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League of Legends |OT6| My AP Mid Can't Be This Cute
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I think it will be an ADC too. Technically wasn't there a Ryze skin for s1? I know I've seen Triumphant Ryze or something before.
If Lucian is still popular by the time the skin is made I think he might get it. Jinx would be a good choice too if she got buffed/picked more since they are both really popular. The championship/victorious skins usually go to champs with high pick or ban rates at that time right? i know Janna/Riven were real popular in S2, same with Elise/Thresh in S3.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Nooo Mikael's is my oh shit button!
Mister Negative
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aside from maokai and lucian those world cup skins look like hot garbage
God, carrying as Morg support is just so good. Last 2 games just dominated. One game had a first pick blitz who's only purpose late game was hook me so i can ult everyone. We won a 4v5 because we went 11-0 before i died saving top. Game went 20 minutes long because jungle kayle is strong.
Doran's Blade...lifesteal? Am I totally nuts or is this going to make my noob 4-dorans Rengar better? :S *edit* Doing the math I guess it's similar. But having a little extra lifesteal does sound nice. *edit* Oh, but they're nerfing other lifesteal, so it will probably all even out or be worse, depending on how hydra ends up.
Mister Negative
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I'm gonna hop on board the Trist bandwagon early. If they treat her right she might be super strong.
I sorta went on a brief Trist kick a few weeks ago and had a blast.
I sorta went on a brief Trist kick a few weeks ago and had a blast.
I hope it was your enemies who had the blast. =D
Tristana is fun, and a happy, cheerful champion is cool to play.
Mister Negative
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once you hit the later levels it's like playing cait except you can't miss your abilities and your escape is less annoying to use
I do get to choose my champ right?
Wolf Akela
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Only the ones in rotation.
Annie is the most recommended one for beginners during this week's rotation.
i like that adc is getting changed round a lot but also worried about how weird it's gonna be for a while before it all gets figured out again
i'd like to think it's gonna make ashe good again, but even if you make mikaels a worse buy overall, people are still probably gonna buy it vs an ashe most of the time, so I dunno how much that really helps
I think the really big thing is that ezreal is going to be pure garbage, at least going on the changes being talked about so far, unless for some reason it makes blue build ez good again i dunno
also it's sort of nerfing quinn too, and fuck that
i'd like to think it's gonna make ashe good again, but even if you make mikaels a worse buy overall, people are still probably gonna buy it vs an ashe most of the time, so I dunno how much that really helps
I think the really big thing is that ezreal is going to be pure garbage, at least going on the changes being talked about so far, unless for some reason it makes blue build ez good again i dunno
also it's sort of nerfing quinn too, and fuck that
Mister Negative
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I don't think there's much that can be done for ashe besides a rework or something.
Why do you think these changes will impact Ezreal in particular so negatively?
The rotation is changing every week?
Ashe doesn't need that much help. The item changes might be enough, actually. The way the community goes on about her you'd never think she's been at a consistent ~50% win rate across all ranks for well over a year. Off-loading the utility requirements onto the ADC has a tremendous value given the right composition. Looking forward to playing her in my ADC marathon - currently finished 6/10 games as jinx. Graves, Twitch, Tristana, and Ashe still on the slate.
I don't want to get my hopes but with the ADC item changes there's only one outstanding item left from all the patch previews: jungle tank improvements.
I don't want to get my hopes but with the ADC item changes there's only one outstanding item left from all the patch previews: jungle tank improvements.
Yep. A new 10 every week.
Earthrune Skarner probably got the best touchup.
Also, it seems like adc itemization is getting a rebalancing soon.
http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/live-gameplay/LNKJydKU-410-411-systems-team-forecast
Doran's Blade is going to get the lifesteal back as well.
edit: I see I am quite beaten, I probably got the link from here as well. I am too tired.
Also, it seems like adc itemization is getting a rebalancing soon.
http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/live-gameplay/LNKJydKU-410-411-systems-team-forecast
Doran's Blade is going to get the lifesteal back as well.
edit: I see I am quite beaten, I probably got the link from here as well. I am too tired.
