Riot can make a carbon copy of Cole MacGrath from the inFamous series
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Riot can make a carbon copy of Cole MacGrath from the inFamous series
Ah, ive never played infamous. Been an Xbox guy mostly
I have a ps4 but the launch games are kinda lame.BriseFlots
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Charmed?
It does in laning.
BriseFlots
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Just ended an awful losing streak.
Why did I stop playing Trundle again?
Why did I stop playing Trundle again?
I suspect being boring as hell to play is a big reason Aatrox got dropped like a bad habit.
Dreams-Visions
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I dunno man, dueling someone who is at full health while you're tottering around 15% the entire time is pretty hilarious fun if you ask me.
KiwiLannister
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I don't consider her w to be dragon breath? Her e is her only skill shot.
You could do so much exciting stuff with a dragon in LoL, and all we get is a champ that dives a distance, presses w and e, then runs at the adc auto attacking.
Make her q a small cone shaped knock up in front of her, make her e work basically like corki's q, make her burnout a ring that is a distance around her (similar to the area where darius's q does extra damage). Now she's a lot more interesting. In dragon form her burnout applies the current e debuff, her q and e have more range, and her e applies a dot.
It would require a ton of rebalancing but now she has some decisions to make. Load a bunch of damage into her e, maybe even make her viable as an ap tank. Her ult e could even be like MF's ult, so you want to ult into a team in a good position to get off a good e.
My suggestions are absolutely terrible but currently Shyvana is really pretty boring to play, the only ability she has that is fun is her ultimate.
Diana jungle is really strong at the moment. First game I played today was just a normal but I was 25-5 at the end of it. Team was down 3-12 or so before I started getting involved post 6, but I started piling up kills and it was easy. Had a pretty short game in ranked where I was 4-1 when the other team surrendered, which sucked because I was just getting going. Been going with Spectral Wraith->Sorc Boots->Zhonyas->Void Staff + Rabadons->GA. You become a monster in teamfights and they can't really deal with you if you have zhonyas and your ga up. I'm not sure how vital Void Staff is, but assuming it's anything like Last Whisper it is basically essential late game right? Otherwise I'd buy Lich Bane.
what happened to him anyways, i forgot
KiwiLannister
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I still think that the only support who can keep up with Leona is Thresh. If Thresh is banned, whoever picked Leona will win bot. Alistar can deal with Leona in lane I guess but Leona has better teamfights by far.
I think the problem with Leona is there is very little thought to laning with her. Avoid poke, try to land your e on the adc, and that's it.
she can still do really well.
Wolf Akela
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Gets dumpstered in lane by popular picks, as she should be.
Still great afterwards. Probably better than usual because of the popularity of tanks.
Crab Milk Mickey
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Alistar and Lulu are good against Leona. Karma probably too (even if she's stronger mid or top), but to be on the safe side you'd rather put more points in the Defense tree with the latter two. For all his flaws though, the cow is still pretty great for reactive plays against an offensive support like Leona.
A god damn liability every time she's on either team. Tidings of doooom if it's a first-pick or blind pick Vayne specifically.
Dreams-Visions
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You know what? Game was hard. A very early gank from J4 gave Vayne a pair of really early kills, and J4 basically stayed bot the entire early game. That is, if he was going to gank somewhere, it was bot. Hung in there, though farming was harder than it should have been because I was jittery for some reason. Put some shit together thanks to them being greedy and some good Nocturne ganks later during the laning phase and got a lead. It was very much back and forth until we broke their backs at their bot T2 with a Cait triple kill. It was never really a contest after that, but Noc and (you guessed it) Leona played out of their minds. Also, I've never seen such an offensive Olaf build. We were concerned he'd get melted. He never really did.
Safari Cait remains undefeated. I don't know how Leona isn't hands-down the best support in the game with the gold intake buffs for supports. I don't remember the last time I lost with a Leona on the team.
In other news, gifted someone TPA Mundo (didn't know you could mystery gift skins not currently being sold) and got back Eternum Nocturne, which had been on my buy list. Today was a good day.
