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[garath]

I don't know shit about Panth jungle to judge if it's needed to nerf him. So you guys tell me if it's needed or not.

He'll still have his strong dueling potential early game and lots of early game damage. The stun reduction will impact him but not so much. He'll still get ganks off ok.

The ult nerf is HUGE. Changes his dynamic immensely. Used to be able to jungle while keeping an eye on a lane and counter gank like a boss. Now it'll be more Nocturne style where you have to plan your ganks in advance and be right there.

 

[Terbinator]

Spoiler

I'm buying it

So am I. He's currently my

Spoiler

ADC

.

 

[Tizoc]

If you get the mastery, it turns health pots into biscuits. So buy red pots next time.

Edit: it sounds like you see it on other people, the mastery is I think halfway under the support tree.

Aha thanks.

 

[Mister Negative]

So am I. He's currently my

Spoiler

ADC

.

That makes three of us.

 

[Edwardo]

I just bought Arctic Ops Varus. I needed to complete the collection.

 

[Stone Ocean]

The ult nerf is HUGE. Changes his dynamic immensely. Used to be able to jungle while keeping an eye on a lane and counter gank like a boss. Now it'll be more Nocturne style where you have to plan your ganks in advance and be right there.

Yep. The whole reason Panth is being picked in the first place is his global pressure / engage potential. You bait people into hitting your turrets then KAPOW, you fall your team follows up with shit like On The Hunt and everything dies.

 

[AcridMeat]

I just bought Arctic Ops Varus. I needed to complete the collection.

I've been waiting for a Varus skin (a good one) for what feels like forever. I don't even love this one but I bought it anyway because I'm that desperate. He's my favorite ADC and yet I really don't like his default model and was sick of his purple pubes.

 

[Mister Negative]

I've been waiting for a Varus skin (a good one) for what feels like forever. I don't even love this one but I bought it anyway because I'm that desperate. He's my favorite ADC and yet I really don't like his default model and was sick of his purple pubes.

arclight is pretty cool

 

[zkylon]

old pant ult range

new pant ult range

lol

look at that silly tiny minimap circle

 

[Stone Ocean]

I just bought Arctic Ops Varus. I needed to complete the collection.

Don't tell me you bought Cheese puffs Varus

 

[Edwardo]

I've been waiting for a Varus skin (a good one) for what feels like forever. I don't even love this one but I bought it anyway because I'm that desperate. He's my favorite ADC and yet I really don't like his default model and was sick of his purple pubes.

Ya I got Blight Crystal from a friend on my bday last year, and then I ended up getting Arclight in a mystery gift from a friend a few weeks ago. Figured Varus is one of my favorite adc's so I might as well.

 

[Stone Ocean]

new pant ult range

Jesus christ

I have skillshots more global than that

 

[zkylon]

also nami syndra is like 2% more green now

ok

 

[garath]

old pant ult range


new pant ult range


lol

look at that silly tiny minimap circle

There is no possible way they keep that. With the cast time he can walk that distance in that time.

Riot. Why.

edit: I didn't realize the Varus love was so strong here. He's my favorite adc as well. <3

 

[Stone Ocean]

There is no possible way they keep that. With the cast time he can walk that distance in that time.

Riot. Why.

If they keep those numbers they'll decrease jump duration or something. That goes beyond just nerfing lol, that's removing the champ from the game until he gets reworked

 

[dimb]

Honestly the Panth ult changes don't mean much. That's about the maximum range you want to ult from if you're grouped with your team. Hey, maybe it'll even make Pantheon players do less dumb things like diving into teams alone from across the map.

 

[zkylon]

There is no possible way they keep that. With the cast time he can walk that distance in that time.

Riot. Why.

edit: I didn't realize the Varus love was so strong here. He's my favorite adc as well. <3

yup, i'm another varus fan

he kinda reminds me of bowie

 

[Ocho]

God bless the Panth changes. At least I can ward for the eventual bot manjump.

 

[Imperfected]

old pant ult range


new pant ult range


lol

look at that silly tiny minimap circle

No, it's good though. He can almost jump as far as the area of effect from his landing!

 

[Mister Negative]

what damage items does one build on shen if you decide to build damage

black cleaver?

 

[Imperfected]

what damage items does one build on shen if you decide to build damage

black cleaver?

Trinity Force and Ionic Spark were the old split-push Shen damage items, so maybe Static Shiv and BotRK? You could probably still build TF, of course.

 

[zkylon]

you guys just need to rethink pant's combo

instead of ult flash w

you now do ghost tp into a ward ult and w

who needs smite for jungling anywayz

 

[AcridMeat]

arclight is pretty cool

I don't like it.

Ya I got Blight Crystal from a friend on my bday last year, and then I ended up getting Arclight in a mystery gift from a friend a few weeks ago. Figured Varus is one of my favorite adc's so I might as well.

Cheeto Varus. It's so funny how different (bad) the in game model is compared to the splash art for it.

It's nice to finally have a skin for him. Look forward to playing him later, hopefully people actually want to play. Dark Souls 2 has taken many.