Wolf Akela
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Yes, but you can save up IP (virtual money) to unlock them, or pay with RP (real money). I recommend just buying with IP, especially the cheap ones.
AdventChild
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From Gold V 100 points to Gold V 0 points, again my skills gone.... Hate that, cos i know that its all my f* fault
Back to Garen top, Amumu jungle... almost 0 skill needed xD
Back to Garen top, Amumu jungle... almost 0 skill needed xD
i liked the original sandstone colour palette better.
sandstorm benefited the most imo:
the high contrast on the carapace, claws and stinger made the older textures show their age a lot sooner
with everything going down to 80AD I imagine that they plan on adding a pure AD item at some point. then again, maybe not - given the potential for abuse re: assassins (who after 4.10 will miss out on a 100AD item already)
Sounds like a pain in the ass :/
it is - eventually you'll settle on some you like and buy them with the ingame currency and try to master them
Ezreal is definitely just an average adc, and probably will be for the rest of his lifetime.
Quinn is already pure garbage (coming from someone who plays a lot of Quinn).
Also, played my 3rd game of diamond today duo with Rex. A Thresh dced, and game back and started arguing with the team and trash talking us. It never gets better, division really makes no difference.
The only free ADCs are Kog'Maw and Lucian -_-.
mf continues to be completely amazing. 19/4/11 last game with morg support.
adcs feel like the role to play right now, lately when playing adc i've been feeling stronger than ever, like some s2 shit or something. i reckon it being the power scale shifting in their favor what with heal, mikaels and exhaust making them a lot harder to kill. also death of leona and annie and rise of the morg/zyra/nami
nope, victorious jarvan was s1's victorious skin and they only started making championship skins at s2.
i'm thinking jinx is a good candidate as well but i don't see her fitting the victorious or championship lines so well.
i actually think aatrox could be one since he has no other skins and would look well in gold
bt is now like a defensive item or something so i bet people will just rush ie or bjork now. it's weird, i kinda like the idea but want to see it in action. sounds like it'll be pretty beast on riven and no longer built on ad assassins, if anyone was still doing that.
dorans and dagger stuff are cool, i like the idea of moving adc damage more towards attack speed as it weakens their burst and cements them even more as dpsers.
mikael's nerf is warranted but there's no way it's gonna only affect tanky supports. like trading tankiness for more mana regen hurts sona and nami too. no one needs more mana regen that what it already gives.
new support item is really cool, very excited about that
edit: apparently reading the comments seems like randuins ms slow is getting removed. pretty big nerf for randuins, dunno how i feel about that
adcs feel like the role to play right now, lately when playing adc i've been feeling stronger than ever, like some s2 shit or something. i reckon it being the power scale shifting in their favor what with heal, mikaels and exhaust making them a lot harder to kill. also death of leona and annie and rise of the morg/zyra/nami
nope, victorious jarvan was s1's victorious skin and they only started making championship skins at s2.
i'm thinking jinx is a good candidate as well but i don't see her fitting the victorious or championship lines so well.
i actually think aatrox could be one since he has no other skins and would look well in gold
hmm interesting stuff, specially on second post
bt is now like a defensive item or something so i bet people will just rush ie or bjork now. it's weird, i kinda like the idea but want to see it in action. sounds like it'll be pretty beast on riven and no longer built on ad assassins, if anyone was still doing that.
dorans and dagger stuff are cool, i like the idea of moving adc damage more towards attack speed as it weakens their burst and cements them even more as dpsers.
mikael's nerf is warranted but there's no way it's gonna only affect tanky supports. like trading tankiness for more mana regen hurts sona and nami too. no one needs more mana regen that what it already gives.
new support item is really cool, very excited about that
edit: apparently reading the comments seems like randuins ms slow is getting removed. pretty big nerf for randuins, dunno how i feel about that
Mister Negative
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I kinda wanna try to take up lux again, I was watching Link's stream the other day and he was absolutely demolishing with her.
i kinda wanna get my mid skills up to par so i can take them to ranked. The number of times I've played mid in ranked is under 10, for sure. But I've really been enjoying TF. He's super straightforward, has self-peel and mana sustain, and is pretty easy to farm with.