Ninty Legend
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Over 10 minutes for a queue? WTF, lol. Might as well just get off and get back to the studying I should've been doing...
Oh, so that's your NeoGAF name.
BriseFlots
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Imperfected
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They nerfed his early game power and a bit of an across-the-board nerf by lowering the attack speed from his passive, removing his ability to steam-roll out of the jungle and easily take towers in late game split pushes.
He's still okay, but he really was an early game dominance champion with a somewhat questionable late game (tons of damage, but even with a GA and his passive his ability to actually get it out just isn't there compared to a late game Jax, Riven, etc.). He no longer auto-wins early duels or counter-ganks, so most people would either rather go with a champion who still does (Lee Sin, Elise) or champions who power-farm to six and then explode (Vi, Wukong).
I like him, and I'm honestly surprised both he and Zac have fallen off so dramatically. I think he deserves a second look as a jungler now that "jungle carries" are a completely legit thing.
Wolf Akela
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Zac is fairly squishy nowadays. They massacred his laning by making his blobs mostly suicidal.
BriseFlots
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Aatrox just picked by JinAir Stealths!
Maybe he's still good after all
Maybe he's still good after all
Imperfected
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A bit disappointed they're running top Aatrox rather than jungle, but I suppose it's better than nothing. I just don't think there's much reason to take him top other than maybe Yasuo being always banned.
KiwiLannister
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I almost never see Lulu support at my level though. Every now and then but it's rare.
Most annie supports are trash at my elo too. None of them seem to realize that the auto range is why annie is so good, or they constantly put themselves in a position for a hook/zenith blade and get blown up.
Supports in general at my level are mostly last picks forced into it though so it's not surprising. I wish more supports started dorans shield though, it seriously changes the game in the early levels.
How did he do?
KiwiLannister
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CJ just sodomized them. Flame on Sunfire + Spectres Cowl + Tiamat + Ninja Tabi when the other top laner had Sunfire + boots + cloth armor.
Who was he playing vs aatrox?
Shyvana.
It's kind of ok. If you just play a single character it is possible that it gets taken by another player if it is popular, so you should probably have at least 2-3 that you play. Maining a role or a couple of characters is typically ok though, yes.
Crab Milk Mickey
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To some extent, but it depends on role flexibility and the value of any given champion's strengths. Someone like Garen would be merely okay-ish for top lane (and only that lane), whereas someone like Elise would be strong in top lane, strong in mid lane against the melee assassins and strong in the jungle.
There's numerous players who made it to Diamond 1 or Challenger in Ranked maining only one role or champion so it can be done, but it requires a lot of understanding about who you're playing as (including vast match-up knowledge), as well as overall match flow in various situations. Unlike fighting games though, it's better to have a select few other champions to fall back on in case someone else picked them before you could or if your main has been banned.
In what ways would you say she counters him?
Stone Ocean
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With enough practice you can get anywhere with anything, there's tons of specialists out there that get to high levels in ranked playing a single champion that is considered bad.
That said, I don't recommend a single character per se - since it's not always that you'll get to play what you want and forcing yourself to deal with really hard match ups is often a bad idea, thee people that do this often have quite a lot of experience with the overall game - but keeping your champion pool small and mastering a handful of champions is legit and has it's pros and cons.
Tizoc
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Well i can do OK with Nunu who lat I played did Mid.
Anyways just lost a game due to an overpowered Master Yi!
He had this equipped:
Ravenous Hydra
Zephyr
Statikk Shiv
Phantom Dancer
The Bloodthirster
Boots of mobility
In that above order.
Ya know what I'll use Master Yi in this next match and try that above build. I suspect he also went jungling since he'd need looooots of money/gold to have all that on him.
Anyways just lost a game due to an overpowered Master Yi!
He had this equipped:
Ravenous Hydra
Zephyr
Statikk Shiv
Phantom Dancer
The Bloodthirster
Boots of mobility
In that above order.
Ya know what I'll use Master Yi in this next match and try that above build. I suspect he also went jungling since he'd need looooots of money/gold to have all that on him.
