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League of Legends |OT6| My AP Mid Can't Be This Cute
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PhillipCostigan
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Penta with MF in an ARAM.
Maybe I need to play her in SR too.
Hrm.
Maybe I need to play her in SR too.
Hrm.
Do it. You almost always hit level 2 first and have already hit them 2-3 times with your Q poke by then. It's nice pretty much always having an early edge.
Herbspiceguy
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The chatroom has 2 other users, just like yesterday.
Is LoL really that unpopular amongst Euro GAF or am I doing something wrong?
Ghost is Bad
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its all about nagaf.
I was offline yesterday, there should have been one more
There are a couple of us, I usually see 5 or so people at a time in the chat room. Nagaf is definitely more popular though.
Temper your expectations on Sejuani. First few times I tried her out on PBE with Quill Coat/new SotAG I thought it was an improvement, but going back and forth from 4.10 to 4.11 PBE she actually sustains worse with Quill Coat. New SotAG is a better late game, particularly because of her bonus health damage scaling, but at the time of purchase it makes her weaker. All told she'll be where she is now.
Zac will be better, but that has more to do with the W buff than the jungle item changes. His W with some CDR behind it was already close to Amumu Despair levels of AoE damage, now it's potentially better late game. Definitely going to give him another whirl.
Maokai will see the biggest win rate increase, but like Zac it has more to do with his kit changes which on the whole are a buff. Naut buff on his passive will do fuck all.
Tizoc
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I'll miss the awesome first post in this thread =/
Sejuani was largely about the huge mid to lategame teamfighting anyways. All said, that's her major strength. Early game was survive and counter gank to keep the team from getting stomped.
Zac's W change will be a big help. I still think the largest nerf he suffered was the changes to his ult, but the damage reduction on E and blob changes really hurt his clears. The defensive jungler item isn't a huge thing since he wasn't really lacking in sustain, just clear speed.
I wonder if a malphite jungle will benefit from the new item.
Ghost is Bad
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no.
Terbinator
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Tizoc said:
Yes, particularly with the across the board mana cost reductions, although the change to R and max health % damage on W are also nice. You just have to be careful who you pick him against. Definitely not first pick material and fits best in "protect the X" comps and best paired with a high damage jungler.
The strategy is to encourage your jungler to come top early on because ganking for a Maokai top is super easy. If your jungler can get a few early kills and he's competent, he'll be able to pressure the map elsewhere the rest of the game while you simply keep your lane opponent in check.
Garath said:
Yeah, which is my point. Faster Sejuani can get to mid/late game, faster she hits her stride. New SotAG delays that. You'll probably get a chance to do it before me, but on Sej (and a few other junglers, honestly) try Quill Coat -> Tank Item (e.g. Sunfire) -> SotAG. I have a feeling that it might end up being better for the same reason that getting DeathCap as your first and only item is a bad idea.
If you really wanna be THAT guy and go support Maokai.
Are you west coast? ;_; I can only imagine having sub-50 ping, or a cable mode that does not reset itself any time I try to download a game on Steam or patch a MMO.
No. I've had THAT GUY lose me two promo games. Yes, two times in promos I've had a support Maokai totally crap the bed.
My friend has a ton of success in mid, but recognizes that he isn't always the best choice.
Same. He was one of the champs I first played and I loved him. Granted I built weird shit like lifesteal on him lol.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Big problem with normal drafts lately.
It used to be bought early on Zed because the active worked well with his ultimate. I never checked but with the recent changes to BotRK it might not be worth picking up on Zed anymore.
the end is coming
people used to buy it to use it with his ult but i'm guessing new bjork isn't so good for that
new bt is pretty bad no matter who buys it
Stone Ocean
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BoTRK makes him a better duelist, splitpusher, adds to his burst since it amplifies the damage on his ult and gives him sustain on top of being pretty cheap. Even with the nerfs you should still get it, though Zed is prety much shit overall in the current state of the game.
Orochinagis
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Kayle feels like using a water gun against a volcano.
Stone Ocean
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Good riddance
Tizoc
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Thanks for the feedback. What about Zed atm that makes him not very good?
Still trying to learn how to properly use his shadow/W...
Maybe in the early game, but if she's buffed and has her full set by the end game, she can still wreck shit no?
Still trying to learn how to properly use his shadow/W...
Maybe in the early game, but if she's buffed and has her full set by the end game, she can still wreck shit no?
I'm not in it for doing math, but someone tell me...how quickly can Tibbers be cast between cooldowns? I was playing a match where the other team's Annie was summoning Tibbers sometimes twice in one fight. She would stun/summon and then the fight would play out and then by the end she was summoning him again.
Something felt super off about that, but is there some mix of items that can make it really that short of a cooldown? I'll see if I can kind the match in my history and see the item build.
Something felt super off about that, but is there some mix of items that can make it really that short of a cooldown? I'll see if I can kind the match in my history and see the item build.
With full cdr, she can summon it right back up if tibbers stays alive for the full duration.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Normal Annie (0% CDR): 120 / 100 / 80
Full 40% CDR: 72/60/48 seconds
Tibbers can live for up to 45 seconds
3 seconds between casts
Give it like twenty more pages.
Yeah, that's what was going on then. It's sooooo dumb.
why?
Is that 20 more pages of lol pictures? We gotta keep up the tradition from last OT.
Uh...kill Tibbers then?
He's actually a decent support. Somewhat tanky, some sustain, some decent CC, can brushcheck and harass safe-ish with bulbs. He's not top tier or anything since he's gotta all-in despite having less CC/peel potential than Thresh/Braum/Leona but shouldn't be underestimated.
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