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[Stone Ocean]

Mobafire isn't as bad as people make out. It's a lot easier to use than Lolpro and the guides tend to be written a lot better.

I generally check probuilds for items then Mobafire for a better understanding of how a given champ does/doesn't work.

Yeah, the guides are well formatted and organized, but they're often written by Aluminum 5 players that have no idea of what they're building or high level players that just do their own shit and it won't work for pretty much anyone else, and those are often the top rated guides.

I mean the top rated Nasus build right now tells you to build Zeke's Herald for fuck's sake. Mobafire is clean and easy to read, but if you want to actually learn the game it will give you nothing but bad habits.

 

[Nekofrog]

Yeah, the guides are well formatted and organized, but they're often written by Aluminum 5 players that have no idea of what they're building or high level players that just do their shit , and those are often the top rated guides.

I mean the top rated Nasus build right now tells you to build Zeke's Herald for fuck's sake. Mobafire is clean and easy to read, but if you want to actually learn the game it will give you nothing but bad habits.

wow, nasus 0/18/12 with zeke's herald

such doge
very life steal

 

[Tizoc]

Sorry I was making a joke

I'm surprised at how firm moba fire's clutches are on the new player community. Where did you learn about mobafire?

Lolpro (pro player guides)
Lolking (a more recent kind of mobafire but higher quality because you can see their rating)
Probuilds (see what pros have been building in the recent games - most up to date but requires some thinking)

I googled 'Garen build' and that was the first entry =P
Now that I think about it, I really SHOULD switch around Garen's equipment set, I need to get him something that'll help him get a good armor or health item as early as possible.

 

[Stone Ocean]

I need to get him something that'll help him get a good armor or health item as early as possible.

Randuins is your friend.

Sunfire if you're feeling ballsy.

 

[Wolf Akela]

Feral Flare. Eh. It's roughly +1 magic damage against champs everytime you kill a big monster.

You know... it sounds like a cheaper but better Wits End without the shred.

Damnit I wanna try this now.

 

[Edwardo]

There was a pre-show on Thursday 30 mins prior to the start, but not on Friday, so it's anyone's guess for today.

XDG vs Cloud9 HyperX
Counter Logic Gaming vs Curse
Team Dignitas vs Team SoloMid
Team Coast vs Evil Genuises

NA Challenger Series 2 Play-In Begins Today
Cloud9 HyperX Tempest vs The Blue Pill
Team 8 vs Kings of Tilt

Week 7 Power Rankings

NA LCS Week 7 Preview

The Recap: EU LCS Week 7

Big Changes for Curse - SaintVicious and Zekent

Morgana - Fallen From Mid to Bot

We Are Champions - Cerritos High School (Winter 2013 High School Star League champions)

Cloud 9 - Quest to be the Best


How to Watch
Twitch
YouTube
Azubu

Remember to check out the LCS Season 4 thread for discussion. Let's try to keep this thread spoiler free.

 

[Boken]

holy shit queues at 1:30am on OCE are trash


i tried elder scrolls online too

 

[Edwardo]

i tried elder scrolls online too

It didn't run good on my laptop. Made me sad.

 

[Boken]

It didn't run good on my laptop. Made me sad.

it saved u

 

[garath]

Damn. I just noticed. Why am I in Vayne's Blightlords?? What happened to Wukong's Paragons? Riot.. You have failed me.

 

[Edwardo]

Has anyone tried Dawngate?

 

[Terbinator]

Yeah, the guides are well formatted and organized, but they're often written by Aluminum 5 players that have no idea of what they're building or high level players that just do their own shit and it won't work for pretty much anyone else, and those are often the top rated guides.

I mean the top rated Nasus build right now tells you to build Zeke's Herald for fuck's sake. Mobafire is clean and easy to read, but if you want to actually learn the game it will give you nothing but bad habits.

>Playing Nasus.

Obviously you only check the Plat/diamond verified ones

 

[Wolf Akela]

Has anyone tried Dawngate?

I tried it. It's okay. Honestly don't seeing it lasting long since it has this weird similar feeling to Twisted Treeline while also not being that familiar.

