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bgbball31

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And now I just don't know what to say. Finally won a game... a 4v5 where I was support Karma and my ADC Sivir never connects. At this point I am pretty much resigned to the fact that we will lose, but I go AP and our lanes all win. Somehow, I ended up with the most farm in the game (because lol Bronze) by 36, 51 more than their ADC.

But anyways, after all of those losses, I didn't exactly think this would be the way I would get a win to break the streak. But hey, feels good to be off the schneid.
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
One more champ remains...

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Type2

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Sheesh pantheon is so easy to play. Clears are smooth at all points in the game and elder lizard alone is like infinite jungle sustain. Once you get hydra you farm like a mad man while melting carries and you have his ult too.

Def picking him up after I get some more ip.
 

Achtius

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Need more MR!

lol...

I got abyssal already, even tho i really shouldn't get it on viktor.

But those shrooms, holy crap

Riot is trying to fight off Pantheon jungle.

Type2 just played an awesome pantheon jungle. I got carried the hell out of that game .I was only good for killing turrets.

But in my defense I can't AA anyone when they are out of my range and I am snared.
 

LCGeek

formerly sane
Sheesh pantheon is so easy to play. Clears are smooth at all points in the game and elder lizard alone is like infinite jungle sustain. Once you get hydra you farm like a mad man while melting carries and you have his ult too.

Def picking him up after I get some more ip.

Sounds like he is back to his old self post global nerf.
 

Arc

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Why does Riot have to do a shitty points system for currency. Just let me buy stuff with real money for a price that I understand. I have 400 RP and want the Shen skin on sale but nope I need another 87 RP and I can't get that without buying 650. So stupid. I thought games were past this crap. Even Microsoft ditched it!
 

AcridMeat

Banned
I updated my masteries and I've been really pleased with my play recently. Granted I've been playing some of my best champs but still.
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That 8/5 loss in 3s was with teammates who were 1/9 and 1/10.
I unlocked Shyvana in the last week and she's already one of my favorites now.
 

Achtius

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Why does Riot have to do a shitty points system for currency. Just let me buy stuff with real money for a price that I understand. I have 400 RP and want the Shen skin on sale but nope I need another 87 RP and I can't get that without buying 650. So stupid. I thought games were past this crap. Even Microsoft ditched it!

that's the point.
 

AcridMeat

Banned
I understand that. But its 2014. Give me a dollar value and I'll buy stuff, force me to buy your currency and I won't. It's a stupid system that works for kids without credit cards and messes with everyone else.
I agree with you, I wish they would ditch it however this is why it still exists. Game has 27 million people playing it, and sadly that's an easy way to force people to keep buying more than they need. By doing so, people see that they have some points leftover and "hey if I spend a little more it will equal this and allow me to buy two!"

I hope they ditch it soon but it won't until they start to lose popularity.
 
Okay guys, catch me up on League. What do i need to know about season 4?

Supports and Junglers are real champions now rather than mobile piggy banks for the opposite team. Tops are made of beef, mids are made of win, and the meta is slowly leaning toward hyper-carry ADCs again with the realization that "soft" carry ADCs don't actually do much in the resulting meta. (Basically, everyone except the mid has gotten tankier due to top being a tank lane and junglers/supports having actual income, so a non-hyper carry like Ezreal just sort of wet noodles around fights not getting much done.)

The jungle's actually been opened up pretty wide with some of the item changes, even if nobody's really acting like it. There are a lot of AP junglers (even beyond the semi-"rational" ones like Amumu, Fiddlesticks, and Cho'Gath) that are now viable, expect to see the pool open up in the coming weeks as the trend-setters adjust to it.

Mid's back to being a weird mix of assassins (Leblanc, Zed) and zone-control APs (Gragas, Orianna... no Frostbird yet), with the odd siege specialist like Nidalee popping in to say "Hello" now and then.

