play viktor more, all his e is rumble ult.
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League of Legends |OT6| My AP Mid Can't Be This Cute
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play viktor more, all his e is rumble ult.
Stone Ocean
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what. thats not your point at all.
ryze didnt force an entire team to deal with him
ryze+morg+sivir + his team behind him forced the enemy team to deal with him
get real zkylon
n if ur ziggs n ryze is running up to you by himself n owning ur shit ur just bad
u have 2 abilities to disengage from his sorry ass.
its ppl like u that we cant have late game champz.
'champions that require more effort to beat than to play as' you know what it takes 0 effort to beat their weak sorry asses early game
idk why u think katarina is on that list tho
anyway, look at this guys. look at how nekofrog doesnt even bother to block the caitlyn ultimate. wtf, worst support ever.
Imperfected
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My support reflexes are interfering with my other reflexes. I just jumped in front of a Cait ult on Yasuo rather than windwalling it, FFS.
Stone Ocean
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Ryze isn't forcing anyone to play around him beyond picks.
Don't pick a melee champ. Don't pick a champ that needs his mobility to do his job. It's not rocket science.
Aside from that he's a mediocre laner with tons of bad match ups. Lategame he can be kited, can't stop a siege for shit without blowing up his ult, and though he gets very tanky he still isn't as tanky as a bruiser. He's not some steamroller that will absolutely cost you the game if left alone.
Don't pick a melee champ. Don't pick a champ that needs his mobility to do his job. It's not rocket science.
Aside from that he's a mediocre laner with tons of bad match ups. Lategame he can be kited, can't stop a siege for shit without blowing up his ult, and though he gets very tanky he still isn't as tanky as a bruiser. He's not some steamroller that will absolutely cost you the game if left alone.
I'm the opposite, my laning reflexes get in the way of my supporting way too often. I could eat that Nidalee spear so my laner doesn't die but I always click away.
Perfect example of why you should never stop autoattacking. The ward hit was also glorious. It was a nice try, I probably would've done the same.
#unsportsmanship
yea generally you would cait ult before the gank
are you playing with friends? i hear that LoL is getting popular in the middle east, whats ur take on dis?
Imperfected
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Yeah, Cait ult is actually pretty bad damage for the cast time compared to just auto-attacking unless you're built full Legolas or something. There's only a very few circumstances where you want to use it when you're in range to be doing autos (generally if the kill's in the bag but it's a target that could potentially escape your range due to being tricksy).
Stone Ocean
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It can be worth holding on to the ult to burst someone down if the opportunity appears, though.
But yeah, most of the time you use it as a homing Nidalee spear.
But yeah, most of the time you use it as a homing Nidalee spear.
Tizoc
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Oh I'm sure its been popular for a long time. Hell my brother studies in UK, has been the past 2 years, he comes to visit during the summer.
When he's in the living room, all I hear is him shouting when playing LoL.
I just get matched randomly, but one of my friends who plays LoL is getting a new laptop so we'll voice chat and play together in a few weeks.
I don't know of any scenes in my country sadly (though I should look into that), but overall, anyone who has a laptop or computer and has an interest in moba is most likely playing this.
Or DotA 2.
anyway, look at this guys. look at how nekofrog doesnt even bother to block the caitlyn ultimate. wtf, worst support ever.
like the vid says
calculated
but for reals, that vid was to illustrate for fucking terrified i was. i mean, i was support ziggs. with no mana. and it was 3v2.
We had khaz standing in a ward and i was coming in to bait a 3v3 but hamma wouldnt wait
Kane Zakharov
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That's how you're supposed to play Graves though, even if I died too much.
Must've meant I wasn't aggressive enough.
It was the frog.
Kane Zakharov
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^ so true. Draven bleed + ignite was the shit. I hate barrier, and it probably would've been a better idea to use ignite when I played Graves.
#givebackthebleed2014
#givebackthebleed2014
Bleed was better than gold, but the gold is still better than like 150% more damage every auto or something stupid like that.
Wolf Akela
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130 total physical damage per attack at Lv1 was BS.
balanced.
Wait, that's how much it was? Damnlol
Stone Ocean
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It was basically a BFSword worth of bleed at level 1
The thought of Draven having that passive in the current state of the game is both awe inspiring and terrifying
If you get the mastery, it turns health pots into biscuits. So buy red pots next time.
Edit: it sounds like you see it on other people, the mastery is I think halfway under the support tree.
Mister Negative
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panth changes on PBE
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/27697-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-3-20-2014-miss
panth getting rekkd?
