Stone Ocean
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I feel that the 4.5 patch helped Fiora indirectly quite a bit.
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League of Legends |OT6| My AP Mid Can't Be This Cute
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PhillipCostigan
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said it before
feral flare fiora is pretty legit.
feral flare fiora is pretty legit.
Stone Ocean
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Not just jungle, but mid as well.
Fatman is but a memory, new feast mastery combined with her passive are a lot more valuable now that LS quints got nerfed - and she makes more use of a full AD page anyways -, cheaper Fury boots, mid-tier armor items got a bit weaker, etc.
PhillipCostigan
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What HP seals are people buying?
Flat or scaling?
I kinda play anywhere but in ranked it'll be support.
Flat or scaling?
I kinda play anywhere but in ranked it'll be support.
Flat. I like my runes for the early game. Scaling makes me feel like every game I play has to last forever.
Support flat. Jungle scaling. At least from my impressions so far.
Trying a half flat hp, half flat armor seal setup for bot lane.
PhillipCostigan
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Turns out I already had scaling health, so I just bought flat.
Cheers folks.
Cheers folks.
Stone Ocean
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Scaling health vs Flat health is basically asking yourself how vulnerable you are while laning.
Squishies will probably want to take flat health against rougher laners, but if you can have an easy time for the first 6 levels or so scaling will be better.
Squishies will probably want to take flat health against rougher laners, but if you can have an easy time for the first 6 levels or so scaling will be better.
Stone Ocean
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Basically pretend his ult is a summoner spell.
Are you dying? Use it
Are you going to die soon if you don't use it? Use it
Can you initiate on someone out of position by running at them and flipping their ass? Use it
So with a lot of people running minus armor yellows these days, if you take say an Armor pen red/AD quint page on Fiora and go mid, wouldn't you theoretically fucking nuke them at low levels with autos?
Tizoc
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Stone Ocean
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No armorpenrino
Full AD page, doran's start, W at level 1, jump at them the moment you hit 2, watch them blow flash, do it again at 3 or 4 and you'll probably get FB if the enemy laner underestimates you, if they don't you can just farm normally while dodging harass.
PhillipCostigan
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yeah, Fiora's level 2 is completely absurd. If you can exploit that you can win the lane handily.
Wolf Akela
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Does anyone else feel like not playing when they're on a winning streak? I'm afraid I'll break my mojo or something. 
Mister Wilhelm
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If I have a Fiora on my team, the sound of her getting first blood is music to my ears because I know top lane is over.
Imperfected said:
Never said this. That's what I was referring to.
Imperfected said:
All the other stuff you mentioned is shear power as well, extra range, more CC, etc. I read your post just fine. I was saying more complex champions should have greater variety in play patterns and roles, which encompasses more.
Because I'm not really agreeing with your ideas?
(Also, you originally disagreed with me, so please don't point at me "jumping straight to being contrary")
Finn of Ooo
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Jesus Warwick is a pain in the ass now. I practically have to buy executioners calling any time I see him on the other team.
Not necessarily a bad thing. Getting some use out of the less popular items is good for the game.
It's one of those uncommon instances where the plat+ meta catches up to the Wood 5 meta. I've played against about 10 Warwick's since S4 started. Every single one did well. Shame that his rework is going to take at least until the end of this year to come out. I'd love to pick him up in the jungle just because I think a werewolf champ is pretty sweet thematically, but I've learned two things in my jungle marathon and those are that A.) I can't play true carry junglers and B.) with a few exceptions I can't play - and dislike to play - champions with only one form of CC.
Stone Ocean
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Not if the less popular items are less popular because they are crap.
Fair enough
Imperfected
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Executioner's isn't great, but Morellonomicon is pretty good.
Stone Ocean
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Morello is super underrated. 2200 gold for 75 AP, MP5 and 20% CDR is a massive steal even if you completely ignore the passive.
My first match as Fiora!
After those 2 items I wanted to make her a Black Cleaver, just got stuck deciding on what my next item would be. Alternatively I could've gone Youmuu+Infinity Edge. 40% CRIT chance doesn't sound too bad!
Ah you're still playing blind matches?
Orochinagis
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What did I just see....
Orochinagis
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Most of the ADCs yesterday were Jinx and a random nidalee
he's a brave soul.
Wtf boken
You wouldn't see stuff like this in NA though. To me it's just a massive lapse of judgement.
I really need to fix up all my rune pages. Turns out all my jungle pages are now out of fashion. Hell, all my pages are probably bad now. I only just now figured out that swapping out my armor seals for health is a net EHP vs. physical gain for my junglers, and I even have a few like Naut and Sej that would really like that extra starting health.
Yeah, NA never dare to try new stuff. ;P
That's Gambit for you though, they will do all the lapses in judgement they can. Unproven champion in the playoffs? Sure!
"Darien need to stop feeding" - from the stream
I've been slowly but surely changing my pages. It's not like the old ones are BAD but more optimal ones are coming out. I recently ran an attack speed page for adc bot lane and loved it. Swapped my blues for CDR on most of my jungle pages (don't own enough hp/lvl yet to change out the armor) and loved it for Rengar and Yi.
Was a nice change.
Terbinator
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Eh? Zyra does quite well out of the support items as you can go either/or, really. FQC is epic for her kit as wella s the AP or Talisman is, well, Talisman.
Definitely give Nocturne a go with the CDR runes too if you haven't yet. Shaving off 18 seconds after the first use of his ultimate is huge. Rengar and Xin scale so well off of CDR it's great on them too. I personally run 3 flat MR glyphs, 6 flat CDR glyphs and pick-up 5% CDR in the masteries for 10% starting CDR. I can't bring myself to get more than that even though it might be good just because I never want to go over the CDR cap...but then again it's uncommon my games last long enough for that to be an issue, I dunno, maybe I should go full CDR glyphs.
jerd said:
What now? She didn't even suck before the changes to the spellthief line. Ever since the changes she's been sporting a win rate above 50% on lolking and lolbuilder. Her plants and AA range let her abuse spellthief better than other supports.
DeadNames said:
Yeah, I feel the same way. I hope Riot gets around to addressing the issue of the tank junglers clearing slowly soon. If they can do that, man, jungle is going to be in great shape.
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