Stone Ocean
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They'll probably make it even better once he gets a VU
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League of Legends |OT6| My AP Mid Can't Be This Cute
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isn't Fizz a late-game terror? Every time I play him he just keeps getting better and better as the game progresses. Have yet to play him in Summoner Rift though
Stone Ocean
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His effectiveness falls as the game goes on since people will start getting items to deal with his burst, specially with the new Exhaust
More of a Mid Game terror where you can assasinate whole teams by yourself if fed. At late game you probably can still nuke the carry but the rest of the team likely has some MR and high HP and will melt you if you don't GTFO.
Stone Ocean
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
PhillipCostigan
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Cheers for the Ryze tips folks. Will probably start practising him tomorrow.
It's not that bad anymore with the nerfs.
Here Newt (and other people that play AD): http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/408222#runes
That guy is one of the better AD carry players. The returns on Lifesteal quints are just too low after the changes.
That guy is one of the better AD carry players. The returns on Lifesteal quints are just too low after the changes.
kiunchbb
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So much anger, Rex feeling the frustration of wriggle nerf.
was asleep but thanks for the replies peeps, specially dat soda lizzy picture lol
mega-quote incoming
like i agree you won't ever get all champions to be balanced and they will always be tiers and whatever, but jungle seems specially unbalnaced towards the fotm chase. i wonder what could be done to remedy that, so that people can play whatever they want without hamstringing their team
but if someone in my team picks like fiora mid i wouldn't really mind, cos i know you can make almost anything work there. it won't be nearly as dumb as lebonk or ziggs or nidalee but it's not complete doom and i can just pick like a more pokey top to compensate and still save our team comp :I
like as soon as elder lizard junglers became viable all ancient golem junglers disappeared. same with feral flare and elder lizard, tho feral flare is kinda dumb at the moment so that might get turned around
also it's weird you'd capitalize my name
also agree on everything you've said, the issue is that i think jungling has been like this for as long as i've known it existed (maybe not entirely true, i don't fully remember), while top and support have had different less restrictive metas.
the old cliche of having your nasus farm each little wraith with q while they're 4 manning mid is just something infinite scaling does to people, and i don't like an item that promotes playing like that, even if people should know better. so yea i kinda would like adding a cap to it, that'd be pretty much exactly what i want
other than that i just don't like warwick or shyvanna or master yi or whatever, so if it were up to me i'll just remove it and be done with it
felt really weird for heal to "counter" ignite when it's always been the other way around
it's very silly how much rito messed up new heal lol
mega-quote incoming
well i'm not diamond or anything but generally win more than i lose. nowadays not so much cos i haven't been playing enough ranked and have gotten pretty rusty but i do ok.
like i agree you won't ever get all champions to be balanced and they will always be tiers and whatever, but jungle seems specially unbalnaced towards the fotm chase. i wonder what could be done to remedy that, so that people can play whatever they want without hamstringing their team
i would say choosing a weak mid is actually not that bad. like i don't play diamond, just watch streams and whatever but i've seen bjergsen or voyboy or whatever run like fiora mid or ap alistar or things like that. it's not really a punishing lane if you play your champion right. and they weren't terribly successful or anything but they had a plan and stuck with it and it worked sometimes, sometimes it didn't.
but if someone in my team picks like fiora mid i wouldn't really mind, cos i know you can make almost anything work there. it won't be nearly as dumb as lebonk or ziggs or nidalee but it's not complete doom and i can just pick like a more pokey top to compensate and still save our team comp :I
well what's weird is that it seems like every change rito makes doesn't really make more junglers be viable, just shifts the meta somewhere else and all the junglers move there
like as soon as elder lizard junglers became viable all ancient golem junglers disappeared. same with feral flare and elder lizard, tho feral flare is kinda dumb at the moment so that might get turned around
also it's weird you'd capitalize my name
so much wrong about that picture, i love it
also agree on everything you've said, the issue is that i think jungling has been like this for as long as i've known it existed (maybe not entirely true, i don't fully remember), while top and support have had different less restrictive metas.
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hmm i personally don't like anything about feral flare, i don't like the junglers it enables and i don't like the idea of carry junglers in the sense of junglers just winning the game thru raw stats. i don't really agree that if a guy goes unpunished and gets to play pve he's allowed to hyperscale, but i don't really like super late game champions like ryze and vayne and jax in the first place so you know, adding hyperscaling to another lane, that i'm not a big fan of
the old cliche of having your nasus farm each little wraith with q while they're 4 manning mid is just something infinite scaling does to people, and i don't like an item that promotes playing like that, even if people should know better. so yea i kinda would like adding a cap to it, that'd be pretty much exactly what i want
other than that i just don't like warwick or shyvanna or master yi or whatever, so if it were up to me i'll just remove it and be done with it
want my syndra skin
sweet
felt really weird for heal to "counter" ignite when it's always been the other way around
it's very silly how much rito messed up new heal lol
I love Evelyn.
Doran's blade offers 3hp per hit. Feast returns 3hp on minion kill. If I'm running 4.5% LS and I have 80 AD, that's 3.6hp. Before the nerfs, a hit would grant you 4.8hp. Not a huge change for me.
I'll try his armour page though, and see if I like it.
Emphasis on with the nerfs. It should never have made it to Live. Even as a selfish summoner spell it was better than Barrier. Everyone jumped on heal ASAP it was so blatant. Even down in the depths of Wood 5 the people I play against immediately switched, no need for trickle down knowledge from higher ranks. Hell, I faced triple heal before I ever saw it on a stream.
