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League of Legends |OT7| She Ezreal To Me, Dammit!
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PhillipCostigan
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yeah. Brutalizer into defensive items.
Why Bruta?
Kotetsu534
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Darien has been tearing up Challenger EUW on Gnar with full tank builds. He runs Armor Pen Marks and Quints, Armor/MR Seals/Glyphs and 21-9-0 masteries. He maxes R>Q>E>W. At most he builds a Brutalizer after his first tank item (usually Sunfire). Seems like you can work off Gnar's base damages successfully with some ArPen.
Builds into ghostblade which is cheap, nice build path, and works great on him. I find the early CDR is essential since sometimes boomerang is your only last hitting option.
PhillipCostigan
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cheap early CDR, armour pen and damage.
I've not tried it myself, it's just what I've seen Gnars doing well with.
Crab Milk Mickey
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As someone who used to play him a fair bit and still likes him, I can't help but raise my eyebrow every time I read "current-day Warwick is scary," especially when he's jungling.
I'm gonna hurl.
Kotetsu534
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Warwick's been top 5 win rate in solo queue for some time. He's a bit lower in Diamond, but still wins in over 53% of his games at that level. I think he's a bit like Amumu, in that if you're not losing by the time you hit 6, you should win, and even if you are, you have some comeback potential with good ults.
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Tizoc
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Heh gotcha I'll follow that build path and try it out =)
Ghostblade. Cleaver isn't bad either, but the active on ghostblade is just too good.
Tizoc
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Mainly I activate it when I turn into Mega Gnar.
BTW on Gnar you buff his W last? So Hop and Q are main abilities to buff.
cheap parts means you always have something to buy when you go 0/3 in lane
Ya you want Q first. Both it and boulder actually do quite a bit of damage... and both are pretty spammable once you get full ranks + some cdr + retrieval.
Hop second because it's your initiate/escape.
W last because % damage does more late game than early and Mega gnars W is his worst ability by far.
You really should use ghost blade in mini form. Really the only time you should use it in mega is if you fucked up an initiation, need to escape, or need to get a last hit in if they run away.
ooh. So Negative.
Everyone said Lucian sucked at release.
Everyone said Yasuo sucked at release.
Here's what will happen with Gnar:
- Low winrate except for one or two standouts (ok, this has already happened)
- Riot will buff (looks that way)
- A pro will bust him out in a tourny and wreck face
- He'll explode in solo queue
- Riot will repeatedly nerf WAY below release level to balance
- He'll still be strong.
You know there have been champions that legitimately sucked at release, got buffed and still suck? Overall what gnar is getting is fairly minor. Only one that might be a bit much is his ultimate scaling.
Well Lucian and Yasuo both kinda did suck on release. It was only after the buffs that they became decent.
Valor to me!
Yep. Don't think Gnar is one of them.
His only failing is being unable to directly control his transformation.
why do people keep trotting out lucian and yasuo
they both DID suck at release. it took bug fixes and buffs to get them anywhere near to where they were at their strongest
NO! Also it won't happen, that's kinda his whole gimmick.
His laning phase is really bad. He's super weak to all ins and he trades poorly.
They both got buffed after release, then repeatedly nerfed. Lucian is tougher to directly compare to release thanks to his "mini rework" but Yasuo is weaker now than he was on release and still "strong".
I don't mean the ability trigger. Just the time.
His strengths don't outweigh this massive negative.
It'd be a bit too OP If you could store it.
There's no way he was weaker than he has on release. Like him resetting flow on ult is a huge buff. Before he would just ult in and get slaughtered.
You'd still be able to farm from range. You'd still be able to take down towers from range.
There are times where being melee is incredibly disadvantageous. You're potentially being punished for farming.
"aw shit, my bar is full. time to only auto for the next however long until my jungler gets here"
what?
Yasuo is arguably WORSE now than he was on release, lol.
I just wish there was a way to build rage faster.
Well when I thought about it it'd be way too OP. People get scared as shit when you're at 100%, you could just sit in the creep line waiting for them to get too close.
Also when I'm in mega form I'm not scared of my opponent, so I don't know why it's disadvantageous. Ya you have to cs at melee range...but they rarely challenge you and if they do you're going to wallop them.
Mega gnar also pushes waves like mad.
Attack speed.
One buff patch. Every other patch since has been nerfs. Reduced flow generation, nerf to statik shiv, nerf to shield duration (halved from release), shield strength reduced, ult range nerf.
The only thing he has better than release is his shield on ult. The rest of his kit has been nerfed over and over.
I think he'll end up a jungler. His chase potential is super high and with the right timing on his transformation, he can lock down someone really well. That timing is the only thing that kills him.
But he can still work as a competitive laner. Just not without help. He'll be a late game champ.
I actually LOL'd.
Yes, yasuo was really strong on release. I was quite surprised when they buffed him, since he was essentially pick or ban in D1 on release.
There were just loads of people that couldn't play him.
Stone Ocean
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Yasuo had a like 33% win rate on release. Took like a week before people figured out Shiv rush made him retarded. Then people figured out E start and it was all ogre
Agreed, but I do think some measure of control is what Gnar really needs. Increasing the time when he transforms into Mega Gnar when an ability isn't used could be nice. I sort of feel like an active/toggle on mini-Gnar that affects rage generation might be something to look into just to see what churns up.
Stone Ocean
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Controlling rage wouldn't be an issue if Mini form wasn't garbage early on.
Do they? I thought that rage was only generated when damaging or being damaged. Throwing out a random Q or E at <100 rage and hitting nothing shouldn't do anything to his rage meter.
Stone Ocean
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What the hell was that Sion even trying to be
Well ya you gotta do damage, but why the hell are you throwing you Q at nothing? Fun fact, alot of champions skills do nothing when they hit nothing.
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