PhillipCostigan
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Nah, 650 spell range is the same as a 630 auto range.
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Nah, 650 spell range is the same as a 630 auto range.
Imperfected
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Most abilities have their origination point set as the dead center of the champion's model, whereas autoattacks are ranged from the edge of the model. As a result, you basically get to add the radius of your champion's ground circle to their AA range, but not to (most) spell ranges.
PhillipCostigan
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Aye, it's 100 range, sorry. Don't know where I was getting 20 from.
Mister Wilhelm
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I will personally refund that $10 to the first lol player that changes his name to XxShotaFan420xX.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Hopefully your ADC is not geriatric and knows to get a few skillshots in when Annie's slowed.
Yeah, you're probably not gonna have a good time if you pick Lulu/Ashe into Lucian/Annie, but then you and your ADC would be morons and have bigger things to worry about.
SteveWinwood
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Nope, I'm better.
For me there's no reason to pick her. I'd learn Varus instead as he has a cc ult and decent to good matchups against every good adc right now aside from Lucian.
Stone Ocean
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She's okay but being okay in bot lane right now just isn't enough, and her worst match up is vs the strongest carry.
It's basically Season 2 all over again but with Lucian in Graves' place.
Terbinator
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Nah. It's E -> Q on repeat until you've moved to the otherside of the map killing them one by one.
I was hoping that maybe she'd be some sort of super-moneyhat adc now that there are more options for gold income.
Also, is the Manamune dead?
FallingEdge
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Jinx/Leo is the real killer combo. Tether and stun and then the traps. Run ignite on Leo and it is all over.
Terbinator
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OTOH, I had a Jinx run ignite too even when I suggested she shouldn't versus a Thresh/Trist combo. Safe to say we lost.
Wolf Akela
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=( Is it just me or does Nami Q -> Cait W not work?
eh I think we'll have to call it a disagree
I don't think the nerfs made her any more nuanced, just made her worse and made her feel clunky as hell.
Terbinator
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You can trap and bubble someone, yes, if that's what you mean?
I'm more partial to Jinx/Nami. People know to watch the bubble but never expect the speed.
Wolf Akela
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Other way around. Nami lands bubble, put trap underneath. I thought it was gonna trigger the trap after the bubble ends but no. We tried many times in one match. I ended up just putting a trap slightly behind the enemy to cutoff the obvious escape path.
weird. I was sure I did that combo many times but I dunno now
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Dreams-Visions
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I suppose it's just a matter of team comps. With our lineup...and with his lack of damage output, we could simply ignore him and blow up the 2 glass cannons in Kha and Brand. So thats what we did. It took a long time to kill Mundo to be sure...but he would die eventually. He had no real peeling power for his glass cannons, and he didn't have the damage output to force anyone to respect him.
That's why I didn't like his build. I had the same problem earlier in the day with a Shen on my team in a 3v3. It's just not good enough in 3v3 to be a pure tank Shen with 100 base damage at 30 minutes. You get ignored, then blown up after the real threats are terminated. Generally speaking, I don't think pure tank works in 3v3 right now. Gotta bring some offense to the table.
Yeah fuck Lucian. And Jinx to a lesser extent.
I think Ashe is pretty good, but Varus outclasses her. She's so strong at level one. I love cheesing squishy supports like Sona with Ashe and Annie/Leona with their level one stun. Just wait in the enemy bot lane bush and wait for a face check to stun-passive-w-auto and then win the lane!
Dreams-Visions
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I'm not sure if plane-jane DoT carries are really all that viable in general anymore. At higher levels, anyway. Anything and everything will be viable at bronze-gold levels anyway so I suppose it's a moot point for most of us.
Just standing still and right-clicking just doesn't seem like enough.
Dreams-Visions
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someone's being very, very silly.
That was humor. Other golems find that to be appropriately funny.
BurnOutBrighter
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Just got my ass handed to me by Xerath support. Holy crap I have got to try that out. He built Athene's and Morello's and just spammed, and there's no hiding behind minions.
Dreams-Visions
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ugh.
Terbinator
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I'm pretty sure you can do it. Maybe it's just the delay between her trap being put down and activating being too long between the bubble activating and bursting?
What's stopping a Lucian from doing that to ANY AP mid? Or a bruiser?
usually burst damage is the deterrent.
Rosenskjold
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That feeling when you have great synergy as support with your adc (truth be told, the opposing team actually went duo mid, so I roamed back and forth from mid and bot), The adc then writes to me afterwards for another game, and turns out adc is Silver 1, I'm bronze 2, and he's like "Oh you deserve much higher rank than that" ... <3
sounds hot
Rosenskjold
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You should have seen me giving first blood in mid, then going straight to bot afterwards and give another kill, it was pretty intense
It's pretty gud. There's not much anyone can do about that range, Morello's is extremely cost efficient and has a pretty useful passive (depending on who the support is/how highly the ADC prioritized lifesteal), you get some free armor from his passive, a fairly reliable stun, and ridiculous burst for a support at 6. Only problem is that his harass almost always ends in the minions waves getting pushed. Just have to be careful about that. Max W first to ensure a steady stream of harass and that you'll be able to get a stun off at max range when you need to.
is this the famous roaming you were talking about in your previous postYou should have seen me giving first blood in mid, then going straight to bot afterwards and give another kill, it was pretty intense
also overall yea, gotta love a good adc. they come really far in between but sometimes you get one of these batshit crazy dravens that just win lanes by sheer overpowering manlihood that just make you happy they chose to make you their wives
Rosenskjold
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Indeed, it was the first adventure of my famous roaming
And when you meet adc who farm well and just rape their lane, you just add them and cross fingers that they liked your supporting play
Stone Ocean
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Way more effective range and actual burst. Most skillshot AP mid CC skills range around 800 units upwards and they do way more damage if you actually hit them because they have skills to follow through, Lulu has two damage skills that don't even scale that well, she's not killing any squishies with EQ and will probably die in the process.
Stone Ocean
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Yep. You got clamped and you'll have to deal with that shit until you get gold.
The real fun begins when those 5 and 4s become 2s at around 90 LP.
real pros don't get clamped babe
Imperfected
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It's back to where it was before the buff: hyper-specialized, basically only good on one or two champions. It's definitely dead as an ADC item, even building it on Ezreal these days is tantamount to a surrender if the other team notices you've done it.
You basically build it on Jayce. Maybe. Probably not, but it's still an option. No more building it on Kha'Zix (though that's less the item being worse and more spikespam no longer being the way to play Kha), Ezreal, Ashe, etc.
Damn that sucks. Oh well.
I was getting +20 for each of my wins in silver 2, but it took me four tries to get into 1.
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