Infinite Crisis is totally LoL Dominion with actual P2W options but it's Marvel.

There's always HotS, which is definitely different enough and is backed by Blizzard IP.

IDK about Strife.

 

[Stone Ocean]

>Playing Nasus.

Obviously you only check the Plat/diamond verified ones

It was a plat guide lol

 

[Edwardo]

I tried it. It's okay. Honestly don't seeing it lasting long since it has this weird similar feeling to Twisted Treeline while also not being that familiar.

Infinite Crisis is totally LoL Dominion with actual P2W options but it's Marvel.

There's always HotS, which is definitely different enough and is backed by Blizzard IP.

IDK about Strife.

Thanks, ya I just got a beta key and wanted to hear some impressions on it.

 

[Boken]

Has anyone tried Dawngate?

dawngate has interesting characters. i like it when ppl shoot coins

but holy fucking shit is taht game snowbally
not only do your passive gold generators get shut down when youre behind but theres this "mastery" that gives people large amounts bonus gold and exp on champion kill

snowball ahoyyyy

 

[Terbinator]

It was a plat guide lol

Must be legit then!

Spoiler

> Playing Nasus.

 

[drawkcaB]

Not sure I why Feral Fire deals magic damage. Seems like Bloodrazor all over again.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Not sure I why Feral Fire deals magic damage. Seems like Bloodrazor all over again.

Because it scales better Vs monsters since they don't have MR, I guess.

 

[Boken]

Not sure I why Feral Fire deals magic damage. Seems like Bloodrazor all over again.

cos its fire, duh

 

[Terbinator]

cos its fire, duh

.

 

[Stone Ocean]

But how can fire be magical when Elder Lizard burns for true damage? Hmm? HMM?

 

[Leezard]

Because Lizard fire is true damage.

 

[Boken]

dunno why there is so much kassadin QQ and OP calling when he has such similiar play patterns to leblanc who has an even better early game :/

 

[SteveWinwood]

wraith king is like best hero in dota tho

 

[Edwardo]

wraith king is like best hero in dota tho

Ya King Leoric was a pretty swell guy tho

 

[Boken]

leezard is dat u on bjerg stream

 

[Leezard]

leezard is dat u on bjerg stream

I'm not playing right now so I don't think so.

I watch it right now and wow, I did not think someone nicked that. I'm Euler, without the accents.

 

[garath]

Played some Strife this morning. Got through the painful tutorial (seriously, it's a MOBA.. why do I have to go through that) and mandatory bot game and won the first PvP. Played that Assassin Cassio type character. I had a rough laning phase against 2 ranged champs but once I started roaming and getting kills I snowballed from there. She does the deeps.

Fun enough game. I prefer LoL

I'd be down for playing with some GAF guys on it. I guess since I played my PvP match I now have full closed beta access.

 

[brian!]

holy shit i just realized bjergsen is rainman

[IMG]http://fireden.net/4chan/images.4chan.org//vg/src/1365052553824.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img.youtube.com/vi/_AmCbgw9FGs/maxresdefault.jpg[/IMG]

regi feeling guilty after all these years picks rainman's reincarnation...............................
look don't be surprised if you see TSM Balls after Dyrus retires...

 

[drawkcaB]

I just tried the new Wriggle's/Feral Fire on PBE. For those interested, upon upgrading Feral Fire deals 100 + (3 per large monster kill after upgrading) to monsters and minions, 33% of that vs. champions. The on-hit effect heal scales about +1 per large monster kill. One of the undocumented effects of Feral Fire is that is dramatically increases the cast range of the ward active. Wouldn't be surprised if the cast range is 200% of normal.

I don't see this as being the fix to running melee ADCs in the jungle (Tryn, Yi, Fiora, etc.) but it could be good on otherwise heavy AA champions like Trundle and Xin Zhao. In certain situations, might even be good on jungle tank champions like Rammus and Nautilus* who don't have the easiest time itemizing damage.