I've been noticing that both Pobelter and Faker (and maybe others, dunno) take scaling AP on TF. Is that more of a general mid thing or what? I understand the movespeed quints, but that kinda perplexes me. I always like having flat AP at the start of a game.
i kinda wanna get my mid skills up to par so i can take them to ranked. The number of times I've played mid in ranked is under 10, for sure. But I've really been enjoying TF. He's super straightforward, has self-peel and mana sustain, and is pretty easy to farm with.
I've been noticing that both Pobelter and Faker (and maybe others, dunno) take scaling AP on TF. Is that more of a general mid thing or what? I understand the movespeed quints, but that kinda perplexes me. I always like having flat AP at the start of a game.
are you talking about blues?
flat ap blues are useless on most mids (tf and lux are good examples of that). think about it, 60% ap ratio on lux e, that's like 6 more damage per spell, it's not gonna do anything for you.
scaling ap blues work much better cos they become useful by the time you need em. they're both 9 ap at level 6, so you're a bit weaker before level 6 but from then on you're stronger.
by level 18 scaling ap are worth about an extra amp tome. by then you have almost perma 40% cdr with athenes+blue buff so that ap is worth more than your 5% 9 ap at level 1 through 5.
level 6-18 is when mids shine, not 1-6, and you get better burst and waveclear for all those levels.
much much better!
(or use flat mr which is safer)
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also lux is kinda not great right now (0.6 ratio on her 10s cd e while ziggs has .65 on his 4s cd q is fucking insulting) but you know, yolo queue, everything works.
i actually like rushing damage on her nowadays with like double dorans into deathcap+void staff right up, no athenes.
get an early red trinket and catch people moving between lanes in mid game, play her like some sort of long range assassin.
it's my favorite way to play her these days. her dps is so bad (shitty cooldowns, shitty scaling, shitty passive) she's not really good at teamfights unless you're super fed.
you don't, it's announced on like mondays i think
Crab Milk Mickey
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Another fucking Gragas skin. They cannot be serious. Who asked for shitlocks on Alistar too, for that matter? Draven skin is amazing.
In retrospect I'm also ever more appreciative of Riot's "the Olympics doesn't have enough international appeal" excuse when asked why they didn't make new skins for that worldwide sports event.
They're stabbing you in the heart because you like the worst character design in all of League. He makes even Corki look good.
Vayne players are the prissiest little bitches in the entire community, even by sacred cow ADC standards. Following that, they almost always have the nerve to whine about everyone else when their own poor judgement got themselves killed yet again (worse than Katarinas, Leonas and Ezreals combined), usually coinciding whenever their ult is back up. R might as well be an instant-suicide button.
They're so obnoxious I went out of my way to keep a list with all the names of players that ever played Vayne, given that I usually run into the same people when queueing up for Normal Draft. That way I can ban her whenever I'm given the rights.
"The Marksmen patch"
I hate it already. I can't wait for the day where everyone realizes just how awful of a label it is.
EDIT: oh my God. --- "We plan to implement changes that will help these champions reestablish themselves as compelling markspeople to play in the current live game."
If you're interested in Lux, try Xerath and Vel'koz too for similarly poke-y champions. Both quite underrated.
PhillipCostigan
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I can't really say I'm a fan of the AD itemisation changes at all really.
I'll go into it more when I have more time, but basically I hope they do compensatory buffs for ratio driven ADCs that aren't super commonplace for various reasons, aka Quinn.
they should really stop forgetting about her at this stage.
I'll go into it more when I have more time, but basically I hope they do compensatory buffs for ratio driven ADCs that aren't super commonplace for various reasons, aka Quinn.
they should really stop forgetting about her at this stage.
PhillipCostigan
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considering most of her power in the ADC role is in the bonus AD ratios on her passive and ult execute, she really is.
but I'm not going to get into an argument with you. I have better things to do on a sunny afternoon.
