to be honest I think Void Staff is a more problematic item. DFG is not a necessity. It adds gameplay. Void Staff is just a grossly efficient item that's not every expensive and gives you ridiculous power. There is no reason to ever not build Void Staff.
to be honest I think Void Staff is a more problematic item. DFG is not a necessity. It adds gameplay. Void Staff is just a grossly efficient item that's not every expensive and gives you ridiculous power. There is no reason to ever not build Void Staff.
to be honest I think Void Staff is a more problematic item. DFG is not a necessity. It adds gameplay. Void Staff is just a grossly efficient item that's not every expensive and gives you ridiculous power. There is no reason to ever not build Void Staff.
how does dfg removal = buffs?
i'm sure the designers at riot are capable of coming up with a suitable reworkThey tried reworking it and it didn't work out, this change is long overdue
i mean that applies to all "stats" items. deathcap is the same, last whisper is the same, etc. i dunno if void staff is op, but mandatory items that just give you stats are always boringto be honest I think Void Staff is a more problematic item. DFG is not a necessity. It adds gameplay. Void Staff is just a grossly efficient item that's not every expensive and gives you ridiculous power. There is no reason to ever not build Void Staff.
how does dfg removal = buffs?
Let's remove Last Whisper too!
I have no idea what I'm talking about. It's been forever.
yep, Last Whisper is a problem too. Unless you're an outlier like Corki or Kog'Maw where you do enough magic damage to make it non-essential, it's pretty much essential on every champion. There's no option there.
I think removing items that have an active component that are non-mandatory instead of changing it is a bad move and only homogenises item builds further both in terms of options and in terms of gameplay. We need more actives and less stat sticks.
edit: here's their context post
"basically Leblanc and Ahri are kinda broken with DFG so instead of fixing their gameplay issues we're going to remove an interesting item that is generally healthy on other champions
oh and we're buffing Ahri. Maybe Veigar at some point we don't know."
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I agree actually. I think it's more cool to possibly have an item that offers Armor pen as a short active than something that passively gives it!
let's remove lw from the game so toplane tank meta comes back and games go on forever
The only way DFG would be healthy is if Riot made it function as its supposed to - be an answer to tanks - and somehow make it worthless against squishies, but then whats the point of being a tank if you can get bursted down by 1 guy
It's nothing to do with DFG, it's just Riot's usual "fuck assassins" routine
tbh i dont see the problem with zed
out of all the assassins he's the most easy to deal with. a QSS or a zhonyas practically removes him from the game as an influence, and a tank toplaner with TP will stop his splitpush pretty fast.
or you can just pick vlad mid and ensure that zed never does anything in the game :3
This could work.you could fuse DFG and Void staff. Make it like the magic pen version of Last Whisper. Gives you 60% or 70% bonus magic penetration against a target for x seconds and maybe like 10 flat magic pen outside of it. If the enemy mage is blowing their load on the tank then they're not using it to gib the carry. If they use it to gib the carry they can't stop the tanky bruiser.
There's choice there.
I just hate Zed because of how foolproof he is. Easy last hitting, waveclear, splitpush, etc. Also if you pick Vlad mid you're getting reported.
Kha is the most balanced assassin IMO.
Last Whisper and Void Staff are necessary items in a positive way. They help deal with certain armor or magic resist heavy builds, and the interesting part comes in with when you build them. Certain enemy team comps or even builds will alter the priority of penetration items. These items are not problematic.
DFG is painfully frustrating and assassins are out of control right now. Part of the problem is that there are a number of AP focused items that offer high utility on top of high stat gain. DFG is a primary offender and there is little counter play that exists. Zhonya's is maybe the next biggest offender.
Righteous Glory was a good addition for tanks that provides stats + a strong active, but it rewards offensive play rather than defensive play, which does little to thwart most assassins. Options for building defensively has become increasingly limited.
The problem right now is that most assassins are low risk high reward, and DFG is a major piece of that. It's gross, and even when it's mostly predictable there isn't always much you can do against it. What's worse, the best people for dealing with assassins seem to be other assassins, who all seem to have the mobility or damage negation needed to avoid incoming burst.
Is anyone looking at the game balance right now and nodding their heads to say, "yes, things are in a good place right now?" Riot also really need to look at zone control mages like Azir or Xerath, who have essentially brought back peak Ziggs era stalling with better push/objective control.
IMO Vlad is too easily abused by range, once you go against something like Azir you'll be begging to go back to top lanetry it. vlad mid is actually (in my view) really good. being in a short, straight lane makes his W even more efficient as a disengage instead of a looong top lane. he poops on assassins not named Fizz (and all they have to do is not have Fizz's Q apply damage even if dodged), and is a late game monster.
tl;dr he poops on assassins (but ban fizz), is super safe in a short lane, and offers great late damage.
IMO Vlad is too easily abused by range, once you go against something like Azir you'll be begging to go back to top lane
You are placing a substantial value on Last Whisper and Void Stafff that simply does not exist. If anything the current set of popular picks with loads of mages being run top and squishy junglers roaming around devalues these items even further. These items are nowhere near as efficient as you seem to be imagining. Furthermore, they do not provide a hard counter to armor or magic resistance, they simply dissuade a champion from ignoring health as a statistic for mitigating damage. The fact that you think building LW as a third item is viable or common speaks to the level of inexperience you have with where builds are at right now.Firstly, I really don't think Void and LW are healthy items. They're grossly efficient for their cost and while there is a need for counters to armour and MR heavy builds I don't think crazy efficient stat sticks are a good way to handle that. When you build an item doesn't automatically make it interesting, not to mention the choice is 90% of the scenarios is whether you build the item third or fourth. There's not enough there.
Who do I want next...Irelia or Azir.....Decisions, decisions. Azir seems fun as hell, and can be slightly useful still if behind. Irelia seems strong as hell, but easily countered through item builds (if your opponent in lane is smart).
It's a decent buy on Cass still.Is Liandry's not a good buy on Cass anymore? Going to try to re-learn her.