ZkYLOn said:well what's weird is that it seems like every change rito makes doesn't really make more junglers be viable, just shifts the meta somewhere else and all the junglers move there
like as soon as elder lizard junglers became viable all ancient golem junglers disappeared. same with feral flare and elder lizard, tho feral flare is kinda dumb at the moment so that might get turned around
also it's weird you'd capitalize my name
Yeah, hence why I said Riot's stated goal is to broaden the jungle, not that they have broadened it. Two entirely different things once you throw in Riot's crack balance team in the mix.
Stone Ocean
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I ditched LS quints the moment the patch hit
I'm still torn between changing my third AS quint though, I like it way too much
I'm still torn between changing my third AS quint though, I like it way too much
It's kind of a big deal with what you're missing out on. Attack speed and armor quints are both so strong that it's hard to see how three and a half HP per hit could really make up for it. Like...you almost might have more sustain just from running attack speed quints.
maybe it's more of a jungle layout thing or something and it can't be just solved with items and champions nerfs/buffs
Doublelift also runs two armor quints, 1 attack speed quint, ad marks, flat health seals and mr glyphs.
He's pretty good too.
Tizoc
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Mmmm nothing I like more than a well fed Gangplank.
Me and Poppy rocked the top lane and I scored a dozen kills against Yi and Jinx. Bot was Sona and Pantheon but they did good too.
The biggest threat was Katarina, bitch would wipe out my HP like it was NOTHING. I died twice in this game and only to her, but thankfully we managed to win the game by the end
Me and Poppy rocked the top lane and I scored a dozen kills against Yi and Jinx. Bot was Sona and Pantheon but they did good too.
The biggest threat was Katarina, bitch would wipe out my HP like it was NOTHING. I died twice in this game and only to her, but thankfully we managed to win the game by the end
Remember' it isn't because LS quints returns are too low, its that AS quints returns are higher than LS quints now
That high AS at lv 1 makes your attack animation so much smoother and it just gives you an easier time CSing and harassing it's like night and day
I'll probably get an additional page with two armour Quints and one LS. I don't really play ADCs that need much attspd.
Idiot jungler doesn't gank gg wp.
BurnOutBrighter
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IMO Heal should only be healing. No status cleansing, no move speed, nothing but pure HP.
Cleanse should be an anti CC spell and should get a MS boost because that actually makes sense.
Barrier should counter burst and as well as a temporary shield, should give you armour and MR while the shield is active.
Cleanse should be an anti CC spell and should get a MS boost because that actually makes sense.
Barrier should counter burst and as well as a temporary shield, should give you armour and MR while the shield is active.
lifesteal is definitely hit pretty hard but
it is also one of the few options for a bad matchup/you don't really know how to trade correctly, giving you 1-2 hp regen per auto early on. you can also run armor in this situation tho
even before the rune changes lifesteal wasn't really the most effective in its slot
atspd blues are interesting
the only guy I run lifesteal on now is jax and I get feast also
it is also one of the few options for a bad matchup/you don't really know how to trade correctly, giving you 1-2 hp regen per auto early on. you can also run armor in this situation tho
even before the rune changes lifesteal wasn't really the most effective in its slot
atspd blues are interesting
the only guy I run lifesteal on now is jax and I get feast also
Wolf Akela
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This is awful. There are way too many smurfs running around at low levels. No Lv6-10 buys wards, and harasses with AAs well while CSing. There's also so much trashtalking. I make it a point to stomp those specific trashtalkers. I feel bad for all the legit newcomers.
Mister Wilhelm
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I'd only take LS quints at this point if I was playing Draven due to how much his Q does early on.
On a side note, I just played Ryze top a few times and oh my lord, is that shit broken.
Just came back after a riven went 16-2 and we were down 22-9. The Kayle who fed Riven just started pushing top and everyone ignored her since who cares, we're winning. That gave us much needed gold. Swain and me as morg just started rooting everyone and since there was absolutely no MR, we just tore them to shreds in team fights. Was glorious. The riven just gave up after the throws
Maybe you should duo with Rex. If you're both doing great other than the diamond promo, your powers combined will make you get past it (or combine for double the terrible games if that's how your passive works).
Unless his Q is an exception (which I doubt) the bonus damage on Q shouldn't provide lifesteal.
Edit: Apparently it does apply lifesteal. Pretty surprised by that, actually.
Piglet was basically using these runes when SKT won champions winters
Wonder if I should stick with ls since MF's q is on hit too.
Wolf Akela
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This is bull. I was 14/3 Vayne. Their Yi was 22/something. I can still 1v1 him, but get out barely alive. We could still win the game but for reasons unknown our Volibear decided to dance at the fountain for the last 20 mins. It's a shame since their Jinx was pretty much a non-issue and I had to somehow avoid getting blown up by the rest (Yi, Zyra, Vlad, Amumu).
Pretty much every enhanced physical attack uses Lifesteal. Kha Q doesn't since it's not really an enhanced auto attack. Enhanced magic auto-attack is a hit or miss with Spellvamp though (eg Jax W/R works, Teemo E doesnt)
Pretty much every enhanced physical attack uses Lifesteal. Kha Q doesn't since it's not really an enhanced auto attack. Enhanced magic auto-attack is a hit or miss with Spellvamp though (eg Jax W/R works, Teemo E doesnt)
Maybe they think it's fun.
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