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League of Legends |OT6| My AP Mid Can't Be This Cute
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Lucian range lowered to 500 on PBE in "most unnecessarily severe nerf Riot has ever done".
Some shitty compensatory buffs with it. This was not the direction I wanted them to go with Lucian
Piercing Light ( Q ) mana cost now 50/55/60/65/70 from 60/65/70/75/80
Piercing Light ( Q ) cast range reduced to 500 from 550
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) now reads: "Whenever Lightslinger hits an enemy, Relentless Pursuit's Cooldown is reduced by 1 second ( doubles to 2 seconds against champions " instead of "If Lucian kills an enemy while The Culling is active, the cooldown of Relentless Pursuit is reset."
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) mana cost reduced to 40/30/20/10/0 from 60/45/30/15/0
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) cooldown changed to 16/15/14/13/12 from 18/16/14/12/10
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...and then someone lets Braum through and the other team gets both. GG.
PhillipCostigan
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oh man if I actually did work there I would be already in the process of sending Daniel Klein a strongly worded e-mail.
HmmmmLucian range lowered to 500 on PBE in "most unnecessarily severe nerf Riot has ever done".
Some shitty compensatory buffs with it. This was not the direction I wanted them to go with Lucian
Piercing Light ( Q ) mana cost now 50/55/60/65/70 from 60/65/70/75/80
Piercing Light ( Q ) cast range reduced to 500 from 550
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) now reads: "Whenever Lightslinger hits an enemy, Relentless Pursuit's Cooldown is reduced by 1 second ( doubles to 2 seconds against champions " instead of "If Lucian kills an enemy while The Culling is active, the cooldown of Relentless Pursuit is reset."
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) mana cost reduced to 40/30/20/10/0 from 60/45/30/15/0
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) cooldown changed to 16/15/14/13/12 from 18/16/14/12/10
Ghost is Bad
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better than literally seeing lucian in every game.
PhillipCostigan
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having a champion be awful and never seen is in no way better than seeing it every game.
Come on now.
Come on now.
One thing you can try is using E on yourself, then attacking an enemy, then landing Q on them while they are slowed.
Your ADC will be ignoring you and will not attack the person who is bubbled, so you just wasted two spells for some minimal harass, but in THEORY it's a good idea.
It's more than a hobby, it's an art form. Sue me for being happy after losing my last 5 games.
True damage should be banned
that's not what olaf'ing means
PhillipCostigan
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they're sure doing their best to olaf him.
Jazzy Network
Member
I'm back bitches. Time to feed.
I'm not sure how the buffs help him even. Is this so that Lucian can theoretically go IE first? Who cares, his range is nerfypoop and he'll need the abilility to sustain from triforce anyway.Lucian range lowered to 500 on PBE in "most unnecessarily severe nerf Riot has ever done".
Some shitty compensatory buffs with it. This was not the direction I wanted them to go with Lucian
Piercing Light ( Q ) mana cost now 50/55/60/65/70 from 60/65/70/75/80
Piercing Light ( Q ) cast range reduced to 500 from 550
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) now reads: "Whenever Lightslinger hits an enemy, Relentless Pursuit's Cooldown is reduced by 1 second ( doubles to 2 seconds against champions " instead of "If Lucian kills an enemy while The Culling is active, the cooldown of Relentless Pursuit is reset."
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) mana cost reduced to 40/30/20/10/0 from 60/45/30/15/0
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) cooldown changed to 16/15/14/13/12 from 18/16/14/12/10
Hughasufhafuahs RIP soccer bro
PhillipCostigan
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he would have the same range as Kog'Maw and Sivir. Both of which have legitimate reasons for such low range.
if you want you could also count Jayce.
I'm not sure how the buffs help him even. Is this so that Lucian can theoretically go IE first? Who cares, his range is nerfypoop and he'll need the abilility to sustain from triforce anyway.
Hughasufhafuahs RIP soccer bro
there is no way Lucian could go an auto attack focused build like IE first with such low range.
Lowering Lucian's range to 500 is something they talked about doing in one of the 4.12 threads, but I'm surprised they actually pulled the trigger on it.
I think he would need some pretty notable ability buffs to have his niche with that range. Maybe they actually make the Culling a worthwhile ultimate?