LS did a coaching video for a challenger support morgana.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4VLGl9V-Fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4VLGl9V-Fs
I mean, her ratios are pretty terrible. Does the scaling matter? Sure, but increased survivability or utility would do more for her. When I think about the carries that would feel the attack damage crunch it's stuff like Caitlyn, Graves, and Draven. Because Quinn's ratios are so low she comes out ahead after changes like this because she's effected by them less than her counterparts.
Tizoc
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Just read the Bloodthirster change and I think it sounds interesting too.
Looking forward to seeing how less annoying Nidalee might be now.
PhillipCostigan
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her ratios are low, aye, but she's got 4 ratios which all scale off bonus AD, and due to her low range she doesn't get to stand there auto attacking a lot. Her gameplay revolves around her Passive -> E -> Passive combo, which is effectively a 120% bonus AD combo as well as the base damages. She also gets innate attack speed in her kit which means unless you're going for the more assassin mid build, she has a heavy reliance on building raw AD.
Caitlyn only has 2 AD ratios, one of which being total AD and she scales far better off attack speed due to her long range.
Graves I agree with (although even he only has 1 bonus AD ratio pre-6), and Draven to an extent.
Quinn gets hit super hard by these changes.
Stone Ocean
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Fuck you Obama
Fuck you aggressive supports
Fuck you bruisers
Fuck you bruisers
Fuck you bruisers
That's not true. First Cait has essentially 3 AD ratios thanks to her passive. And second while attack speed is important, AD is far, far more important because of her sieging potential. Though she scales really well with attack speed, for most of the game you'll be poking away stuff with your auto attacks and catching people with your ult so they have to back.
These changes won't hurt her too much if at all though, because she has always been a fantastic IE carry. It's just that lifesteal and the extra AD are so important in the current state of the game that she can't afford to not get BT, even with her range.
PhillipCostigan
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I was referring to her scaling better off attack speed than Quinn because of her range...
I don't think range is a predominant factor when it comes to building flat AD versus attack speed, or you'd see the short range carries that run BotRK like Vayne or Twitch. If anything, builds that favor attack speed have greater potential to kite inside a skirmish. Caitlyn's style of harass is better suited to heavy attack damage than attack speed heavy builds, which is why it'd be rare to find her building more than just a Phantom Dancer. Caitlyn has scaling AD built into her passive, her Q, and her ultimate. With Bloodthirster as less of a go to item Caitlyn's playstyle can shift back to picking up an early Infinity Edge, and players will be able to rely less on her abilities to harass and poke.
Quinn's kit isn't as tied to flat attack damage values as other champions, so baking the power of these attack damage items into secondary effects stands to open up bot lane more to her while removing some from the champions that are thriving on Bloodthirster being the only viable item.
Maybe Quinn will somehow get weaker from the changes, but these type of neccesary item overhauls shouldn't really be worrying about supporting broken kits. The idea behind these changes seem healthy on paper. Riot is looking to increase the importance of the AD carry role while opening up more build options than the flat and basic paths that currently exist for marksmen.
Quinn's kit isn't as tied to flat attack damage values as other champions, so baking the power of these attack damage items into secondary effects stands to open up bot lane more to her while removing some from the champions that are thriving on Bloodthirster being the only viable item.
Maybe Quinn will somehow get weaker from the changes, but these type of neccesary item overhauls shouldn't really be worrying about supporting broken kits. The idea behind these changes seem healthy on paper. Riot is looking to increase the importance of the AD carry role while opening up more build options than the flat and basic paths that currently exist for marksmen.
SteveWinwood
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Apparently Morello wrote out a thing about balancing recently? Is there a link to that?
I'm always up for a laugh.
It's early in the morning and confused Morello for Ghostcrawler.
Still I'd like to read it.
Speaking of, has he done anything of note since he moved over? Is he working on League or one of Riot's other things?
It's early in the morning and confused Morello for Ghostcrawler.
Still I'd like to read it.
Speaking of, has he done anything of note since he moved over? Is he working on League or one of Riot's other things?
Sigismundo
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What other things?
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