Stone Ocean
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Yeah top lane has like 5 champions now
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League of Legends |OT7| She Ezreal To Me, Dammit!
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Wolf Akela
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I'm still amused that Maokai subverted the "junglers are toplane rejects" trope.
well i dunno, ryze and kayle were both played top lane long before this season so lulu is the only one
same with nidalee and gragas
can't remember when it was but it was his last series
like he had this look when i think they had picked jax for him or something he knew didn't work and didn't want to play, but also after seeing the picks they had given the enemy team
no matter how i feel about clg it was pretty sad to see the poor guy broken up like that
The other team should save some sort of CC so she can't use the goomba jump safely, though. You don't want to all-in while letting Tristana stay out of the fight.
But yes, the reset was what I was asking about -- if the reset is your complaint in that situation, then yes, she can get resets against bad players where other ADC's won't have a reset mechanic.
You have DeadNames agreeing with you, Phillip. Sit and think about that for a while.
I'd like to hear more about this, really. I can imagine a game where they didn't have different power curves, but I actually have trouble envisioning a game where there were early-game and late-game champions but late-game comps weren't a thing.
Full disclosure, I like picking late-game champions because I'm bad at the game but I know attacking is harder than defending. So I'm happy to take the champ that wins in the long run and say to my opponent, "Hey, go ahead and make all the plays you want." But this might just be an elo thing, because taking the initiative is a pretty hard skill and at my level people probably just don't have it.
Wolf Akela
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What were their picks?
I thought it was because he messed up really bad in the previous game which caused them a loss. Not sure if it was this case, but I remember something like it.
i know bladecraft ori is pretty sweet already but way to get me excited for nothing -_-
the problem to me with scaling champions is that they require tons more coordination to shut them down than to make them scale
like you need your jungler to actively camp the shit out of that ryze or nasus or whatever so that they don't take over the game. but if you have ryze in your team it's not like he's gonna get shit in lane and then become absolutely useless. a ryze can easily play safe and even get killed once or twice and still more or less keep up with the game. like you said, it's more work to be aggressive than defensive so allowing for these types of champions is reinforcing a passive style of play that's not conductive for great gameplay
it doesn't help either than most of the lategame scaling champions have pretty bad non-interactive unfun mechanics (say tryndamere, trist, ryze, vlad)
like i said i don't mind different power curves, it's ok for like syndra to have super early game and then fall off or like jinx to be kind of the opposite. this is cos these champions are more or less easier to fuck up at all stages of the game and can be killed at every point of the game, specially if you know how to fight against them. not saying they're super balanced champions or anything but they're a lot less frustrating than like ryze or vayne in this aspect. there's really not much you can do against a lategame ryze or vayne or whatever, your time has passed and you're now in "scavenging for throws" mode.
there's also something to be said for laning instawinners like syndra and i guess in-his-prime-renekton (dunno what he's like now) tho i find that at least their style of play is more aggressive and more risky so i'm a little less against it. but like i used to play tons of top lane pantheon back in the day and that shit felt wrong lol
i can't remember tbh but yeah he hadn't played too well before and they went with a pick that had already failed and the enemy team had a monster comp so he was just crushed like that
it was a mix of things for sure
i will say that it is problematic that trist has long range waveclear on top of everything
camping someone that scales hard isn't the only way to deal with them, it mainly has to do with accelerating the game and there are several options for that
for certain picks it's certainly hard to approach a hyper scaled champ but there are a lot of ways to deal with late champs and the game is definitely not over when they are strong tho it is certainly more bleak
ppl being frustrated at strong late game champs has been around since i was playing
camping someone that scales hard isn't the only way to deal with them, it mainly has to do with accelerating the game and there are several options for that
for certain picks it's certainly hard to approach a hyper scaled champ but there are a lot of ways to deal with late champs and the game is definitely not over when they are strong tho it is certainly more bleak
ppl being frustrated at strong late game champs has been around since i was playing
It's also because the lower elo, the less likely that people wiil take objectives to end the game. They're more likely to chase champions, or farm, or just b after fights instead of taking a tower/inhib/baron when the opportunity is present. So the game lasts longer and the late game champions get stronger and stronger.
and then the same kind of players are also more likely to point fingers at a champ rather than themselves
it's not like the game is completely balanced or something
and yeah ppl like to fuk around and blow steam or whatever
but im prtty sure in the multiple pages of this thread there are no posts asking how to deal w/ tristana and a million pages of posts saying tristana is the bullest shit
it's not like the game is completely balanced or something
and yeah ppl like to fuk around and blow steam or whatever
but im prtty sure in the multiple pages of this thread there are no posts asking how to deal w/ tristana and a million pages of posts saying tristana is the bullest shit
I think whenever I get frustrated with a game I'll just watch some SaltyTeemo and be thankful I haven't seen anything nearly as bad in any of my games yet.