I think he would need some pretty notable ability buffs to have his niche with that range. Maybe they actually make the Culling a worthwhile ultimate?
More like Urgot'ing, with range like that.
Are these changes meant so that he's more reliant on his E and mobility instead of "Get in range, pop the other guy a few times, E out before any retaliation?"
I don't play Lucian so I'm probably out of the loop
League of meta
Eh, they do both...except for Urgot. But look at Skarner, he just got buffed up nicely and Maoki is getting a nice bump. Not exactly two of the most beloved champs.
PhillipCostigan
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At this stage I'm not against nerfing Lucian. But this was not the way to do it.
Like the Lee nerfs a while ago they went back on. Not super against Lee nerfs, but those were the wrong ways to do it.
Like the Lee nerfs a while ago they went back on. Not super against Lee nerfs, but those were the wrong ways to do it.
Not exactly the best examples to bring up. Players shouldn't have to wait almost two years to get buffs on champions. And both champions in the past were quite popular, still took this long.
PhillipCostigan
Member
yep. Hopefully that's the conclusion they get from the PBE.
Ghost is Bad
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If they wanted to nerf lucian all they had to do was make him less safe in all stages of the game.
Guhnmystro
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Finally figured out why my stream sounds like dirty bootyhole; it was pulling the audio from my webcam as opposed to my headset.
Crab Milk Mickey
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Release state Lucian wasn't bad though, outside of his passive bugging out.
No one wants low range marksmen in bot lane playing ADC.
Yup. Would have a snowball effect on his passive/trading too.
Yup. Would have a snowball effect on his passive/trading too.
Purple Cheeto
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Gotta say, I'm liking the state of jungle right now. Earlier this season I wasn't feeling it because most of my favorite junglers just felt too slow/weak, but I feel like I can make an impact right now with guys like Amumu/Nautilus. I think I'll play a game of Maokai tonight to see where he's at.
I think they tried this philosophy for awhile, but I'm guessing whoever spear headed got fired for being too much like IceFrog. Riot doesn't want leaders or creative thinkers anymore.
I think they tried this philosophy for awhile, but I'm guessing whoever spear headed got fired for being too much like IceFrog. Riot doesn't want leaders or creative thinkers anymore.
There was definitely some feedback but I've heard worse. Glad you figured it out!
buffing other adcs doesn't make any sense, why would you buff an already balanced class because one champion's a problem
i think staggered nerfs always works better, just do a couple minor ones, see how that pans out, rinse and repeat
i'm thinking making him a bit more slippery with a bit less cd on e in exchange for basic stats and slowing down his q thingie might made him a lot more manageable in lane and more prone to get poked out if he doesn't dodge skillshots
i actually really liked their old lee sin nerfs, they were gonna give him more counterplay by giving you a bit of breathing room since he'd have to get some autos off to actually kill you rather than the q lands = you're dead monstrosity that he's now
yea, basically
i think staggered nerfs always works better, just do a couple minor ones, see how that pans out, rinse and repeat
i'm thinking making him a bit more slippery with a bit less cd on e in exchange for basic stats and slowing down his q thingie might made him a lot more manageable in lane and more prone to get poked out if he doesn't dodge skillshots
Stone Ocean
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Don't give me that "unnecessarily severe" shit, he earned every bit of it.Lucian range lowered to 500 on PBE in "most unnecessarily severe nerf Riot has ever done".
Some shitty compensatory buffs with it. This was not the direction I wanted them to go with Lucian
Piercing Light ( Q ) mana cost now 50/55/60/65/70 from 60/65/70/75/80
Piercing Light ( Q ) cast range reduced to 500 from 550
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) now reads: "Whenever Lightslinger hits an enemy, Relentless Pursuit's Cooldown is reduced by 1 second ( doubles to 2 seconds against champions " instead of "If Lucian kills an enemy while The Culling is active, the cooldown of Relentless Pursuit is reset."
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) mana cost reduced to 40/30/20/10/0 from 60/45/30/15/0
Relentless Pursuit ( E ) cooldown changed to 16/15/14/13/12 from 18/16/14/12/10
With the range nerf he gets to keep all of his damage and get more mobility on top of it.
Wolf Akela
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More random Kass backhands. Why
I feel like release Lucian was more balanced. Especially with the Q not auto locking.
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