I play a really old champion that has been rebalanced but still has ridiculous mana problems.
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League of Legends |OT7| She Ezreal To Me, Dammit!
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SteveWinwood
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it can be re balanced again!
would be interesting if they made more mana refund thingies
i really like that mechanic in dorans rings
yeah that's why i said you buy one item and your problem is gone -_-
don't u people ever read
i really like that mechanic in dorans rings
yeah that's why i said you buy one item and your problem is gone -_-
don't u people ever read
I was not replying to you zkylon, you already got it. not all champs do buy these items for mana though (see adcs).
NCR Redslayer
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See essence reaver.
so, how many adcs are buying it now? It is an option, but essentially noone ever buys it since you need better items (newt excluded)
Yeah, like I enjoy the intended functions of mana, energy, and other resources, but I never felt like Riot truly got a handle on how to balance it all out properly.
I personally dislike blue buff because several champions, particularly mid mages, are balanced around the belief that they will have access to it. Well, turns out that's not a guarantee which led to the need for Athene's which then led to, etc.
I'd much rather Riot re-evaluate the need for either blue and red buff. It would be neat to make it a team wide buff of some sort.
Diprosalic
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smurfers are scum.
NCR Redslayer
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Like 5 but really 4 because no one plays urgot.
There is not anywhere near five ADCs that should be building Essence Reaver.
i dunno i think buffs are actually a really fun mechanic that make a lot of interesting stuff happen. making it a team wide thing removes the element of forcing a jungler to smite it to deny it from the mid laner/adc and also makes it so that something that happens top can turn around a fight on the other side of the map
i don't like that idea at all
i mean i really don't think the athenes rush is too big of an issue but it is an issue and better to fix it now than deal with it later i guess
lol you cray
i can't even think of on adc outside of noot's troll builds that buys essence reaver
not even ezreal or corki or other adcs that should theoretically be all over it
Stone Ocean
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I'm not even sure if Urgot buys that.
Jayce and Blue Ezreal are the only champions that I can think of that might want that thing, and even then I rarely if ever see Jayce players buying that.
There's also Newt but he's a weirdo
Nope, gotta end on it.
Lone_Prodigy
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Are there any charts/stats on when it's better for an ADC to use auto-attacks instead of skills? For example, at what point in itemization/level/etc. is it better for Ashe to just AA instead of using Volley?
So you think there would be less action around an objective that everyone on each team has a stake in obtaining as opposed to an objective that one person will benefit from? You think that if the opportunity arose to deny the opposing team a team-wide buff by smiting the objective, the jungler wouldn't bother?
...it's like saying people don't want to fight over Drag or Baron. I don't get where you're coming from.
Lone_Prodigy said:
A chart? Can't imagine. I've never come across such a thing personally.
Personally, did the skill cause me to stop moving when in a position to receive damage or does the animation interrupt my AA flow when I'm in AA range? Answer yes to either question starting mid-game and I don't use the skill.
Orochinagis
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I still dont know where to use Cait's Q but I rarely use it outside hitting running enemies to their tower
NCR Redslayer
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Well i counted ezreal, corki, lucian, koggy, and urgot. I forgot about jayce.
Newt is his own champ.
i don't think that's chart-able
and i'd say that it always depends on the champion
like caitlyn is gonna want to auto a lot more than lucy
i'm saying we already have baron and dragon for that while buffs are unique in that they only benefit someone
like if you have yasuo mid you can give blue buff to corki or kog for poke. or if enemy mid is anivia you can try and force enemy jungler to smite the blue buff to deny it from anivia. you can also make the decision to who you give the kills so that the buffs can transfer (say blue for mid, red for adc)
you lose all of that and instead get another baron
i don't think that's more interesting at all
It's not really a contest -- you should auto-attack, cancel the post-attack animation with a Volley, and then auto-attack again. Same with Cait's Q, etc.
Ghost is Bad
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no lucian and other caster ads auto just as much as cait.
they have to use abilities between autos to maximize triforce or passive damage. otherwise 50% of their damage is gone.
Oh, you've stopped buying it on Sivir now? Then we can safely say barely anyone buys it
Cait can't do that once she gets a decent attack speed. She will reduce her own damage output.
Essence Reaver if actually fine as is. The problem is that IE is way too good.
I wouldn't want them to change the components.
huh how is that any different from what i said -_-
NCR Redslayer
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Good players always build triforce first 
Oh god he convinced someone to do it.
Stone Ocean
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None of those aside from Blue Ez build it. Corki and Lucian hardly have any mana problems, Kog is too busy getting actual damage to worry about resources, Urgot does not auto enough to justify getting it.
Ghost is Bad
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dont play ad tf.
Don't forget to build Essence Reaver.
And so it has come to pass.
Jesus Christ, how does zkylon has almost as many posts as the next two people combined?
Ferrio said:
IIRC the intent for mana as a resource is that it acts as a significant gate early on, but largely goes away between champion and item stats as the match progresses. Seems like adjustments to mana and not mana regen, or make mana regen exponential would let it keep it's distinction from energy.
Stone Ocean
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NA getting new servers in November
Suck it, EUW
Suck it, EUW
Maybe base mana regen on Max mana, and nix any mana regen items completely?
What. We have had stable servers ever since we got Amsterdam, we have nothing to be jealous of.
Outside of worlds, that is. Huehuehue
Servers still all located on the West Coast. On the bright side, apparently there's a team working on ping issues for East Coast.
I think that would work.
NCR Redslayer
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Ah yeah, America!
Roll out the Bald Eagle Azir skin now Rito.
But will it come close to my 20 ping here in EUW? :"D
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