*Gonna test out some bruiser Nautilus builds I've been dreaming up of soon. Probably suck balls, but whatever.

 

[Boken]

Uh oh some new looking map textures have been leaked on the pbe

Now they might just be old files that accidentally got shipped and will never eventuate into anything but it looks like we're finally gonna get an SR VU or at least a retexture

It kinda looks like a pastel paint Disneyish forest

 

[Ocho]

Oh man I've been dreaming of a VU since I upgraded my computer (almost two years ago). I hope this happens, the map is pretty terrible.

 

[Tizoc]

Randuins is your friend.

Sunfire if you're feeling ballsy.

Nah I like sunfire on Garen TBH, even if it is a little damage, it can help clear minions faster, so there's that at least.
...but I'll prob. save it for last now since Garen needs something that gives him buffs all around.

If only work net wasn't so lame I could read up on the weapons right now and formulate a set for him to use when i get back home =/

 

[Boken]

Take sunfire, garens damage is pitiful as it is already.

Sunfire is an early game item, randuins is for later game when the attack slow meaningfully reduces adc dmg

 

[SteveWinwood]

sunfire is like a bad radiance right

 

[DeadNames]

Looks like concept art to me.

Spoiler

and dota 2

Riot did say SR was due for a VU by the end of Q1.

 

[Boken]

sunfire is like a bad radiance right

Ur a bad radiance

Looks like concept art to me.

Spoiler

and dota 2

Riot did say SR was due for a VU by the end of Q1.

It does look like concept art due to lines - but there's actual texture maps associated with the same map so that's weird

I've played enough Dota to tell you that dota doesn't look like that

 

[Archie]

Uh oh some new looking map textures have been leaked on the pbe

Now they might just be old files that accidentally got shipped and will never eventuate into anything but it looks like we're finally gonna get an SR VU or at least a retexture

It kinda looks like a pastel paint Disneyish forest

Dota made its map much brighter recently.

LoL is trying to copy Dota's old map style.

Riot behind the times yet again.

 

[Edwardo]

sunfire is like a bad radiance right

Less dmg but more defensive stats.

 

[Boken]

Dota brightens map to compete with lol

Lol darkens map to compete with dota

Round N round we go never ending infinity engine

 

[Tizoc]

Frozen Mallet looks like it'd be a good equipment for Garen, if not for the fact that his main damage tools are the sword dunk and spinny move.

That reminds me: One of the equipment unique to ranged champs is one that fires 3 shots. My brother uses it with Ashe and its an item he always goes for now. What're the disadvantages of using that equipment?

 

[Boken]

Its a noob trap

It's bad because the whole point of adc is to be optimised single target damage dealers whereas with ruunans hurricane you are wasting gold and slot efficiency just to hit ancillary targets


The only reason you'd build frozen mallet on garen is if your team really needs the slow

 

[Tizoc]

Tell me your fav. or most horrific Shyvana stories GAF.
I am tempted to try her out although her Ulti is gonna take time to get used to.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Tell me your fav. or most horrific Shyvana stories GAF.
I am tempted to try her out although her Ulti is gonna take time to get used to.

What's there to get used to? You aim, click and go RAWR

 

[Edwardo]

click and go RAWR

That's my favorite part.

 

[DeadNames]

Man, Orianna is broken as hell..... Nobody plays her so no one knows.

Tons of utility and tons of damage.

 

[Mothman91]

Tell me your fav. or most horrific Shyvana stories GAF.
I am tempted to try her out although her Ulti is gonna take time to get used to.

You farm on your little island or jungle and farm until mid game comes without showing to gank and carry your sorry ass team.

 

[dimb]

holy shit i just realized bjergsen is rainman

regi feeling guilty after all these years picks rainman's reincarnation...............................
look don't be surprised if you see TSM Balls after Dyrus retires...

this is a really good post.

also sometimes zeke's is an excellent pick up.

 

[Edwardo]

Tell me your fav. or most horrific Shyvana stories GAF.
I am tempted to try her out although her Ulti is gonna take time to get used to.

Laught at your enemies as they try to fight your with your fire up