Dreams-Visions
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and Rengar.
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and Rengar.
Stone Ocean
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I'm not sure, basically everyone can get a Lightbringer for free.
Terbinator
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I'm not sure how they could have had a worse implementation.
Dreams-Visions
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oh right. dat trinket.
Stone Ocean
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What do you mean? The trinket system sounds excellent
Terbinator
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Stone Ocean
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The reveal trinket sounds like Quinn's W.
Also I'm down with Pink wards being more like DOTA2 in which they aren't just super versions of green wards.
Also I'm down with Pink wards being more like DOTA2 in which they aren't just super versions of green wards.
Wolf Akela
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Lens seems pretty strong depending on cooldown and strength relative to CV.
Free sweeper? RIP Akali.
Free sweeper? RIP Akali.
Yeah, the tactical stealth guys are going to have a tough time. Kha'zix and Akali, as well as twitch trying to escape by stealth will be a thing of the past.
Gonna be really bad for lane stealth champs. Probably going to help jungle stealth champs.
Stone Ocean
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Oh yeah, totally forgot about Akali.
Shaco is pretty much dead for good now.
Shaco is pretty much dead for good now.
Wolf Akela
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Problem with team limit is that you'll have arguments where wards should go. Some people can selfishly hog all the wards for their lane. You can also have situations where a teammate instantly deletes the ward you just placed.
I just realized cheaper pinks is another lowblow to Akali. :/
Stone Ocean
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Well yeah, if each teammate can only have 3 wards on the map you'll only have 15 wards at most on the map.
And really, who needs that many wards lol
That's true. I guess they are giving everyone almost free vision so people who never ward look how powerful it is and are encouraged to do so now, but I wonder if they will.
dam that jim cornette shoot
Stone Ocean
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This isn't really much about encouraging bad players to ward as it is to remove some of the suffocating power vision control gives.
He's great against anything melee/AD, gets fucked by anything ranged. Much sustain, such debuffs.
Oh okay, so it is how I originally thought. I misread something else thinking there would be a smaller overall team limit, thus creating conflict on who puts wards where.
You can't delete other people's wards. You have a limit of three. If you place another that would be the fourth, your first one will go away.
All good changes. Now watch some big mouth dumbasses (some pros included probably) making Riot never implement them and keep the support role an absolute chore.
"This sucks Riot I want my support to keep the whole map warded by using all of his money on wards while I buy real items and have actual fun playing the videogame, I don't want to be concerned about vision."
"This sucks Riot I want my support to keep the whole map warded by using all of his money on wards while I buy real items and have actual fun playing the videogame, I don't want to be concerned about vision."
Eh, ranged tops have seem to fallen out of favor. I only see kennen mid. Jayce is nonexistent ATM.
Terbinator
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The trinket system is kinda cool i guess, but with the role stealth champs play (read: Eve) i don't see how they aren't just stronger on the back of this? Eve is already a tax on the other team, this might just make people think 'fuck it, the only time we can see her she's destroying our ward'.
Edit: In fact i'm not even sure what the purpose of vision wards are now? "permanent unless destroyed" - well of course they're going to be taken out if the other team can see them.
Edit: In fact i'm not even sure what the purpose of vision wards are now? "permanent unless destroyed" - well of course they're going to be taken out if the other team can see them.
I hope the trinket change will make for more interesting level 1 fights. Have a couple people take Lens and the others take Ward. Ward defensively and Lens invade, or ward enemy blue and Lens invade red. If you get a fight soon enough, hopefully you got a kill or dropped a deep ward, you have time to b and change to desired lane trinket.
BurnOutBrighter
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Vision wards will still clear enemy vision. When you have a vision ward up you can be certain that the enemy can't see that area.
BurnOutBrighter
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It's an individual limit, not a team limit. You won't be able to delete another person's ward.
Stone Ocean
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Yeah, and they'll most likely be cheaper than stealth wards.
Stone Ocean
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Well GG, we got Phantom Lancer now, it was fun while it lasted.
Guess they wanted a permanent rotating lane pusher. I'd rather go AD Malz for that. If I'm AP, I'm going to be a burst mage.
Problem was that Malz was behind from the start and Vayne was already splitpushing on the team.
Pretty useless build for a Malz that's behind then. Who was he laning against?
I wonder what the duration on Illusion's will be? Two second knockup into Ult seems like a great initiate. Then sac the illusions for team healing as the fight goes on. Sacros with a Malph/Amumu/Leona would be devastating.
Schmattakopf
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Sounds like a beautiful desert themed illusion support mage. Thank you based riot...I will gladly take a godmode ult to accompany my new raise in S4. Just can't wait to obelisk some fools bot lane!
I feel like I'm the only one completely thrilled with the direction the game is going in. Hehe.
I feel like I'm the only one completely thrilled with the direction the game is going in. Hehe.
Stone Ocean
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Oooh
Well Teemo is now fucking useless but who fucking cares.
I don't see anything about oracles in there. Guess they are removing it? Makes sense if everyone gets a free on demand sweeper. Vision will definitely be a LOT more interesting this time around. Junglers will perma get sweepers and ward placement will have to get a lot more creative.
PhillipCostigan
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he sounds like some sort of odd, AP tank with supporting abilities.
I'm not sure where the hell he's supposed to fit in.
I'll have to try it, but idk about this one.
This is a CertainlyT champ btw.
Could be this dude who was leaked ages ago?
Also with those skins leaked and Sivir rework coming too, I guess it's a Shurima Desert patch like the Freljord one.
I'm not sure where the hell he's supposed to fit in.
I'll have to try it, but idk about this one.
This is a CertainlyT champ btw.
Could be this dude who was leaked ages ago?
Also with those skins leaked and Sivir rework coming too, I guess it's a Shurima Desert patch like the Freljord one.
Sweeper evidently does not reveal champions, only wards and "vision items" like teemo shrooms, etc.
I don't know about that. Depending on the cooldowns I could see Lens being better, particularly for counterjungling and counterganking. I find it odd you can swap them out at any time for free, I'd expect there's some sort of buyback cooldown for the trinkets, like, can't swap for 5 minutes.
Yeah, I'm having hard time determining whether he's an AP tank or tanky AP (e.g. Swain). He's seems light on CC to be an actual tank.
I don't know about that. Depending on the cooldowns I could see Lens being better, particularly for counterjungling and counterganking. I find it odd you can swap them out at any time for free, I'd expect there's some sort of buyback cooldown for the trinkets, like, can't swap for 5 minutes.
PhillipCostigan said:
Yeah, I'm having hard time determining whether he's an AP tank or tanky AP (e.g. Swain). He's seems light on CC to be an actual tank.
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