
Granted, several other multiplayer-oriented genres suffer from the exact same problems; RTS-games (even Starcraft II initially) and fighting games (Street Fighter & its ilk) are generally hardcore if you want them to be, yet usually they lack even basic functionality such as replays. It's only somewhat improved very recently. Now imagine if League of Legends or DOTA 2 had thorough tutorials akin to those seen in Skullgirls covering various core mechanics / principles, or better yet... Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution. The developers documented damn near everything and VF4: Evo even tells the player where they went wrong. The benchmark for a proper in-game education system.
For genres as complex as the above examples, this really should be a top priority for companies (with ample resources) if they wish to draw in more players or create more accessibility without sacrificing depth.
Chiming in to add that literally every champion can be "competitive" within the confines of solo queue. Some demand a lot of overall knowledge or expertise to overcome their restricted purpose (Poppy die-hards spring to mind), whereas others are merely a victim of undeserved perception issues (Trundle, Karma, Lucian, etc.) as pointed out, with or without obscene numbers in their kits.
There are also a select number of champions that require a certain style or certain champions to fall out of favor in order for their strengths to truly shine, but virtually any champion can make it to Diamond if you put work into it. Having fun going through the latter is also important.
Let's ignore the fact that solo queue is a cesspool, a breeding ground for terrible mindsets and the worst way to play a time-intensive team game with a steep requirement for co-ordination.
Diprosalic
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does anyone actually play her? i never see her in streams or in my elo.
She's pretty op in the right hands.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Can someone fill me in on this whole Olaf business, by the way? Just a general rundown on runes & masteries, skill priority and so forth. I'm curious now that his rework is wrapped up.
Orianna's the try-hard sweetheart. Quite common for a while now, in other words.
I came across her twice on the PBE where she was played as support. Probably the same player, but I wasn't really paying attention.
On the live realm she's definitely taken a hit in popularity.
it seems more like you'll be able to gank whichever lane you want.
Seems like there's a lot of variety in jungling now. Counter jungling feels very rewarding now.
Wolf Akela
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Yep, although early counterjungling (eg camp at other enemy buff) is way too dangerous now since warding totems are the usual pickup by solo laners.
Too expensive and gives way too many useless stats for laning. Wriggles cost 1800g but the only lane stats it gives are 20 armor and 25aspd.
No kidding. Even ARAM is terrible. Had an Ashe whining at me for not locking down their entire team (Yi Fiora ect) as Malokai. "That's why you're Bronze" Yep, ignore my higher damage output and higher kills per death despite building almost completely tanky and the fact that she plus her worthless TF friend couldn't land their stun ever.
I mean, even if doing stuff significantly different would have helped (it wouldn't have) why would I bother listening to a complete asshole of a person like that?
PhillipCostigan
Member
Is bind having withdrawal symptoms or something?
I feel like this is a cry for help.
I feel like this is a cry for help.
Wolf Akela
Member
I was surprised when I saw all of my mines hitting for full damage against blue. I didn't know Ziggs' E got buffed to remove the damage reduction on non-champions, and that in included monsters too.
QoL change to Q, bigger W, bigger E, double minion damage for R...
THANKS RIOT
QoL change to Q, bigger W, bigger E, double minion damage for R...
THANKS RIOT
KiwiLannister
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Did I just... have amazing teammates?
I played Jax top and they picked a Teemo against me. Told our Nasus to gank early. He does, we get a kill, but I still struggle to win lane from there. Meanwhile our Brand and Jinx are completely snowballing with Nasus's help. I'm not feeding or anything (I think I was about 0-2 or something) but I was behind in cs and getting outplayed.
So instead of them telling me "stop feeding ffs" and raging, every death I get "chin up, you'll be great late game" "don't worry about it".
So refreshing to have good teammates. Makes up for all the games where you get people being dicks.
EDIT: and Syndra is fun
I played Jax top and they picked a Teemo against me. Told our Nasus to gank early. He does, we get a kill, but I still struggle to win lane from there. Meanwhile our Brand and Jinx are completely snowballing with Nasus's help. I'm not feeding or anything (I think I was about 0-2 or something) but I was behind in cs and getting outplayed.