0.5s stun til lvl 9 and half the ult range all game long.
sounds about right but i think that's the end of panth mid for me. 2k range at level 6 means his ult is pretty useless from mid. i don't get why they didn't increase the cooldown instead of lowering the range :/
even at max rank the range is still pretty shitty and you can't splitpush like you'd do with tf now
can't really talk for how he is right now but before the nerfs ryze was basically another kassadin. probably even stronger since he wasn't as weak in lane.
panth getting rekkd?
0.5s stun til lvl 9 and half the ult range all game long.
sounds about right but i think that's the end of panth mid for me. 2k range at level 6 means his ult is pretty useless from mid. i don't get why they didn't increase the cooldown instead of lowering the range :/
even at max rank the range is still pretty shitty and you can't splitpush like you'd do with tf now
it doesn't take 0 effort to beat them on early game. kassadin was 100% banned for a reason yo. it's not easy, specially now that the game has so many anti-snowball crap. there's only so many times you can kill someone before flash comes back up :I
can't really talk for how he is right now but before the nerfs ryze was basically another kassadin. probably even stronger since he wasn't as weak in lane.
I fully expected the ult range nerf though this seems like overkill. It's now Nocturne levels of crappy. Lower actually. Given the cast time it will hurt Panth a lot.
The stun nerf is appropriate.
Imperfected
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I think it's a bit early to seriously talk about nerfing Wukong. He's not causing enough of a problem at the moment that you can't take a wait-and-see approach with him. It's not like he's making other champions unplayable or completely dictating how team compositions form, he's just sort of a cool monkey dude.
Like if he stays popular and successful then sure, we hurt him because the world is cruel and dark and kids need to know that. I honestly think he's just going to taper off on his own, though, he's not that special.
Like if he stays popular and successful then sure, we hurt him because the world is cruel and dark and kids need to know that. I honestly think he's just going to taper off on his own, though, he's not that special.
Terbinator
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Metal Gear Varus is up.
Back in my day his ultimate was global.
Imperfected
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Back in my day global ultimates were all on stupidly short cooldowns, and we liked it.
No we didn't. Fuck you Shen.
well he's n2 on winrate in lolking which isn't bad per se but it's still a red flag
nah, i don't think anyone will miss him. and like he was pretty broken back when i played him in top too. point and click harass, point and click stun, gives two fucks about turrets and an execute, it was pretty dumb.
make his q a skillshot so i can play him mid again pls
I'm kind of fine with the way they're changing it. It becomes more of an interrupt early levels and actually has a decent duration late game.
You mean GI joe Varus?
I'm buying it
Imperfected
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Yeah, I'm not saying he isn't an issue, just that he isn't some huge Kassadin-like elephant in the room that you need to get a lynch mob going for. He's just a dude who might be pretty good or more level off on his own once people get used to playing against him.
The only thing I really find myself thinking when I see a Wukong in champ select is, "Oh, maybe they're going Yasuo and Sivir? Can we steal one of those picks?"
Stone Ocean
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He's the strongest of all teamfight-oriented junglers right now. He's not much of a problem because his early game is kinda crappy, but once Riot is done nerfing the other top tier junglers there'll be no stopping him.
Stone Ocean
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Implying Wukong's level 6 isn't second only to Vi's.
Stone Ocean
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Definitely, though not sure if this harsh. If those changes go out as is, jungle Panth is back to "fucking around in normals" tier.
Mister Negative
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Riot's definitely trying to tone down early ganking power, what with the Vi changes (which I think are pretty good) and now the changes to the Panth stun.
Panth is very snowbally, so if you fall behind with him it's really, really hard to get back in the game. I guess they want to make it a bit harder for him to get going with early ganks.
Edit: Though with the ult changes, I don't see him being played much at all anymore, at least in the LCS.
PhillipCostigan
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The ult nerf seems kind of absurd.
I'm not a fan of targeted stuns, especially if they're gap closers as well so it makes sense that's being nerfed.
Don't think they should go through with the ult nerf tbh. Makes it worse than Nocturne ult at ranks 2 and 3, and it doesn't have the same utility of visual denial and being targeted that Noc ult does.
I'm not a fan of targeted stuns, especially if they're gap closers as well so it makes sense that's being nerfed.
Don't think they should go through with the ult nerf tbh. Makes it worse than Nocturne ult at ranks 2 and 3, and it doesn't have the same utility of visual denial and being targeted that Noc ult does.
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