Autoattacks are quite easy to counter with tabis, randuins, etc. She's much tankier than him and simply does more sustained damage.
Her e is so fucking stupid, just rework it already.
Also Riot nerfed aatrox in the wrong places. His base stats are already piss poor, and his revive was the problematic thing.
simultaneously feeding and carrying until observation collapses the waveform.
Stone Ocean
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Schrödinger's marksman
If you can survive the bot lane she does fine.
KiwiLannister
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I mean as people said, it's not really ideal.
When you go into ranked at level 30, it's a draft. You get turns picking. If you're in the last spot, you probably won't have a choice where you go. So you need champions in every role. You need at least 3-5 ish so if some are banned or picked you still have options.
It is pretty normal to have a favourite position. For example I main jungle, and I can play most of the popular junglers. The ones I generally pick from for a given match are Vi, Elise, Shyvana (she seems much weaker in jungle after the w nerf though, and my playstyle has changed to more gank heavy since I stopped maining her), Diana, Khazix, Lee Sin, Jarvan, Amumu. There are a few more that I'm comfortable playing in ranked but whatever.
You do need a rounded pool of champs. The positions I play the least are mid, top and adc. In mid I only really excel on one champion since I struggle at csing with ap champs.
So for positions I don't play much:
Mid - Zed (99% of the time I'm mid), Diana, Khazix, Fizz.
ADC - Tristana, Caitlyn, Sivir.
Top - Jax, Renekton, Shyvana.
Or you can just troll and play Teemo top/jungle/mid/adc/support because who cares. This isn't something you need to worry about now (I'm assuming you're still leveling up?), I basically just played Tryndamere and Jax to level 20, with a lot of Jarvan once I got runes and started jungling. When you enter ranked, being flexible is important because there are a lot of very immature players in ranked, and because if you are flexible with your champion pool, you can really help your team. For example if the enemy team has a lot of champions that are good at jumping on your marksmen, picking someone like Lee Sin who can kick them away could really be the difference between winning and losing a game.
Wolf Akela
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Yeah, I would at least get comfy with 3 roles. If your only champion gets banned or picked by someone else, or your team absolutely needs someone in X position, you need fallbacks. I wouldn't worry about it so much that early though, but I would give it serious thought once you hit Lv20 and plan to continue to Lv30 + ranked games. Give Draft Mode a shot once you hit Lv20.
Done
KiwiLannister
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Low assist numbers, hardly ever going positive. Yup, that's a teemo.
I almost want to buy him for the "captain teemo on duty!"
BriseFlots
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As people said it is good to know 2-3 champs in every role. which is about 15 champs to know overall including skills builds matchups... It's really a lot of things to remember to play well actually.
As a not-so-good player my workaround to reduce the number of things to learn is to learn champs that can play in more than one line.
For example:
* a lot of toplaners can also be junglers (Wukong Trundle Shyvanna Mundo Pantheon... )
* Some supports can be played mid (and vice versa) (Karma Annie Lulu Zyra... )
* ADC can only be played adc
It sometimes means playing someone in a role that isn't its optimal role but if you have a good knowledge of the champion you will be able to make up for it. With that in mind you can focus on fewer champs and it'll make it easier to get better.
Then when you become better you'll be able to extend your champ pool more easily.
Everyone gave you a good answer to this question. Except that while you are leveling up, it's not bad to play a single champ at all. I played Irelia almost every single game from level 5 till 25 or so. You get real familiar with their kit and start learning the overall game rather than getting hung up on a champion's mechanics. You can also start learning about effective itemization and start to recognize what other champs are and what they do - again without worrying about learning to play your champ. Once you get around 25 then the "meta" starts taking shape where you have champions that are better in different roles and you start playing with a jungler, a top lane, a bursty mid and a bot lane with a support.
Wolf Akela
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Tried Zed. Really not for me. IDK what I'm doing. I just ult, mash buttons then ult out. Only won early then stalemated against Vlad. It was nice seeing 400+ AD though.
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