So instead of them telling me "stop feeding ffs" and raging, every death I get "chin up, you'll be great late game" "don't worry about it".
So refreshing to have good teammates. Makes up for all the games where you get people being dicks.
EDIT: and Syndra is fun
prodystopian
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I've been playing Orianna for the first time this week. I really like her, but she is tough to get right.
Got my 2nd penta ever last night. Thanks again doge!
I've noticed that too. Been like that for awhile though. It really drives me nuts. Nothing worse than trying to E->auto a slow to get that kill and it comes out a Q power chord. There must be a hidden delay on the passive.
The good shyvanas are so scary.
Been tryin' to say. He's secret OP now.
Crab Milk Mickey
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Nah. They also made it so you don't reach level 3 anymore after blue buff -> red buff if you want to gank a lane as soon as possible.
I don't see it happening. None of the jungle items have particularly appealing stats for laning.
You can still pull off counter-jungling with relative ease, though I'm personally less inclined to do so on PBE beyond snatching their red at level 1 or fighting them head-on as Trundle after clearing my own buff (seeing how everyone opens up with blue -> wight -> wolves). The XP and gold changes make it so the enemy doesn't really fall behind as much when he gets his camps stolen, so the only time I've seen the enemy jungler have 2 (or more) levels less than me is when you outdo him in every way. This means pulling off better ganks, acquiring more farm, slaying more dragons, killing the jungler himself -and- taking some of his camps. That's a lot of work compared to how easy it is to create a noticeable setback for the opposing jungler (and keep him there) on Live servers.
I like all these changes. Especially the no level 3 after double buffs. It will give the laners a little more room to play and reduce the necessity of a quick ganking jungler.
As much fun as it is to completely shut down an opposing jungler, it's not that fun to be the one shut down with no way to come back.
PhillipCostigan
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I went blue, wolves, wraiths and red on PBE when trying Nasus the other day. Only hit level 3 after I killed red.
Wolf Akela
Member
They intend to alleviate some early jungler pressure.
Getting to Lv3 requires 2 buffs and a camp. It's up to you which camp you'll take. It's still a better idea to go buff->buff->camp to avoid getting anything stolen.
Getting to Lv3 requires 2 buffs and a camp. It's up to you which camp you'll take. It's still a better idea to go buff->buff->camp to avoid getting anything stolen.
I really looks like they are trying to keep the jungler in the jungle longer early game. Prevent the early ganks and the necessity of playing the early gank junglers to stay competitive. Also adding the ward totem is going to dissuade early ganks. I like that tbh. It will minimize an early gank from snowballing a lane. However I suspect there will be some level 2 ganks in coordinated games.
PhillipCostigan
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I just don't like the changes they#re making to jungling full stop. Making it more passive is pretty boring, and the extra gold you get from items is minuscule, especially in comparison to supports. I'd be surprised if supports don't end up with more gold than junglers in a lot of games.
Wolf Akela
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It depends on the jungler. IIRC I hit 1000 extra gold from Wriggles on Yi by the 25min mark.
It looks to me like it's not going to stop ganking junglers from ganking but what it will do is stop the level 3 jungler from snowballing a level 2 lane. Ganks will have to be more strategic and junglers that don't have the kit for the early gank might actually be a little more effective.
Stone Ocean
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Nothing wrong with early aggression, but level 3 ganks are fucking retarded. It was sort of fine when ganking junglers actually had to make a choice for ganking - which usually made their next clears slower for grabbing CC - instead of just smiteless into WELL I HAVE ALL MY BASIC ABILITIES NOW and everyone with some mediocre form of CC can cheese out kills as soon as they get both buffs.
And it's not about the items, having an extra camp and sustain on Machete items is meant to let you keep farming the jungle non-stop instead of backing while a camp respawns. Don't forget ambient gold is getting increased too.
The intention was never to give jungler gold a boost as massive as supports.
And it's not about the items, having an extra camp and sustain on Machete items is meant to let you keep farming the jungle non-stop instead of backing while a camp respawns. Don't forget ambient gold is getting increased too.
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