Stone Ocean
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40% bonus AD ratio off his ult and he should be pretty weaker pre-lvl 13, it's a start, no need to completely break his legs yet.
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League of Legends |OT6| My AP Mid Can't Be This Cute
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they're removing the one point wonder of his Q and hitting his late game. it's pretty significant.
Primethius
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Not sure what Scarra stepping down will do for Dig but I guess we'll have to wait and see. The entire team is pretty weak from top to bot lane.
It's still not enough. I can't count on two hands how many games I've lost because a Wukong ult-ed into my whole team. That AD scaling was ridiculous.
Nah, he might not get away with maxing E any more.
Stone Ocean
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QT is really good but he can't go crazy with Kiwi like he did with Patoy. They just don't have the synergy for it, it's like when Edward left Gambit, Genja just wasn't the same - regardless of how the team as a whole suffered without Edward's playcalling/making.
Maybe they were taking your farm more than gank philosophy to its logical extreme.
I want to practice against a Yasuo but he always gets banned in inhouses. He just wants to be free!
Even though I said I like to farm more than gank, I still gank and counter gank. I don't just stay in the jungle all game.
You might as well not pick kha zix if you aren't going to take advantage of his early game
Stone Ocean
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If only he didn't have that stupid looking hat
PhillipCostigan
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Stone Ocean
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That login screen is shounen as fuck
This is the greatest thing ever.
Doesn't this fuck over support lulu?
Tizoc
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I died mostly to Wukong, so I could've made an armor piece instead, but I just wanted to make an extra weapon for the heck of it =P
yes, but not as much. you could shield yourself all the time and just play a safe lulu mid, but the opportunities for double q is gone.
Dobkeratops
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today i learned that if your first game of the day is played with bronzies you're going to be placed in potato queue for the rest of the day
guess i had to compensate somehow for winning too hard yesterday, but still.
on other news perhaps it's time to dust off the old rumble because that skin looks amaze
guess i had to compensate somehow for winning too hard yesterday, but still.
on other news perhaps it's time to dust off the old rumble because that skin looks amaze
KiwiLannister
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If you are dying to wukong your positioning was probably poor. A banshees or Ga would be infinitely better. The brutaliser does basically nothing for you there. You have tons of deaths and not many kills in a late game scenario with a strong late game champ so that immediately tells me you are dying too easily.
I really think it's important for the health of the game to have some aoe dmg junglers be viable. I'm on mobile but is scaling removed from his ult or is that an incomplete change?
I think his dmg is a little bonkers on top of the free tank stats he gets from grouping but if they make his first clear any worse he will be gone. I kind of want riot to give the clone abilities a little more utility. Especially wukongs because it doesn't do shit.
Edit: rengar looks broken.
im super sad that lulu cant double Q anymore
but at the same time i know how disgusting it is
:/
im glad the lee sin W nerf went in. damn the haters
but at the same time i know how disgusting it is
:/
im glad the lee sin W nerf went in. damn the haters
dimb is gonna kill u
PhillipCostigan
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Banshee's is a fantastic item though. Why would someone be annoyed at a Banshee's recommendation?
hilariously boring design
Tizoc
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Except it wasn't suggested to aid against Wukong but to aid against Malphite.
Stone Ocean
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Yeah. It'll either just block the damage on his E or block one tick of his ult then you get knocked up right afterwards and die since you got no armor, big whoop
well actually i think if you can block the first tick of wukong ult with a spellshield u wont get knocked up nemore
need to confirm with more sivir players
but either way, wukong can break banshees so goddamn easy, theyre fruitless
I've tried as Sivir and even blocking two ticks, with ult and passive up isn't enough to get away. The ability has such little counter play :/.
Stone Ocean
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The Q change doesn't matter for his clears by itself.
The problem will be if he needs to get more points in it to stay relevant. Then he's fucked
The problem will be if he needs to get more points in it to stay relevant. Then he's fucked
Yeah his current clear is borderline garbage. I think he will Be fine in his role though.
I wish they had a mechanic where he could actually do something with his extended staff if he cost not to auto with his q. The kit is pretty boring and the clone is the worst one in the game.
Terbinator
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Twitch jungle re-rearing its head in normals lol.
Not sure myself but I'd say yeah you would still get knocked up.
Stone Ocean
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Isn't that thread outdated since years ago?
Don't think anyone plays him anymore. Used to be played AP quite a bit, not sure what happened. His AD is scary is shit late game, but no one is every stupid enough to let it come to that.
Stone Ocean
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Sion is awaiting a rework. He can be played as a pretty bad melee carry like Tryndamere or as a gimmicky though kinda viable AP mid.
i doubt they recoded how wukong ult or sivir shield worked
I agree. They didn't go far enough.
There is nothing healthy about Wukong. Loads of free stats both offensive and defensive baked into a kit with low cooldowns, low mana costs, escapes, and engage. Even being an "aoe dmg jungler" he has the potential to outduel pretty much anyone in a one vs. one with the right build. In lane Wukong had to deal with mana management and counter match ups but as a jungler he's just really gross. The nerfs are really nothing. They only took like .1 scaling off each tick of his ultimate. Wukong's first clear is already excellent...so if you feel like it's hard you're probably doing it wrong. Wukong just has everything going for him and there's not much that can stop him outside of a Lee pick. I think Morello was talking about this, but there are certain champions who just have no trade offs or weaknesses for their power. Jungle Wukong is one of those.
Is that that much of a nerf for either? Wukong a ult got a buff and lulu nerf doesn't seem like much. So it doesn't shield a minion...is that it?
its just old design. he had too much to deal with adcs and now there is free mobility in so many champs. im not saying his kit isnt broken I would def like more interaction because im a sucker for monkey king lore and the extendo staff thing couldve been a cooler mechanic. talking about this aoe stuff makes me miss zac.
Wukong's ultimate didn't get a buff, it's a small nerf, the numbers on the original are just wrong on that site. The Lulu nerfs are pretty significant to her damage and utility because Pix doesn't last long enough to hit more than one Glitterlance, and the ability is losing most of its offensive power. Even something like not being able to shield minions is a big deal.
i really wish that rumble skin didn't have that helmet, but still pretty good
also bummed that they backed off on the lee sin nerfs. i was hoping he wouldn't be able to cheese you at level 3 anymore (or 4, or 5 or whatever) but whiners too stronk i guess
pix movement speed nerf being rolled back doesn't sound too good for me either :/
also they rolled back the hp nerf to ziggs too in exchange for a aa range nerf. he probably deserves having both, maybe not as drastic as a 50 hp nerf but going as low as nidalee for sure. so again :/
really wishing rito had stuck to most of what they changed in the earlier pbe patch :/
also bummed that they backed off on the lee sin nerfs. i was hoping he wouldn't be able to cheese you at level 3 anymore (or 4, or 5 or whatever) but whiners too stronk i guess
pix movement speed nerf being rolled back doesn't sound too good for me either :/
also they rolled back the hp nerf to ziggs too in exchange for a aa range nerf. he probably deserves having both, maybe not as drastic as a 50 hp nerf but going as low as nidalee for sure. so again :/
really wishing rito had stuck to most of what they changed in the earlier pbe patch :/
Oh ok I didn't know the numbers were wrong. Hopefully it's not too bad, he's one of my favorite junglers at the moment.
Is the lulu nerf big as support? I'll have to try it out, but seems fine to me. Not enough to make me stop supporting with her.
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