The fact that supports build actual items early and often has been painful for the squishier supports (who are too vulnerable to all-ins from aggressive supports like Annie and Thresh), but has really opened the door to supports who previously were borderline due to their item dependency, like Leona. A lot of non-traditional supports are also probably viable, though the long history of troll-picking supports makes it hard to tell who's got serious, good ideas and who's just being an Edward.
 

Type2

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Second pantheon game ended up going even better. 22-4-11. I still played my objective game despite the mouth watering quadras and closed out the game without giving them a chance to come back. Had great mandrops all game too.
 
Supports who were barely touched or got outright buffed see most play (Annie, Leona, Thresh, Lulu, Nami). Supports still not getting AP items. It doesn't help that traditional supports who would have scaled well with AP (Sona, Soraka, etc). got gutted.
 

Type2

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Supports who were barely touched or got outright buffed see most play (Annie, Leona, Thresh, Lulu, Nami). Supports still not getting AP items. It doesn't help that traditional supports who would have scaled well with AP (Sona, Soraka, etc). got gutted.
Well they don't gain much from ap with their gutted scaling. You still need those utility items which riot could just make more of. I'd rather be tactical in my builds and Actives as a support than deal tons of damage. Making plays and controlling vision is fun!
 
Well they don't gain much from ap with their gutted scaling. You still need those utility items which riot could just make more of. I'd rather be tactical in my builds and Actives as a support than deal tons of damage. Making plays and controlling vision is fun!
See, that's the problem for me. Riot said one of their aims was for supports to "fulfill the fantasy" of support players. Traditional supports were adjusted with the assumption that they get like half or a third of AP that carries acquire to get back to their old numbers. It doesn't happen unless the match drags long enough.

They change them so that their utility would scale, but it doesn't scale hard enough. I mean, come on, Soraka needs 600AP to get her AP-less MR shred. Where do you fit that AP next to your Sightstone and Crucible, boots and a pink slot?
 

zkylon

zkylewd
it's super dumb in that basically playing support is now same as ever except you can now afford shurelyas and mikaels

it's better, but I still don't have any meaningful build choices and I can't scale so I'm basically a cc bot instead of a ward bot now

itemization is just weak for every role except maybe mana mids
 

zkylon

zkylewd
Wait so how do supports afford these items now? And they're still building support type items or ap?

more passive gold generation, new gp10 items that give a lot of gold, new masteries (for $$$$ and exp), better assist rewards (assist streaks) and a 3 ward limit (so you can't ward everything yourself in the map) plus no more oracles.

supports get a shitload of money now, the problem is that it's always teh same build. it's boring
 
Wait so how do supports afford these items now? And they're still building support type items or ap?
Supports get new starter items that give them gold in a variety of ways (being near minion death, harassing, bonus gold for last hitting). Green/pinks limited to 3/1 per player so the support can't blow it all on wards. Passive gold is increased across the board by a very slight amount.

Supports still get non AP items.
 
I think the biggest problem in bot lane right now is defense-stat stacking Leona/Thresh being essentially invulnerable in the early game with Doran's Shield and having huge lane presence just by nature of their kits' CC. They essentially auto-win the lane if the carries are evenly matched and the enemy support isn't Annie (who has early game hard CC of her own, 625 range autos and large damage). Even if they lose lane, their kits are designed to make picks so they can still be effective.
 

Ferrio

Banned
What are the general jungle paths now?


edit: Also happy to see leona is shining.. she was always my favorite support (and first champ I bought)
 

Ferga

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Instalock riven with new skin.

Goes mid. Dies immediately to anivia once minions meet at mid.

Runs to lane, dies again.

2 deaths in less than 4 minutes.

Keeps doing it while laughing at the team for not dying with him.

Welcome to my games.
 

Newt

Member
What are the general jungle paths now?


edit: Also happy to see leona is shining.. she was always my favorite support (and first champ I bought)
Shining is an understatement. There's pretty much no reason to play any support other than her (except maybe Thresh).
 
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