 

[Edwardo]

I don't like it.
Cheeto Varus. It's so funny how different (bad) the in game model is compared to the splash art for it.

It's nice to finally have a skin for him. Look forward to playing him later, hopefully people actually want to play. Dark Souls 2 has taken many.

Haha seriously. I cant get any of my friends off of titanfall.

 

[dimb]

what damage items does one build on shen if you decide to build damage

black cleaver?

why would you build that? go botrk or triforce or something.

 

[Mothman91]

old pant ult range


new pant ult range


lol

look at that silly tiny minimap circle

Damn, that's just sad. That range is horrible for competitive play just because they usually have all corners around them warded.

 

[DeadNames]

"Jungle"
*picks trundle*

Vadernooooooo

 

[garath]

"Jungle"
*picks trundle*

Vadernooooooo

Trundle is pretty good in the jungle.

 

[DeadNames]

Trundle is pretty good in the jungle.

I hate them.

IMO he sucks in the jungle, much better top

 

[Imperfected]

He was designed to be a jungler.

So, he's not actually a very good jungler.

 

[Mister Negative]

I hate them.

IMO he sucks in the jungle, much better top

i'll fight you

 

[Dreams-Visions]

old pant ult range


new pant ult range


lol

look at that silly tiny minimap circle

This is in the PBE? No way a nerf of that magnitude makes it into the main game unless they lower the CD.

Also, I liked the Article Ops skin more or less in the PBE. I didn't like the 2 tails. Very unnecessary. Also, I thought the Q arrow looked horrible. Maybe it has been made better in the final.

Lastly, is it just me or does that battle cast Vel skin look kinda terribad?

 

[drawkcaB]

i'll fight you

Let's get crab milk mickey in on this too for the 3v1. Love Trundle jungle.

And holy shit at that panth ult nerf. I knew they'd be hitting it but holy crap. I've always felt the best way to deal with Panth and Nocturne ults was to make them have small base ranges, but the ranges increase X per 30 seconds up to sizeable caps.

This is in the PBE? No way a nerf of that magnitude makes it into the main game unless they lower the CD.

Yeah, they'd do this. Riot isn't a fan of global ults.

He'll still have his strong dueling potential early game and lots of early game damage.

I bet Xin can kick his ass now

C'mon riot! Gimme those Wukong nerfs!

 

[zkylon]

This is in the PBE? No way a nerf of that magnitude makes it into the main game unless they lower the CD.

they lowered the cd at lategame

but really who cares

they should've just increased the cd imo, maybe lower the range slightly

 

[Terbinator]

what damage items does one build on shen if you decide to build damage

black cleaver?

 

[Stone Ocean]

what damage items does one build on shen if you decide to build damage

black cleaver?

Shen does no phisical damage beyond his autos, Cleaver is useless.

Triforce, BoTRK, Wits End or even maybe Iceborn Gauntlet, pick one.

 

[Mister Negative]

to respond to all responses about my shen question i literally dont play shen at all and forgot he dealt magic damage

was just asking because LCS commentators were noting that MIL Kevin was building "full tank" shen as if that was weird

 

[DeadNames]

You guys are crazy. AO Varus looks freakin awesome.

 

[Stone Ocean]

to respond to all responses about my shen question i literally dont play shen at all and forgot he dealt magic damage

was just asking because LCS commentators were noting that MIL Kevin was building "full tank" shen as if that was weird

It's weird for them to say that. Buying damage items on Shen hasn't been much of a thing in a while.

 

[Einbroch]

AO Varus's charged Q may be my favorite spell effect in the entire game.

 

[Stone Ocean]

What's up with all the Kats here in silver?

There's like a billion of them

 

[drawkcaB]

What's up with all the Kats here in silver?

There's like a billion of them

Those deeps, baby. Those deeps.

(Seriously, lots of low rank players value their worth and effect on a team strictly by damage output).

 

[Nev]

You guys are crazy. AO Varus looks freakin awesome.

Indeed. Grenades are stupid though.

Blight Crystal looks good as well, I use it as default (I hate his stupid feet in the default skin) and never was bothered or even thought about this "cheetos" thing you're talking about.

 

[brian!]

woops wrong thing

 

[Type2]

they lowered the cd at lategame

but really who cares

they should've just increased the cd imo, maybe lower the range slightly

The range doesn't bother me but the time it takes to channel with this range does. You now have ward opportunities,reaction time and a measly stun if you manage to get it of.
I can still see early game being okay.

 

[Mothman91]

I love playing Varus but only if the enemy doesn't have lock down champs like Leona/Thresh. I would play him a ton more but if he gets caught, he's fucked unless you got flash.

 

[dimb]

oh yeah, i heard if you are super pro shen you go stattik. i still want to try it.

 

[Ken]

any inhouse streaming going on today?

 

[scy]

(Seriously, lots of low rank players value their worth and effect on a team strictly by damage output).

This is my life motto.

 

[Type2]

any inhouse streaming going on today?

Everyone is afk atm. ill stream if we do end up playing.