Stone Ocean
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i do appreciate they removed some mascaraFuck Bladecraft, Sewn Chaos now has a goddamned polka dot skirt
Best Ori skin
i think it's gonna be on sale at the end of the month, might go for eet
still think the face looks like ass tho
like how hard was it to make it so she doesn't look like a scary clown :/
also her color is still pretty horrid and her hair's even worse now :/
Stone Ocean
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But that's what makes Sewn Chaos awesome. Other skins can be cute, Sewn Chaos is the japanese slasher movie villain that can make my ticking stop anytime <3
I agree that the ultra pink hair looks weird now that they toned down the colors on her chest a bit, but it's still a fantastic skin for 520 RP
I agree that the ultra pink hair looks weird now that they toned down the colors on her chest a bit, but it's still a fantastic skin for 520 RP
voodoopanda
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As a brand new player, should I worry about the tier 1 & 2 rune things? Or just wait til lvl 20 to buy the best ones? I'm not 100% on how that whole system works yet.
Just save up your IP and buy T3.
Stone Ocean
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Wait till 20 to buy the best ones, but once you do start buying runes there's nothing wrong with getting a few tier 1 runes to fill out your rune pages since they're ultra cheap.
voodoopanda
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Alright, thanks!
That's mostly what I meant by taking initiative.
Like, when people talk about the weakness of Nasus, they don't mention that he can be shut down by the jungler and not scale, because a) that's true of everybody and b) it's actually less true of Nasus than many others. What they talk about is that Nasus means you're in a 4v5 for 20 minutes. But that doesn't matter if the opponent doesn't understand that and force teamfights for objectives in that time.
This is why I think TSM vs C9 game 2 was so interesting. TSM had Lucian into Tristana and they did pressure her a little early -- but what they mostly did was rotate through all three lanes and take all the outer turrets basically in the first 10 minutes. It wasn't about keeping Tristana from farming up -- at pro level, that's probably not something you can really do. But it WAS about taking advantage of her weakness to just directly take control of the map. TSM went ahead and threw a lot of that advantage away, but they at least had a specific plan as to "how you use Lucian to beat Tristana".
Of course that doesn't necessarily negate zkylon's point, because forcing teamfights takes even more coordination than camping a lane. So it still asks a lot of the opponent. But, at the same time, there are plenty of people who say in this thread "don't play lategame champions because your team will throw way before they become relevant." So maybe there are pressures that go both ways.
man i've been watching kill la kill nonstop this week and after seeing what rito did with gurren lagann i'd really go for like a ryuuko thing for like riven or fiora or something
i don't even play those champions but dam that show was awesome
satsuki was a total badass too tho, so ehhh i wish i could have them both
i don't even play those champions but dam that show was awesome
satsuki was a total badass too tho, so ehhh i wish i could have them both
NihonTiger90
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http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1538321831/215026839
Road to 30 is going well so far, gents. 1659 XP to go.
Road to 30 is going well so far, gents. 1659 XP to go.
I have 4 but I don't think my codes are of any interest to you.
It's really a shame that you're not Australian
naiiiice
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Controls take time to get used to and guard/grab are reversed in the demo but overall it's very fun on my 3DS. I had to use the begging thread to get a code since nintendo is stupid and doesn't know how to properly run account systems. No, only Mario, Link, Villager, Pikachu, and Mega Man.
Dead Ocean?
Either Palutena or Little Mac, might even go back to my old main, toon link.
Palutena's air game looks so sweet.
OMG there are DEMO CODES FOR SMASH!?
CAN I HAVE ONE?
Holy shit rammus is easy mode.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1538822934/38876759/eog
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1538822934/38876759/eog
Sent you one.
Dammit why do you have to live in the land down under? Where beer does flow and men chunder.
Cloudius12
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Cloudius12
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Its Koffing!
Its Koffing!
ok so lovelin used to be engaged to someone named lin but that didnt work out so he changed his name to loveling
but his leaguepedia entry just has him as "drug"
http://lol.gamepedia.com/Drug
prtty cool
but his leaguepedia entry just has him as "drug"
http://lol.gamepedia.com/Drug
prtty cool
Wolf Akela
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Is this a recent change? I lost my first game in my promo (again) but I can actually see my current LP instead of being stuck to 100.
Cloudius12
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It's Oriball!
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It's Oriball!
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